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The Mitchell Report
The Mitchell Report will be released today at 2:00PM.
Roger Clemens is the first big name leaked to be on the list (ESPN.com).
Last edited by Hammer; 12-13-2007 at 01:17 PM.
Reason: Added a source for Scar's information
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Scar, I plan to post the whole list once it is released and will merge this thread into it.
In regards to Clemens, I am not that surprised. I'm trying to be prepared for any name to show up on the list, though there are some I really hope I am wrong.
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Second name to be leaked: Andy Petitte. A quote from an article I read: "It's going to be a rough day in the Bronx" once the report is released (ESPN.com).
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The list has been leaked. Look for:
Brady Anderson
Rafael Palmero
Manny Alexander
Albert Pujols
Jeff Bagwell
Lenny Dyksta
Johnny Damon
Eric Gagne
Nomar Garciapara
There are 76 names total. Some surprises, some painfully obvious.
It'll be interesting to see what happens next.
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I'm sure they are going to look at the dates of the infractions. This was something MLB was well aware of and ignored for years so it will really be interesting to see their take on it and if they levy and punishments.
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As I stated earlier, I will post the complete list when it is officially released. I ask that if people are going to name any names prior to 2 o'clock, please site your source. I'm editing my posts now to provide that information.
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Originally Posted by JPL
I'm sure they are going to look at the dates of the infractions. This was something MLB was well aware of and ignored for years so it will really be interesting to see their take on it and if they levy and punishments.
Well, for players such as Jay Gibbons, they have levied punishment, but the punishment is based on the rules at the time of the infraction. Gibbons, to his credit, didn't make excuses for why he used the cycle of steriods he used. He said he used it as a way to speed up healing from an injury. Dykstra (if is on the official list), as he is retired and there wasn't a policy in the late 1980's-early 1990's, will probably not be punished at all.
It will be interesting to see if some of these guys were habitual users (Sosa, McGwire) or used a few months cycle of steriods to rehab an injury. It still wrong regardless the reason, but I think you may see more who used the steriods as a way to quickly heal from injury, as recommended by the training staff, rather than to hit more home runs.
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I could easily tell you that my source IS the Mitchell Report.
As I'm sure you know, all MLB teams and the players union were given an advanced copy of the list.
It has been published (probably in the same "report you read") that this advanced copy would be distributed at 1PM (the exact time of my post by the way) but the list was distributed well before that.
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I also read that Jason Varitek is on the list... I'd only imagine he won't be a captain soon. EDIT: Turns out he was not on the list.
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Originally Posted by kdsjjb
I could easily tell you that my source IS the Mitchell Report.
As I'm sure you know, all MLB teams and the players union were given an advanced copy of the list.
It has been published (probably in the same "report you read") that this advanced copy would be distributed at 1PM (the exact time of my post by the way) but the list was distributed well before that.
So where did you see it?
Jeff
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I just found this link off the Boston Red Sox fan forum. Lots of interesting names on there.
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Originally Posted by kdsjjb
I could easily tell you that my source IS the Mitchell Report.
As I'm sure you know, all MLB teams and the players union were given an advanced copy of the list.
It has been published (probably in the same "report you read") that this advanced copy would be distributed at 1PM (the exact time of my post by the way) but the list was distributed well before that.
All I am asking that if you are getting the info from ESPN.com or WFAN (for example) you list it in the post. There have already been a few phony lists which have been pulled off internet sites. The official list will be released to the PUBLIC at 2 pm and at that point there will not be a need to site sources.
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Originally Posted by Hammer
... or used a few months cycle of steriods to rehab an injury. It still wrong regardless the reason, but I think you may see more who used the steriods as a way to quickly heal from injury, as recommended by the training staff, rather than to hit more home runs.
You know, I think I would be in favor of using it to rehab an injury. As long as it is disclosed, prescribed and administered by a real doctor (and not one associated with the team), and only for a certain length of time.
I had a bad lung infection a few years ago and was prescribed steroids. I'm no expert by I assume it help me.
Jeff
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Well now, Scar, I will be treading on thin ice here, so please forgive me if I seem a little vague.
I am employed by one of these "organizations" and although I was not on the distribution list for the original release of the report, as I'm sure you know, these things will quickly spread around the "office."
Soon after, they start making it to the outside world. When I got an email BACK FROM the outside world dislosing the information that we were given, I figured that since I wasn't the first, I felt OK posting the few names that I did.
That certainly does not mean that I feel comfortable enough to post the entire list, or the "organization" that I work for.
If you, or Hammer, would like the entire list, I might feel alright about a PM to either of you.
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Originally Posted by kdsjjb
If you, or Hammer, would like the entire list, I might feel alright about a PM to either of you.
Thank you.
I'm not that desperate though, I can wait a few more minutes.
Jeff
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Eric Gagne, whose name appears in one the first posts in this thread, did he play for the Twins and is he from Southeastern Massachusetts? If so he is one of the local boy heroes in this area.
Just wanted some clarification on that.
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Originally Posted by RedheadWriter
Eric Gagne, whose name appears in one the first posts in this thread, did he play for the Twins and is he from Southeastern Massachusetts? If so he is one of the local boy heroes in this area.
Just wanted some clarification on that.
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No. That was Greg Gagne.
A few names so far:
Paul LoDuca
Miguel Tejada
Mo Vaughn
Source: The Mitchell Report
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Well, they aren't making it easy for me to give a complete list. Sorry, I have a job and can't spend the afternoon reading the full report. Now my local sports radio station is reading through it and is giving names as they get to them. So far:
Barry Bonds
Sammy Sosa
Roger Clemens
Andy Pettite
David Bell
Lenny Dykstra
Todd Pratt
David Justice
Eric Gagne
Gary Sheffield
Jason Grimsley
Ryan Franklin
Miguel Tejada
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Originally Posted by Hammer
I have a job and can't spend the afternoon reading the full report.
People that obviously don't work are updating the list on wikipedia continuously.
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The report is 409 pages long - I'm off work today and I don't have the time to sit and read 409 pages! Personally, I think it's just another attempt at a witch hunt. I'm sure some of these guys did use steriods but without solid proof from MLB, this report really means nothing to me. If you go to ESPN.com, there is a link to the whole document as well as to a survey that you can take to let them know what you think of the report.
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