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Paterno Fired?
Rumors are starting to circulate that he is out. Not good enough. He and anyone else who knew and didn't report it to the police should be arrested.
Jeff
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Listen, I don't pretend to know all the details but from what I've heard thus far I tend to agree with you.
I can't rationalize Paterno's response here. If that was me, you'd have had to pry me off of Sandusky to prevent me from choking the life out of him (figuratively speaking).
At a minimum, I can't fathom not immediately calling the police. I don't see any way JoePa can survive this. Nor should he.
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What I have read today, details of which Intercot's TOS do not allow repeating, left me speechless. If Joe really was told what the Graduate Assistant claims he told Joe, then tar and feathering would be appropriate.
I believe Joe released a statement claiming to have not been told the details the GA claims to have relayed, but I don't think he will survive it either way.
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Originally Posted by Goofy4TheWorld
If Joe really was told what the Graduate Assistant claims he told Joe, then tar and feathering would be appropriate.
Or too kind, depending on who you ask.
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What a sad day for all the families involved. There is no excuse for this behavior or covering it up. I hope all involved will be let go. My youngest just graduated from PSU this year and is heartbroken.
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Originally Posted by disney obsessed
I never thought I would see the day that I would be embarrassed to be a Penn State Alumni.
Don't be embarassed. You are still part of a great legacy. Let's hope that all involved are let go and charged for whatever their involvement may have been.
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Sick and sad! And tar and feathering not enough.
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I cannot help but feel that way. Anyone who goes to Penn State, or lives in the area ( I grew up there too), knows that Penn State Football is like a religion. It is a way of life, a lifestyle choice, a part of my soul. It helped shape who I am. I feel that I have been dissapointed by a parent. I cannot help it. I guess this is how my grief will play out.
It is a lot like my obsession with Disney World. To me, Joe Paterno is like Walt Disney. The creator of the fantasyland that is Happy Valley.
I am very sad and disappointed that I will now associate something so horriffic with something so wonderful.
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Just got an ESPN ScoreCenter alert that Paterno is retiring, effective the end of the season.
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The whole thing is beyond....
Paterno won't get fired, I do believe he will resign on his own at the end of the season. Not really the way he wanted to leave...
He did report what he knew back in 2002. Penn State higher ups are at fault here.
So sad maddening, working in the field I do to hear that "At Risk Youths" were so horribly abused by someone they trusted. It is sick. These kids had enough on their plates without being sexually abused.
I hope and pray that justice is served, and this monster will never hurt another child again.
Penn State or not, this can not be tolerated!!
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Originally Posted by Melanie
Just got an ESPN ScoreCenter alert that Paterno is retiring, effective the end of the season.
Oh, that's nice of him.
Jeff
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Originally Posted by Melanie
Just got an ESPN ScoreCenter alert that Paterno is retiring, effective the end of the season.
I just saw your post Melanie... It was how I suspected.
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Originally Posted by princessgirls
He did report what he knew back in 2002. Penn State higher ups are at fault here.
My understanding is that in PA, yes, he did not have to report to the cops. But I just heard a prosecutor from NY say that there, and many other states, he would have to report to police (or some other official agency.) How that's not a law in all states is beyond me.
Jeff
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Originally Posted by princessgirls
The whole thing is beyond....
PHe did report what he knew back in 2002. Penn State higher ups are at fault here.
It really is beyond horrible, truly unimaginable. I think the problem everyone has is that there is a big difference between legal obligations and moral obligations. The first instinct should always be to protect the innocent ... especially the children. If Paterno had knowledge and failed to follow up on protecting the victims, then he failed morally ... as a Christian, as a human being. He failed and so did the higher ups.
This is a quote from a good espn article today about the failures and the problem with power: "For each expression of outrage, we've been here before with the failures by churches, police departments and teams. Somewhere, each institution committed the fatal mistake of believing that power was not a privilege to be handled with great care and humility but instead a license to be above trust. The powerful often have forgotten whom they are supposed to serve."
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Originally Posted by MizMissy
It really is beyond horrible, truly unimaginable. I think the problem everyone has is that there is a big difference between legal obligations and moral obligations. The first instinct should always be to protect the innocent ... especially the children. If Paterno had knowledge and failed to follow up on protecting the victims, then he failed morally ... as a Christian, as a human being. He failed and so did the higher ups.
This is a quote from a good espn article today about the failures and the problem with power: "For each expression of outrage, we've been here before with the failures by churches, police departments and teams. Somewhere, each institution committed the fatal mistake of believing that power was not a privilege to be handled with great care and humility but instead a license to be above trust. The powerful often have forgotten whom they are supposed to serve."
I agree 100%!!!!
Ever wonder how he sleeps at night????? More victims are coming forward. He could have done something to STOP it, 9 years ago and didn't take it further. More kids were abused.
That's on him all for football? You know what, if he followed up with the police, Penn State Football would have gone on.
Legally he did speak up once and was shut down. Morally he failed on every level.
Pray for those who were so violated.
Julie
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This story is so sickening. What a way for Paterno to go out like this! How could any of them not think about the poor children involved!!!? I know winning is important but my gosh.....never more important than the well being of a child! So sad what those kids have to live with!
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Originally Posted by disney obsessed
Anyone who goes to Penn State, or lives in the area ( I grew up there too), knows that Penn State Football is like a religion. It is a way of life, a lifestyle choice, a part of my soul. It helped shape who I am. I feel that I have been dissapointed by a parent. I cannot help it. I guess this is how my grief will play out.
It is a lot like my obsession with Disney World. To me, Joe Paterno is like Walt Disney. The creator of the fantasyland that is Happy Valley.
I am very sad and disappointed that I will now associate something so horriffic with something so wonderful.
I went to Arizona State, now live in CA, but our family used to attend the Fiesta Bowl in AZ every year for more than a decade. We saw many Penn State appearances and saw Paterno and their loyal fans win each game that they were there. Certainly a sad time for Penn State, but of course worse for the victims. Not the way anyone wanted to see Paterno leave Penn State or to have the events associated with the school.
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Here's his statement... tell me this isn't arrogant and egotistical.
"I am absolutely devastated by the developments in this case. I grieve for the children and their families, and I pray for their comfort and relief.
"I have come to work every day for the last 61 years with one clear goal in mind: To serve the best interests of this university and the young men who have been entrusted to my care. I have the same goal today.
"That's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can.
"This is a tragedy. It is one of the great sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more. My goals now are to keep my commitments to my players and staff and finish the season with dignity and determination. And then I will spend the rest of my life doing everything I can to help this university."
At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address.
Yea Joe, you still have the integraty to tell the trustees what to do.
My goals now are to keep my commitments to my players and staff and finish the season with dignity and determination.
Dignity? ... DIGNITY!?!?!?!
Are you serious?
How is this guy not yet fired?
Jeff
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Paterno should not be allowed to finish the season. He showed a lack of integrity and should not be permitted to coach any more.
Today my daughter wore her 100 days to Thon shirt proudly. There is more to PSU than football. Let's hope the victims get the justice they deserve and the currents students are able to get back to their college routines.
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