Hyperion Wharf is... CANCELLED!!!

[DizneyFreak2002]

Save Pleasure island blog has an article up yesterday saying Disney has cancelled Hyperion Wharf, or as I liked to called it, Hyperion Whiff...

I, for one, am glad it is cancelled as this was a giant whiff... But then again, I expect nothing less from this management team... Only question is, will they actually plan for something better in Pleasure Island???

[DizneyRox]

Kind of explains the lack of activity happening over there.

[BrerGnat]

Not surprising.

Maybe they listen to the WDW fan community after all.

I don't recall many of us jumping for joy over this project.

[DizneyFreak2002]

Not surprising.

Maybe they listen to the WDW fan community after all.

I don't recall many of us jumping for joy over this project.

Funny thing is, their excuse: too much like BoardWalk and the vendors and restaurants were complaining...

The only ones who cheered Hyperion Wharf were, well, read my posts in the xPass thread and you'll see who I mean...

[Mfarquar]

This is great news! They definitely need more nighttime entertainment down there. Something for the adults, even if it's self-contained, IMO. Raglan Road is cool, but not super unique to what is available at home on the weekends. Would LOVE something new and innovative.

[ronandjulie]

This is great news! They definitely need more nighttime entertainment down there. Something for the adults, even if it's self-contained, IMO. Raglan Road is cool, but not super unique to what is available at home on the weekends. Would LOVE something new and innovative.

They already had a self-contained place with nighttime entertainment. It was called Pleasure Island. It worked, then it failed. I highly doubt they will do it again.

[Polynesian Dweller]

Not exactly official announcement on that site just 'sources tell us'. Given the bias of that site and the number of times they've reported the AC returning I'll wait for an official announcement. Read the statement on that site and you can see its still just speculation right now.

[DizneyFreak2002]

They already had a self-contained place with nighttime entertainment. It was called Pleasure Island. It worked, then it failed. I highly doubt they will do it again.

it failed because TDO wanted it to fail... They wanted out of the night life entertainment business... They also thought they would do better charging triple the rent prices and getting 3rd party vendors.. Talk about fail.. LOL...

[DizneyFreak2002]

Not exactly official announcement on that site just 'sources tell us'. Given the bias of that site and the number of times they've reported the AC returning I'll wait for an official announcement. Read the statement on that site and you can see its still just speculation right now.

All construction/demolition planned for Hyperion Whiff has been stopped... Tom Staggs himself has even said they are working on new plans for Pleasure Island, and not once did he refer to it as Hyperion Wharf... I think it is safe to assume it is DOA...

[Mfarquar]

They already had a self-contained place with nighttime entertainment. It was called Pleasure Island. It worked, then it failed. I highly doubt they will do it again.

Perhaps I should have used a term clearer or more specific than "self-contained". By "self-contained" I meant another nightime entertainment venue. Not necessarily an entire complex comprised of multiple attractions only for adults.

Disney has other self-contained venues onsite, such as the Atlantic Dance Hall, Jelly Rolls, singular bars at every one of their hotels (some more elaborate than others) and the aforementioned Raglan Road.

As an adult couple under 35 without kids, the Disney offerings are less than appealing. If the parks close early during the off-season when we frequently busy, there's little for us to do. Now we go to City Walk.

Also, totally agree with DisneyFreak2002 - they wanted it to fail. They wanted to reduce overhead and any PR issues. They thought stores will be a safe bed with a maximum return. Their self-owned/run clubs included expensive talent. It was the cheaper way to go, assuming the stores brought in could stay in business. We all saw how that worked out..

[DizneyFreak2002]

Perhaps I should have used a term clearer or more specific than "self-contained". By "self-contained" I meant another nightime entertainment venue. Not necessarily an entire complex comprised of multiple attractions only for adults.

Disney has other self-contained venues onsite, such as the Atlantic Dance Hall, Jelly Rolls, singular bars at every one of their hotels (some more elaborate than others) and the aforementioned Raglan Road.

As an adult couple under 35 without kids, the Disney offerings are less than appealing. If the parks close early during the off-season when we frequently busy, there's little for us to do. Now we go to City Walk.

Also, totally agree with DisneyFreak2002 - they wanted it to fail. They wanted to reduce overhead and any PR issues. They thought stores will be a safe bed with a maximum return. Their self-owned/run clubs included expensive talent. It was the cheaper way to go, assuming the stores brought in could stay in business. We all saw how that worked out..

I believe that was what they wanted Flamingo Crossing (I think that was the name of it) to be... That waste of cleared out space over by Coronado that is another major failure on Disney's part... again, relying on third parties and it tanked... Now, there is nothing... And no plans....

[Polynesian Dweller]

All construction/demolition planned for Hyperion Whiff has been stopped... Tom Staggs himself has even said they are working on new plans for Pleasure Island, and not once did he refer to it as Hyperion Wharf... I think it is safe to assume it is DOA...

Yeah, I know that. It's just I don't take that Saving... site and it's comments as proof positive.I too think its dead as initially described but Staggs comments made me think that the area is going to be redeveloped not returned to anything like its previous statu.

[minnie-mouse]

That' s a bummer. I was looking forward to something new over there.

[goofygirl67]

As long as they don't keep trying to make it a strip mall. I now just walk around PI, there is nothing for me to go to anymore.

[Fastpasssteve]

I remember when all the clubs were going at full tilt. Fun energy and lots of music.

I guess it's just a little sad now. Perhaps it might have been more successful and less frightening for Disney if Pleasure Island hadn't been in between the shopping district and the end where Cirque de Soleil is. Parents with kids had to pass through PI to get to the other side.

[SurferStitch]

I remember when all the clubs were going at full tilt. Fun energy and lots of music.

I guess it's just a little sad now. Perhaps it might have been more successful and less frightening for Disney if Pleasure Island hadn't been in between the shopping district and the end where Cirque de Soleil is. Parents with kids had to pass through PI to get to the other side.

Just bring back the Adventurer's Club and be done with it!!!

Actually, when PI was in its hayday, you couldn't just pass through to get from Marketplace to West Side. You had to pay to just get in the gate to PI. That's when PI was at its best. It was very simple to just take the walkway along the outside of PI to get across.

[Poohluv85]

Just bring back the Adventurer's Club and be done with it!!!

Ditto!!!! Kungaloosh!!

[sagitarius]

Just bring back the Adventurer's Club and be done with it!!!

Agreed!!
Kungaloosh!!!!!

[MrPeetrie]

I'm sorry to sound ignorant, but we haven't been there since 2001. Is Pleasure Island closed? What is Hyperion Wharf? Was that going to be the new name of Pleasure Island?

When we were last there, they had a dance club (with a rotating floor) that was one of the nation's best-rated dance clubs. Is that gone? Is the comedy club gone?

Wow! You have kids and you miss everything!

[Scar]

Is Pleasure Island closed? What is Hyperion Wharf? Was that going to be the new name of Pleasure Island?

Pleasure Island is, for all intents and purposes, closed. there are still some stores, but no clubs. Hyperion Wharf was supposed to be the new Pleasure Island, with just more stores and restaurants. Hopefully the lack of activity will convince Disney to do something great with this real estate, but I'm not holding my breath.