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Originally Posted by Ian
Also, how lame a list of "new attractions" is that? TS Mania is the only one on the list that's actually an attraction. The rest are basically nothing changes they're making. I hate when they put together bogus lists like that to try and make it look like they're actually adding stuff to a park when they aren't.
I know I am repeating myself, but this really seems to be the new Disney way. The marketing spin employed by Disney these days is so transparent it makes my stomach turn. They must really think the average Disney fan/guest is quite dumb.
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Originally Posted by Scar
Yea well, you think "Eagles" sounds better than "Giants".
well....since neither...in reality....could carry the jockeys of "Steelers"....then it really is a silly debate...
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Wow...the "new name, new experiences" article that the Sentinel was paid to print...errrr...I mean..."reported" is classic Eisnerian Fluff....
They continue to just barely keep MGM...or what ever it's called....on life support.
Let's face it....it's undersized...under invested in.....and glossing over the redux of the car show.....hasn't had a "big" new draw since RnRollercoaster in 1999...
The expectations for the Toy Story Mania are big....but the park needs more....an enlarging of the park's footprint to allow for more guest space would be a good start....
In the back of my mind...I can't shake the thought that Disney's staffing issues will not allow the kind of massive reinvestment in both AK and MGM that both parks need.....
I hope that MGM will not be the ugly little sister forever...
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Maybe the idea to leave Pixar out of the name was two-fold.
If they had Pixar in the name, it might limit the attractions that were not Pixar related.
Also, if there were a falling out with Pixar and it were bought/sold, there would be a 'Here we go again' on the name. Hollywood studios is generic enough they probably won't need to change it again for a while.
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I like the name. it's an all-encompassing "movie" name, and doesn't just focus on one studio (MGM), but ALL studios and ALL movies.
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Doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
I think it's the apostrophe -- that always makes a park name a little more clunky.
Ah well, I guess "The Disney-MGM Studios" sounded clunky in 1989 too.
You would think that "Hollywood Studio" would be superfluous-- but Disney execs know you can never have enough movie magic in a title. Maybe something like "Disney's Lights Camera Action Hollywood Movie Star-Studded Studio in Hollywood" would have been better.
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just to add another article...
http://origin.mercurynews.com/travel/ci_6592775
Disney-MGM Studios will change its name
The Associated Press
Article Launched: 08/10/2007 10:11:34 AM PDT
LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla.—Disney-MGM Studios is changing its name to Disney's Hollywood Studios, starting January 2008.
"The new name reflects how the park has grown from representing the golden age of movies to a celebration of the new entertainment that today's Hollywood has to offer—in music, television, movies and theater," said Walt Disney World Resort president Meg Crofton in a statement.
"As a park all about entertainment, Disney's Hollywood Studios will deliver like never before. Now we can say that Hollywood is literally our middle name," Crofton wrote.
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In case no one has noticed , the theme of the entire park is Hollywood. Makes perfect sense to call it Disney's Hollywood Studios , since it is Disney's version of Hollywood.
MGM had no relevance anymore , and Pixar is way too limiting a name to attach to the park.
As far as the list of attractions is concerned , maybe it isn't electrifying news , but it does involve changes. The biggest gripe usually centers on the fact that the parks aren't offering enough new stuff. Well here it is , and it isn't a bad start. And at least there is one major attraction coming. Toy Story Mania is going to be much more than Buzz Lightyear II.
IoA 's Spiderman technology is coming to Disney. This should be making a lot of people happy. Why can't we cut Meg Crofton some slack ?
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You know, I've always called it "The Studios" anyway, so it's no big deal to me what comes after the hyphen. As for the new attractions, I agree that TSM is the only one that really fits into my definition of an "attraction," but a lot of people really like the shows and stuff the other lesser "attractions" are based on (not me, but others...) , so I have no problem with the press release. I think it does show that things are beginning to ramp up a bit. I DO wish they would actually make the place a real studio again.....but maybe, in time, they will.
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Originally Posted by Tekneek
I know I am repeating myself, but this really seems to be the new Disney way. The marketing spin employed by Disney these days is so transparent it makes my stomach turn. They must really think the average Disney fan/guest is quite dumb.
I agree! I'm all for Disney giving existing attractions an update if they need it, but I don't think they should be called "New attractions". As a parent of 2 older teens, I don't see anything new that would appeal to our family except perhaps the TSM. And to say that "This is easily one of the most ambitious attractions rollouts in the 18-year history of the park" seems ridiculous to me considering RRC, ToT & Fantasmic. Its good to stay on top of things, but don't over dramatize it. Still love Disney!
