Loaded Gun Found On Dinosaur attraction at AK

[gueli]

Believe it or not, there are plain clothed undercover sheriffs in each WDW theme park... This incident shall pass... Disney may now have to be more strict with baggage checks... I'm fine with that... If this "responsible" gun owner caused his own demise for his stupidity, I'd probably laugh honestly... Harsh, I know... But hey, I laugh at stupid...

Funny thing is, you are safer in a Six Flags theme park (oh my the WDW fans may have a heart attack I just said that!!!)...

Did 6 flags have an incident in the past with violence? I know 6 flags/great adventure in NJ is a solid place to be...lots of fun for us northerners...

If he caused his own demise wouldn't that be a Darwin award winner (like the guy who played Russian roulette with a semi-automatic, or the poacher who shot a deer on a cliff above him, and the deer fell and took him out...)



I do not think it is necessary for people to have a weapon in a place like Disney (same for any other amusement park). It is not about the second amendment or defending one self.

[waymickey]

Believe it or not, there are plain clothed undercover sheriffs in each WDW theme park... Of course they cannot keep their eyes on everything and everyone but they are already there...

This incident shall pass... Disney may now have to be more strict with baggage checks... I'm fine with that... Just thankful no one was hurt, especially any children.. If this "responsible" gun owner caused his own demise for his stupidity, I'd probably laugh honestly... Harsh, I know... But hey, I laugh at stupid...

Funny thing is, you are safer in a Six Flags theme park (oh my the WDW fans may have a heart attack I just said that!!!)... They not only pat ya down (at least last time I was at my local Six Flags they did), but they also run a hand held metal detector scanner over your body... One trip, I remember, I had to empty my pockets because the security felt my wallet and cell phone... Not a problem, took all of 10 seconds and did not ruin my day...

You are 100% right. My DD works at the local six flags and they have metal dectors at all the entrance gates.. You can not get in until you are clear. Yes they ask you to empty pockets and take off shoes if need be. No one seems to mind and it does not take long at all.

[joonyer]

I hope it doesn't come to having airport like security procedures at Disney Park entrances, but I think Disney can't just do nothing after this incident. The Boston Marathon bombing shows that there are always crazies out there who have an "agenda", whether political or personal, and no place would get one more news coverage and "fame" (infamy) than a Disney Park. As the Boston incident proves, just having children and families present is no deterrent to people with twisted ideas.

[DizneyFreak2002]

True! It wouldn't ruin my day either. If it means increased safety for my family, you better believe I'm in!
But hey, I'm still going to MK on Sunday!

What would ruin my day is some gun totting nut job deciding to use guests as target practice cause those darm COMMIES are coming for their guns!!!!

Did 6 flags have an incident in the past with violence? I know 6 flags/great adventure in NJ is a solid place to be...lots of fun for us northerners...

Honestly, not sure.. Possible they did... They do draw a lot fo teenagers, and let's face it, a lot teenagers think it is cool to act like a thug, and what do thugs do? Act like gang members... It wouldn't shock me to read a past incident... But then again, the current security protocols may have been put in place after 9-11... I really don't know..
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If he caused his own demise wouldn't that be a Darwin award winner (like the guy who played Russian roulette with a semi-automatic, or the poacher who shot a deer on a cliff above him, and the deer fell and took him out...)[quote]

Movie for you to watch regarding this: The Darwin Awards... Funny movie yet so true..

You are 100% right. My DD works at the local six flags and they have metal dectors at all the entrance gates.. You can not get in until you are clear. Yes they ask you to empty pockets and take off shoes if need be. No one seems to mind and it does not take long at all.

Never had to take off my shoes... Actually, never witnessed security doing that to anyone... It actually takes longer for the employee to scan your ticket, or for the machine to, and for the turn style to let you through than the "intrusive" security check...

One thing people always seem to ignore: people scream about increased security and taking away freedoms... Well, 1) you are entering private property as a paid guest, you do not have the ultimate right (freedom) to enter said property... In order to do so you must follow their rules... Don't like it, stay home... 2) increased and "invasive" security is only a problem with people until they or their family members are victims of a crime because of lax security...

If, say, this idiot from yesterday had a death wish and went on a shooting spree killing an innocent person (or several).. and one of the killed was a member of family who loves to scream about increased security taking away liberties and freedoms... How fast would said family run to the media to blame Disney for lax security and sue Disney? They would lawyer up before the body was cold.... Then they would be screaming for increased security...

[ChipNDale79]

Carowinds here in Charlotte if I remember correctly has metal detectors, I honestly wouldn't have a problem with Disney having them if it would keep freaks like this guy out.

[magicofdisney]

I believe they're probably way more concealed firearms in the park than most would want to believe. Disney simply does nothing to prevent them. I also don't think anyone with a CWP is paranoid or stupid for carrying. However, this guy lacked serious common sense. I haven't read the article, but someone mentioned his gun slipped from his pocket? That's straightforward stupidity and it makes the rest of the permit carriers looks as inane.

[Disnamic Duo]

I believe they're probably way more concealed firearms in the park than most would want to believe. Disney simply does nothing to prevent them. I also don't think anyone with a CWP is paranoid or stupid for carrying. However, this guy lacked serious common sense. I haven't read the article, but someone mentioned his gun slipped from his pocket? That's straightforward stupidity and it makes the rest of the permit carriers looks as inane.

Finally a voice of reason... A lot of over reacting going on in my opinion.

[Terra]

What would ruin my day is some gun totting nut job deciding to use guests as target practice cause those darm COMMIES are coming for their guns!!!!

I seriously chuckled out loud at this. My FIL buys into a lot of that!

Finally a voice of reason... A lot of over reacting going on in my opinion.

