Hyperion Wharf is... CANCELLED!!!

[MrPeetrie]

Ok. Thanks.

[BrerSchultzy]

Honestly, my hunch is that they won't be doing anything. I don't think they've "gone back to the drawing board"... I think they just don't care enough.
I'm a little surprised they haven't crammed a medieval times or something there...that seems more like what this group of management types want.

[LudwigVonDrake]

They should go back to the way it was but that's not happening. It's a ghost town when you walk through there. Hopefully someday soon Disney will come up with a feasible plan and put the area to good use.

[snowdog63]

We were there in November of 2010,and it didn't do anything for me. One cast member told me it was to be more "family friendly". I sent a nasty gram to someone at Disney about this and told them they made a mistake. They just sent all their business down the road to City Walk. Everything at Disney is family friendly,most of us adults liked it the way it was. My wife and I celebrated our honeymoon there in '05,got to set off the fireworks,went to the Adventurerers Club,hung out at 8 trax. Maybe they woke up and smelled the coffee. I won't hold my breath.

[DisneyOtaku]

Now that I'm older, I'm very sad that the clubs are gone I had heard that they wanted to make the area more kid friendly and kick out some of the trouble makers that hung out there (how much trouble, or if there was any, I don't know). Couldn't they keep the comedy clubs and open up some dance clubs that were....I don't know? Less "troublesome?" Though I never thought the other ones were troublesome in the first place...

[BrerSchultzy]

Now that I'm older, I'm very sad that the clubs are gone I had heard that they wanted to make the area more kid friendly and kick out some of the trouble makers that hung out there (how much trouble, or if there was any, I don't know). Couldn't they keep the comedy clubs and open up some dance clubs that were....I don't know? Less "troublesome?" Though I never thought the other ones were troublesome in the first place...

Back to the OPs point of TDO wanting it to fail....I always found it suspicious that if something criminal happened in the parks or resorts, it would be hushed up. But if something happened at PI, it always seemed to make the news. I was in WDW when someone tried to rob one of the All-Star resorts, and there was nothing on the news. But some kid mugs somebody on PI, and it's national news. I never felt comfortable about that, and thinking that TDO wanted PI to fail just helps all that make sense.

[MyPastelHeart]

Well that's disappointing news for some of us

[sportsguy2315]

Now that I'm older, I'm very sad that the clubs are gone I had heard that they wanted to make the area more kid friendly and kick out some of the trouble makers that hung out there (how much trouble, or if there was any, I don't know). Couldn't they keep the comedy clubs and open up some dance clubs that were....I don't know? Less "troublesome?" Though I never thought the other ones were troublesome in the first place...

Or just have an improv place that's family friendly. I'd go to that. I think the challenge (bad economy aside) is that TDO wants to make DTD as family friendly as possible. I'd suggest maybe a family friendly improv club, but a step up from Monsters Inc.?

[valjane]

Or just have an improv place that's family friendly. I'd go to that. I think the challenge (bad economy aside) is that TDO wants to make DTD as family friendly as possible. I'd suggest maybe a family friendly improv club, but a step up from Monsters Inc.?

I think finding a market for something like that would be difficult. If it's too kid-friendly, then 1) people without kids won't go, and 2) people with kids won't drink. I'm not sure that it would be a big money-maker for Disney.

[Crow]

well they messed up here obviously.
ill be there next wk, but PI is just something to walk thru on the way to the other side.

[DizneyFreak2002]

Back to the OPs point of TDO wanting it to fail....I always found it suspicious that if something criminal happened in the parks or resorts, it would be hushed up. But if something happened at PI, it always seemed to make the news. I was in WDW when someone tried to rob one of the All-Star resorts, and there was nothing on the news. But some kid mugs somebody on PI, and it's national news. I never felt comfortable about that, and thinking that TDO wanted PI to fail just helps all that make sense.

Any kind of criminal activity isn't why they wanted it to fail though... There is more criminal activity elsewhere on property... TDO only saw dollar signs... They figured they can get out of the club/restaurant business at DTD and rent out to 3rd party businesses... Then the economy tanked... If the economy didn't tank, who knows how PI would look today... But, the economy did tank and TDO was left holding their brains, er, backsides (which is where their brains are I think)... Management should NEVER be caught off guard by a down economy... One rule of management: PLAN FOR ECONOMIC CYCLES CAUSE THEY HAPPEN LIKE DEATH AND TAXES (unless you are co-founder of Facebook then flee the U.S. and never pay a dime in taxes)... They had no plan... Now, they have a falilure on their hands while CityWalk thrives...

[Crow]

yes poor planning there and no plan B...plan B go back to how it was...

[kageese]

Maybe if the focus is more on the actual MUSIC and ENTERTAINMENT. Maybe a concept very similar to the Pleasure Island theme, but updated for today.

First thing I think of is Nashville and all the bars they have for performers and starting out performers. New performers (low-key) performing in some of the venues during the day--while also offering lunch and early dinner while you watch. So you can have some activity during the day.

You could have themes for different genres of music and maybe contests similar to The Voice and those types of shows. Also add Comedy, Improv, Magic & Dance ("Shake It Up")?

OR maybe pick an entertainment/music favorite from different cities. Like a Music "Epcot". Also try to get in a big headliner here and there.

I think the "flow" of Pleasure Island was bad--they'd have to improve on that. I also remember liking the headline stage and having New Year's Eve celebration at night.

I'm not a drinker, so my focus is never really on the alcohol -- sorry! Maybe split up the week and have certain nights more family oriented--all the Disney show kids sing and perform now--you could highlight their talent and bring in crowds and cross-promote like Disney loves to do.