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Originally Posted by WeLuvBuzz
I probably would have preferred just Disney Studios or even Disney's Movie Kingdom to go with all the other kingdoms.
I actually like Disney's Movie Kingdom.... How many non-Disney fans do you all know who think MGM is a working studio? How many non-Disney fans actually think MGM is not a Disney park??? I know a few, believe it or not..... I also have peopel tell me that they went to Universal, when it is actually MGM, or MGM when ot was actually Universal.... Get rid of the studios name and theme altogether, call ig Disney's Movie Kingdom, and slowly rebuild the park to resemble Hollywood, with the Chinese Theather being remade into El Capitan Theater, riding the buildings as a soundstage, and redesign their facade to look like Broadway style show buildings, design RNRC's facade to look like G-Force Records recordingh studo... after all, that is what it is when you enter the building, yet they theme the outside as a movie soundstage..... Tower of Terror can keep ther same storyline, since Hollywood needs a hotel where toruists stay.... Get rid of the street names as the sections of the park, and call them more name specific lands, such as Pixar Place... Maybe contract out with George Lucas for the rights to use Skywalker Ranch, build a new land centered around the ranch, with some rides based on Lucasfilm's properties.... Give the muppets their own land and call it Muppet Studios, where you can have a new 3D movie, ot the Great Muppet Movie Ride, and a kiddie ride or two along with a muppet play area for the kids.. There is so much potential.... and a huge budget to go along with it... But, in my opinion, the money spent would be well worth the return....
Think about it... the name MOVIE KINGDOM would be all encompassing....
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If they ever decided to spend that much money on those things, they would surely be building it on a different continent.
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Originally Posted by Tekneek
If they ever decided to spend that much money on those things, they would surely be building it on a different continent.
Basically, doing what I stated would be like re-building the park, ground up... But the idea is nice, isn't it?
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Originally Posted by WEDTOPIA
In case no one has noticed , the theme of the entire park is Hollywood. Makes perfect sense to call it Disney's Hollywood Studios , since it is Disney's version of Hollywood.
MGM had no relevance anymore , and Pixar is way too limiting a name to attach to the park.
As far as the list of attractions is concerned , maybe it isn't electrifying news , but it does involve changes. The biggest gripe usually centers on the fact that the parks aren't offering enough new stuff. Well here it is , and it isn't a bad start. And at least there is one major attraction coming. Toy Story Mania is going to be much more than Buzz Lightyear II.
IoA 's Spiderman technology is coming to Disney. This should be making a lot of people happy. Why can't we cut Meg Crofton some slack ?
How is it that every time I read a long thread, I start formulating my thoughts...and WEDTOPIA has beaten me to the punch? Every time.
This is probably the most sound and rational post I've read on all this. I think Meg Crofton is being pro-active, something that has be sorely missing from the Studios up until now.
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Originally Posted by DizneyFreak2002
Basically, doing what I stated would be like re-building the park, ground up... But the idea is nice, isn't it?
Yes, it is a great idea, but Disney would never approve such a capital expenditure here. They consider the parks here to be "mature" and need only be "managed" to get the maximum amount of revenue out of them.
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The name chance doesn't really bother me. It really doesn't make a difference what they change the name to, I'll be calling the park MGM for the rest of my natural life. I'm notoriously unable to adapt to name changes... anyone for a ride on the Wedway?
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Let's not forget the one massive difference between Buzz and TSM: the ever-changing experience. Remember that while Space Ranger Spin never changes, Toy Story Mania will adjust its difficulty based on the in-car experience for each team of Guests.
I've often told Guests that the two will be very similar, so it's not entirely unfounded.
As for the name change, it will definitely take getting used to. I personally wanted the name to be "The Disney-Hollywood Studios" simply to imply that they were still connected to one another rather than implying that the studios belong to the Disney entity. To me, that possessive usage makes all the difference.
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The name change could take some getting used to but I think they could have come up with something far worse. As far as the new line up of attractions go, I'll try to keep an open mind. Toy Story Mania sounds promising but I would have liked to see a different movie used for the themeing. After all, it's getting to be an older movie and the new generation may not be all that familiar with it. I am glad that they are updating Playhouse Disney. Bear in the Big Blue house was the central theme and it's no longer on. I think most people with toddler's who watch Playhouse Disney will be happy with the changes.
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I do like the new name,so much better than having Pixar in the name. But I'm sure I'll continue to refer to the park as 'MGM' for a very long time
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