Meh, if me wanting stronger check points at mass people places makes me over-reacting...I'm good with that. Just call me Miss Paranoid

[Gator]

Our last trip he commented how easily it would be for someone carrying a small firearm to walk through the "no bag" line. Now it makes me wonder just how many people do....

This is what I was wondering. Disney will no doubt ramp up their security checks for bags, but they're not doing anything to check the no-bag line. Walking in with a pistol in your shorts under your shirt would be pretty easy. Instead, we have guards making sure we don't have an uzi in our diaper bags.

As far as this guy goes, I can't say I blame him. Usually the most dangerous places are "no gun" areas. That means some thug knows no one can stop him/her. As for the gun being loaded, what good is a gun if it ain't? As for the comments concerning his "nut job" government-fearing behavior, I'll point you to a movie where the only people who carry guns are from the government. It's call Schindler's List.

[waymickey]

Did 6 flags have an incident in the past with violence? I know 6 flags/great adventure in NJ is a solid place to be...lots of fun for us northerners.

Yes Six Flags Great Adventure did have a Gun incident in the past. A gun was found in a womens bathroom. The gun got in from a season ticket holder entrance that did not have metal detectors.
The ticket entrance was closed and now everyone goes through the metal detector even employees.

I see no problem with having some added security. I would not mind taking a few extra minutes to be safe in the parks.

[disneypastor]

I believe they're probably way more concealed firearms in the park than most would want to believe. Disney simply does nothing to prevent them. I also don't think anyone with a CWP is paranoid or stupid for carrying. However, this guy lacked serious common sense. I haven't read the article, but someone mentioned his gun slipped from his pocket? That's straightforward stupidity and it makes the rest of the permit carriers looks as inane.

Thank you for being the voice of reason.
Apparently this guy didn't have his handgun holstered properly.....although a .380 is meant to carry in-pocket, there are plenty of non-slip pocket holsters that would've kept it from coming out of his pocket.

[DizneyFreak2002]

Thank you for being the voice of reason.
Apparently this guy didn't have his handgun holstered properly.....although a .380 is meant to carry in-pocket, there are plenty of non-slip pocket holsters that would've kept it from coming out of his pocket.

Doesn't matter if it was holstered properly or not... And apparently, it was only in his pocklet.. Carrying a weapon, even concealed, is against Disney park policy...

[disneypastor]

..... a RESPONSIBLE gun owner would 1) not carry it into a theme park full of kids, or 2) had it holstered properly, not just in his pocket...

From an earlier post of yours.

I realize it is against Disney policy....I was simply referring to how it could have come out of his pocket.

And you have made it quite clear as to how you feel about gun owners in earlier posts.

[DizneyFreak2002]

From an earlier post of yours.

I realize it is against Disney policy....I was simply referring to how it could have come out of his pocket.

And you have made it quite clear as to how you feel about gun owners in earlier posts.

Doesn't change the fact this guy was an idiot... I'm sure there are plenty of RESPONSIBLE people holstering their gun properly while in a WDW theme park despite it being against park policy... I still feel that you have to have a problem to feel the need to carry your gun into a theme park full of kids... Sorry, that's how I feel... Protect your home? Fine.. No issue what so ever... Feel the need to have to carry it every where you go? Yea, sorry, I don't agree and feel most of those people are 'fraid da guvernment gunna git 'em...

[TheDuckRocks]

Disclaimer - I really know nothing about guns, except for what I see on TV or read about.
The thing about this I simply can not get my mind around are the hollow point bullets. To me that just seems like someone who has taken his own safety way overboard, if that really was his intent. But for all I know that could well be what everyone is using now.

[SurferStitch]

I believe they're probably way more concealed firearms in the park than most would want to believe. Disney simply does nothing to prevent them. I also don't think anyone with a CWP is paranoid or stupid for carrying. However, this guy lacked serious common sense. I haven't read the article, but someone mentioned his gun slipped from his pocket? That's straightforward stupidity and it makes the rest of the permit carriers looks as inane.

I totally agree with you.

DH and I have CWP's, and carry, and we are not paranoid or stupid. We also have zero fear of the government coming to "git" us. In fact, we don't really fear anything!

And no... we don't carry them into the parks.

[Dulcee]

Disclaimer - I really know nothing about guns, except for what I see on TV or read about.
The thing about this I simply can not get my mind around are the hollow point bullets. To me that just seems like someone who has taken his own safety way overboard, if that really was his intent. But for all I know that could well be what everyone is using now.

They are illegal in NJ unless you are in law enforcement. Other states do not have as strict regulations regarding them.

[coopers431]

I don't post much on this site but I felt I had to respond to this post. I am a CCW holder as well and carry every where I LEGALLY can and no I am not afraid the government is out to get me. It is to protect my self and my family. I would never dream of carrying in a crowded amusement park when there are already incredible safety measures in place especially Disney. I believe this man was extremely irresponsible and should have lost his CCW permit. As to hollow points being more dangerous it is actually quite the opposite. They expand so that they would not penetrate and possibly hit an innocent bystander (as gruesome as this sounds).

[Elias1901]

They are illegal in NJ unless you are in law enforcement. Other states do not have as strict regulations regarding them.

In Canada, this guy would've been tossed in the clink the second he was found. We don't allow people to play the "Ohhh, you didn't know this isn't allowed?" card at any point in time. It is so weird to see how different places have different laws. Around here, carrying a gun on your person (unless you're an officer of the law) has people assuming you're a bad person out to cause trouble.

[magicofdisney]

Around here, carrying a gun on your person (unless you're an officer of the law) has people assuming you're a bad person out to cause trouble.

Yep, that's way different than what legal carriers around here believe.