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Originally Posted by cantgetenuff
Holy smokes! I think what really blew me away about this is that it was two ladies!!!
Shameful!
Uh, something tells me the one doing the hitting might be female, but wouldn't be considered a "lady".
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Talk about an overreaction.
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If she did this because she "thought" someone was cutting the line can you imagine what she would do if someone really did something to her or her family. OMG. Time for a cool refreshing break perhaps???!!!
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I'd like this clarified if anyone has the info - I read somewhere that the line cutting lady didn't really cut in line - they were in that little corral and a CM told everyone (or her) to fill in all available space - they were in an area where everyone is getting on the next ride, and the fill in all available space is pretty common at WDW.
I am a little wary of how the victim (or her lawyers ) are phrasing it all - sounds like a set up for suing Disney,
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It's never been addressed but maybe the person who punched the "supposed" line cutter said something to her and the "supposed" line cutter got nasty with her first. Still not a reason for violence but if this person just started hitting without talking she has more issues than anger. Very scary.
It has happened to me plenty at WDW and other places. Although I choose to handle it without violence. I do say something to the person cutting in line. Something simple like "excuse me, maybe you did not notice but we where here first". Usually it embarrasses the people to step back and sometimes not. If they don't step back you can tell what kind of character they have especially cutting in front of children who have been waiting patiently. I have to agree with another posts that said about Disney telling people to fill in. I hate that with a passion. Everyone just pushing and shoving. It's very easy to get cut in front of or cut someone off yourself. I hate waits like that.
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the woman that was attacked now has permanent psychological and physical problems. PTSD, a bulging cervical spine disc, neurological issues causing seizures.
All that from a few punches in the head? I'm not a doctor, but that sounds like a bit much, unless she had physical problems which were exacerbated by the punches.
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Originally Posted by sonayo74
All that from a few punches in the head? I'm not a doctor, but that sounds like a bit much, unless she had physical problems which were exacerbated by the punches.
Agreed 100%...This is nothing more than "lawsuit" material.
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I think her lawsuit is as phony as a 3 dollar bill!! But then again I used to say that about 2 dollar bills then they became true ahahaha!!
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Originally Posted by Polynesian Dweller
What's stated at the bottom of the Orlando Sentinel article is that Walker had a previous assault arrest in Albama.
Two things for me.
1. Having been employed in the criminal justice system for 18 years, there are bad women just like there are bad men and lots more than people think. So no surprise at all that it was women involved.
2. Yet another example that WDW is just another place in the world. Anything that happens in the 'real' world has the potential of happening there. You have to keep you safety radar on even when you are on vacation.
Spoken like a true CRJ major. You make me proud to be minoring in CRJ with a degree in History. I agree, and this is coming from someone in Alabama. Dont think we are all crazy. I love disney. I would never chance getting thrown out. It is aggravating but you gotta think bout the others too. You cant take that from your kids cause your ticked off. People just dont see it that way I guess...Sad.
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Hope this does not become a trend and get it's own tag of 'Line Rage.'
We were at Busch Gardens Europe recently and they had multiple signs in the lines for rides that were large and spelled out in no uncertain terms that cutting in line could result in immediate expulsion from the park with no refund.
The previous post about security cameras has lots of merit.
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Not to even defend these people or their actions, but;
...they were in that little corral and a CM told everyone (or her) to fill in all available space - they were in an area where everyone is getting on the next ride, and the fill in all available space is pretty common at WDW...
They were at The Mad Tea Party Ride (Tea-Cups?) I don't think there is a corral area there, just a line. It's been since '06 since I've ridden it, but I only remember a line within a fenced in/gate-like area. Usually the whole "fill in all available space" spiel is for attractions where they're counting off bodies to enter the attraction (i.e. Rock-n-Roller Coaster).
All that from a few punches in the head? I'm not a doctor, but that sounds like a bit much...
