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Originally Posted by Cinderelley
I think this is what is going to happen, except I don't believe an employee will come over and them to stop smoking. They don't seem to intervene much with the people who have had too much to drink.
From my experience of being in the parks with smokers, they absolutely will intervene when the smoker isn't in the designated area. I guess it depends on who's working that day. *♀️
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Originally Posted by Cinderelley
I think this is what is going to happen, except I don't believe an employee will come over and them to stop smoking. They don't seem to intervene much with the people who have had too much to drink.
Originally Posted by magicofdisney
From my experience of being in the parks with smokers, they absolutely will intervene when the smoker isn't in the designated area. I guess it depends on who's working that day. ����*♀️
It has been my experience that it is hit and miss. I have witnessed a couple of times where an employee approached someone smoking outside of a smoking area and told them they had to go to the smoking area. Typically what happens is the smoker just says okay and then proceeds to take a couple of long last draws on the cigarette pretty much finishing it and then throws it on the ground and steps on it. In my opinion, this is about how the enforcement will probably go. I mean, how many other rules do they have that they don't actually enforce? And would they really throw someone out of the park for smoking? I doubt it.
Another thing that I don't even think Disney is thinking about is the fact that other countries and parts of the world don't frown on smoking like is the thing to do here in the US. I have seen parents sitting in the smoking section with their kids that appeared to be around age 13 or 14 who was also smoking before. They were speaking other languages so I was pretty sure they were from other countries. What is Disney going to do when they are ticking foreign guests off who are not accustomed to smoking bans in public? This looks more like another example of agenda pushing to me.
I am not advocating for smoking. I am just saying, with so many smokers visiting the parks, why do you want to be picking fights with them all day long every day? Just give them smoking areas or even better, build smoking lounges with air filtration that exhausts out the top of the building and don't worry about it.
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Originally Posted by 1DisneyNut
I am not advocating for smoking. I am just saying, with so many smokers visiting the parks, why do you want to be picking fights with them all day long every day? Just give them smoking areas or even better, build smoking lounges with air filtration that exhausts out the top of the building and don't worry about it.
I would love an indoor smoking lounge. However, probably a florida law anyway against it. Places where smoking bans have occurred (indoors) will usually only allow it in tobacco shops, maybe some bars, etc. Though Disney might could probably figure out a way (like you can smoke cigars at Sosas).
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Originally Posted by texas211
I would love an indoor smoking lounge. However, probably a florida law anyway against it. Places where smoking bans have occurred (indoors) will usually only allow it in tobacco shops, maybe some bars, etc. Though Disney might could probably figure out a way (like you can smoke cigars at Sosas).
I like the way the one casino here does it (MD Live!) -- They have a smoking lounge that has an open 'back' to allow the smoke to drift (with the help of some decent sized fans) outside and away from the room. They also have a entry 'tunnel' with doors at each end and fans to 'freshen' the people coming out of the lounge into the main casino. It keeps the main casino smoke-free and takes some of the reek off the patrons.
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Originally Posted by PopPhan
I like the way the one casino here does it (MD Live!) -- They have a smoking lounge that has an open 'back' to allow the smoke to drift (with the help of some decent sized fans) outside and away from the room. They also have a entry 'tunnel' with doors at each end and fans to 'freshen' the people coming out of the lounge into the main casino. It keeps the main casino smoke-free and takes some of the reek off the patrons.
Is that in Maryland?
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Yes it is. Hanover MD, across (literally) from Arundel Mills Mall. About 10 miles from Columbia, MD. Even less from BWI airport.
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Originally Posted by 1DisneyNut
Another thing that I don't even think Disney is thinking about is the fact that other countries and parts of the world don't frown on smoking like is the thing to do here in the US. I have seen parents sitting in the smoking section with their kids that appeared to be around age 13 or 14 who was also smoking before. They were speaking other languages so I was pretty sure they were from other countries. What is Disney going to do when they are ticking foreign guests off who are not accustomed to smoking bans in public? This looks more like another example of agenda pushing to me.
You might be surprised how much stricter the smoking bans are in the rest of the world--the U.S. actually lags behind in this, since there is no national legislation and the federal/state governments leave it up to local municipalities to decide. If there is a foreign guest at WDW that gets ticked off because they can't smoke, it might be because they enjoyed coming to a place that still provided a smoking area in public places, whereas their home country does not.
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Originally Posted by MNNHFLTX
You might be surprised how much stricter the smoking bans are in the rest of the world--the U.S. actually lags behind in this, since there is no national legislation and the federal/state governments leave it up to local municipalities to decide. If there is a foreign guest at WDW that gets ticked off because they can't smoke, it might be because they enjoyed coming to a place that still provided a smoking area in public places, whereas their home country does not.
I am not so sure I agree with your assessment. From everything I have read the past couple of years, the U.S. is now low on the list of percentage of smokers. Many of the European countries are high on the list like Luxembourg, Belgium, Greece, Hungary, Austria, etc. I have literally witnessed a Greek family smoking in one of the smoking areas including their son who appeared to be around age 13 or 14. From what I read recently smoking is typically permitted in public spaces and what smoking bans are in place are pretty much ignored and rarely enforced. So it really depends on the country but most European countries along with China and some others still have a high smoking rate.
I don't know how the ban will turn out and it will be interesting to see. I just think there is going to be a good bit of people ignoring the ban and trying to slip around and smoke and dismissing the CM's when they say something.
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Originally Posted by 1DisneyNut
I am not so sure I agree with your assessment. From everything I have read the past couple of years, the U.S. is now low on the list of percentage of smokers. Many of the European countries are high on the list like Luxembourg, Belgium, Greece, Hungary, Austria, etc. I have literally witnessed a Greek family smoking in one of the smoking areas including their son who appeared to be around age 13 or 14. From what I read recently smoking is typically permitted in public spaces and what smoking bans are in place are pretty much ignored and rarely enforced. So it really depends on the country but most European countries along with China and some others still have a high smoking rate.
I speak from personal experience, for Europe anyway, that national smoking bans are very prevalent in most European countries. In some cases this means stepping outside to be able to smoke and in other cases it's banned outright in all public places. Do people still smoke? Of course, the same as they do here in the States. But more people are doing it in the privacy of their home and vehicle now.
I don't doubt your statement about China having high smoking rate, but there have been some national restrictions put into place to try and curb public smoking in China also. My point is that the U.S. is not the only country where smoking in public is discouraged, if not by the government than by businesses like Disney.
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