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Originally Posted by princessimagineer
now, how do you properly pronounce mitsukoshi teppanyaki?
Mitsukoshi teppanyaki or phonetically
Mi-t'sue-ko-she tep-an-ya-ki
I've got a decent Japanese background - my father lived there for 3 years and I've been taking classes for 3 years. It's pretty much the way it reads, just keep your vowels generally short, (although the "o" in this work is more like a long o) and equal emphasis on each syllable. Females would speak it softer than a male (harsher voiced) - kinda hard to explain difference in gender speach pattern stuff without a long explaination - or at least that's what my teacher (sensei) said.
i - like the i in itch
u - like the sound ew
o - like o in go
e - like e in egg
a - like a in an
tsu - no true English equivalent, but we all know the Japanese word tsunami, don't "pop" the "t" sound, say it very softly.
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Originally Posted by princessimagineer
i hate it when people butcher pronunciations, so thank you for clarifying this for me. now, how do you properly pronounce mitsukoshi teppanyaki?
me-sue-ko-she te-pan-ya-key.
The te- and the -ppan are actually seperate letters, so I believe that to say Tep- and -an would be incorrect because the emphasis is on the wrong letters.
I've taken it for 2 years. Sadly, I also took French for 4 years and I can barely get past 'Hello, how are you' and 'My name is'
And I believe, as other have said it, the -r should be silent. Lue cell-e-a is how I say it, based on what I remember from class.
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Originally Posted by ElenitaB
While that "restaurant in Canada" is possibly the EASIEST pronunciation for all concerned, you're really close on the phonetic spelling for Americans. I would transcribe it as:
Lu* Sell-ee-a** Emphasis on the bolded syllable
*Not like "Lou" but instead like the beginning of lunge
**Like the letter "a"
Or at least that's how I'd Americanize it (without mangling it), after far too many years of French in high school, college and grad school.
Polynesian Dweller, does that pass muster?
Almost..... It should be pronounced
Luh Sell-ee-ay ... or the Outback. That's hilarious!
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Originally Posted by CaptainJessicaSparrow
me-sue-ko-she te-pan-ya-key.
The te- and the -ppan are actually seperate letters, so I believe that to say Tep- and -an would be incorrect because the emphasis is on the wrong letters.
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Captain Jessica Sparrow, you are right about the te-pan, I looked it up in the dictionary. There goes my Jersey accent getting in the way again!
Main Entry: tep·pan·ya·ki
Pronunciation: \ˌte-pän-ˈyä-kē\
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Sell-yay is fine, but please, please, please can we start a movement here in the US to ban the pronunciation of "le" as "lay"? I hear it more often than the correct pronunciation. "Les"- the plural form of both "le" and "la" is pronounced "lay," unless it is followed by a word starting with a vowel. Then the "s" sound is added... This is a lost cause isn't it!
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Originally Posted by ILoveLegos
Captain Jessica Sparrow, you are right about the te-pan, I looked it up in the dictionary. There goes my Jersey accent getting in the way again!
Main Entry: tep·pan·ya·ki
Pronunciation: \ˌte-pän-ˈyä-kē\
Too bad the dictionary still has it wrong as far as the main entry.
The letters are
てっぱんやき
te -(small tsu)*-pa-n-ya-ki
*=when there is a small or subscripted tsu character, it denotes that the character immediately follows would be held for a brief second, as if pausing before saying that character. The small tsu is silent and not spoken. Hence the -pa becomes -ppa. And since -n is never used by itself because it has no pronunciation of it's own, it is always added as the last sound to the letter than precedes it. So, when combining -っぱん, it will become -ppan when written in romanji and for pronunciation.
If that makes sense.
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Originally Posted by CaptainJessicaSparrow
Too bad the dictionary still has it wrong as far as the main entry.
The letters are
てっぱんやき
te -(small tsu)*-pa-n-ya-ki
*=when there is a small or subscripted tsu character, it denotes that the character immediately follows would be held for a brief second, as if pausing before saying that character. The small tsu is silent and not spoken. Hence the -pa becomes -ppa. And since -n is never used by itself because it has no pronunciation of it's own, it is always added as the last sound to the letter than precedes it. So, when combining -っぱん, it will become -ppan when written in romanji and for pronunciation.
If that makes sense.
The explaination makes sense, thank-you. I've had the conversation with a native speaking friend too, although not a teacher. He laughed and said he still understands me with my Jersey accent. I'm trying to get rid of that of course!
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Originally Posted by Goes4FastPass
"Luh cell YAY"
or based on the food,
"Outback"
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Originally Posted by ILoveLegos
The explaination makes sense, thank-you. I've had the conversation with a native speaking friend too, although not a teacher. He laughed and said he still understands me with my Jersey accent. I'm trying to get rid of that of course!
I work with a few girls who speak Japanese and they've been helping me. Thankfully, I don't have much of an accent even though I'm from the South.
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straight from my french candian wife's keyboard
phonetic pronunciation is "leh sell-ee-yay"
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We just translate it and say "The Cellar"
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Originally Posted by ElenitaB
Lu* Sell-ee-a** Emphasis on the bolded syllable
*Not like "Lou" but instead like the beginning of lunge
**Like the letter "a"
Actually, Le is pronounced more like LOOK, but without the K. Provided you don't pronounce LOOK like LUKE.
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Le vi OH sa, not Le vi o SAH.
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Originally Posted by Natazu
Le vi OH sa, not Le vi o SAH.
LOL - that cracked me up :-)
As for the original question - for what it's worth I'm Canadian and lived in Montreal for some time - it is roughly "Le Sell-Yay" It would need an e on the end to be Le Sell-Yaire...without one, the r is silent.
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We pronounce it Le Cell E A
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Originally Posted by ElenitaB
While that "restaurant in Canada" is possibly the EASIEST pronunciation for all concerned, you're really close on the phonetic spelling for Americans. I would transcribe it as:
Lu* Sell-ee-a** Emphasis on the bolded syllable
*Not like "Lou" but instead like the beginning of lunge
**Like the letter "a"
Or at least that's how I'd Americanize it (without mangling it), after far too many years of French in high school, college and grad school.
Polynesian Dweller, does that pass muster?
That sounds pretty much how the very polite CM repeated it back when I may my ADR request is south Mississippian for LUH SELLER
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