I'm not a doctor either, but a therapist at a psychiatric facility, and in my patient groups I do see a lot of clients with TBI's (brought on by beatings to the head amongst other things.) Siezures are a common after effect of TBI's, but usually the beating has to be fairly severe, at least to the extent of losing consciousness. I've seen nothing to this reported, so it could be exhagerated symptoms or (as was stated) a previous underlying condition.
Either way, this is such a sad statement of our society that something like this had to even happen at a place like WDW.
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Originally Posted by wizardmickey
Not to even defend these people or their actions, but;
They were at The Mad Tea Party Ride (Tea-Cups?) I don't think there is a corral area there, just a line. It's been since '06 since I've ridden it, but I only remember a line within a fenced in/gate-like area. Usually the whole "fill in all available space" spiel is for attractions where they're counting off bodies to enter the attraction (i.e. Rock-n-Roller Coaster).
I'm not a doctor either, but a therapist at a psychiatric facility, and in my patient groups I do see a lot of clients with TBI's (brought on by beatings to the head amongst other things.) Siezures are a common after effect of TBI's, but usually the beating has to be fairly severe, at least to the extent of losing consciousness. I've seen nothing to this reported, so it could be exhagerated symptoms or (as was stated) a previous underlying condition.
Either way, this is such a sad statement of our society that something like this had to even happen at a place like WDW.
Ice dude there is a little corral there at the tea cups and the CM's there do tell people to fill all available space. Me thinks these to could have used a time out.
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Witnesses wanted in scuffle at Walt Disney World Mad Tea Party ride
April Hunt | Sentinel Staff Writer
August 23, 2007
Orange County Sheriff's investigators are interested in finding more witnesses to an attack at the teacup ride at Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom earlier this year.
Victoria Walker, 51, faces felony battery charges for allegedly attacking Aimee Krause of Clermont because she thought the other woman had skipped her place in line for the Mad Tea Party on May 27. Krause, then 34, was jumped from behind and suffered serious injury to her head and neck.
Walker, who lives in Anniston, Ala., is scheduled to go on trial on Oct. 29. She had pleaded not guilty in the case.
Deputies found several witnesses to the attack in the days following the attack. However, with additional media attention, they are interested in interviewing anyone else who saw the scuffle.
Witnesses are asked to call 407-939-3200 and ask for Detective Kelly Boaz.
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Really what is line cutting coming to?? If you just blantely jump in front of someone, that's line cutting, no question. If you have some family in line, you have to go to the restroom or something very similar, and return that is NOT line cutting.....not in any way shape or form......especially if the line is 40 / 50 minutes.....some personal things may need attended to that cannot wait.......and getting out of line after waiting 30 min or so, then going to the back of the line....that's just crazy....what if your family is waiting at a table at a counter service, you order your food, find out your DW /DH has the money...are you going to retrieve the money and start over??????
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Originally Posted by #1donaldfan
what if your family is waiting at a table at a counter service, you order your food, find out your DW /DH has the money...are you going to retrieve the money and start over??????
You betcha.
I might not like it, but it's what I'd do.
(As I see it it's my own fault for forgetting the money in the first place.)
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I must just be very non-confrontational or something because even if I saw someone cutting in line, I probably wouldn't say anything. I mean, sure it would annoy me, but the stress of a possible confrontation and then having to sit in line a few feet from that person just wouldn't be worth it. Most of the time I'm just inline with family and friends so I figure just a few more minutes of talking to them.
Now, if it was a problem and I saw it happening many times in front of me with different people, at that time I'd bring it up to the CM.
Sounds like the woman exhibited bad judgment on a probably busy, stressful and tiring day.
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Disney should post signs up in the queue area s that say, "Line cutting may be hazardous to your health!"
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When I read such awful news, I keep remembering myself that those guests represent only 1% (or even less) of the guests on site.
Those "ONEers" are the ones we keep remembering. We remember the line cutters, the abusive "Guests" or those who drive an ECV for fun. Let's keep in mind that WDW is a "Good People" magnet and that wonderful acts of kindness rarely get reported.
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