New Classification System for Walt Disney World Hotels?

[DizneyFreak2002]

Any thoughts on what "class" of hotel this would be? On first hearing of it I figured it would definitely have to be a value. However in reading it now you would have to think it would be ultra-deluxe?

There will no longer be classes for hotels... That is going away...

[baldburke]

There will no longer be classes for hotels... That is going away...

Really? All Stars won't be considered value resorts and Port Orleans a moderate?

[VWL Mom]

There will no longer be classes for hotels... That is going away...

I don't understand?? There has to be classes or levels for pricing, no? Even though, with the gondola addition I'm sure POP and AoA will be hiked up/reclassified.

[antnyh]

Don't see how they cannot be categorized. Even with added transportation options, the resorts simply don't compare. Poly and Pop are just too different.

[Anthony007]

There will no longer be classes for hotels... That is going away...

Huh? There will still need to be cheaper hotels and expensive hotels, no one is going to pay Poly prices for ASM.

Are they just changing the categories?

[BrerGnat]

I think w/ SW land, everything else, I think the room rates are really going to be increased.. So, I think the idea of moderates will fade out. There new reclassification I think will allow them to more easily sneak in substantially higher prices.

Yep. Especially when 2 of the moderates and two values will be part of the gondola transportation system...

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[texas211]

As far as the doing away with classes. Based on what i see on pricing, all disney hotels fall into the delux pricing. Waldorf or Gaylord here I come.

[texas211]

I think w/ SW land, everything else, I think the room rates are really going to be increased.. So, I think the idea of moderates will fade out. There new reclassification I think will allow them to more easily sneak in substantially higher prices.

[azcavalier]

I think w/ SW land, everything else, I think the room rates are really going to be increased.. So, I think the idea of moderates will fade out. There new reclassification I think will allow them to more easily sneak in substantially higher prices.

I think that they could just raise the prices without reclassification. I don't think reclassifying has anything to do with trying to figure out a way to make more money, simply because they can raise prices whenever they want.

If you want to go to WDW cheap(er), there is always a way. Yes, it might necessitate staying off-property and eating off-property, or still going when there is free dining if you insist on eating at Disney restaurants.

12-14 years ago, we bought a couple of DVC contracts second-hand. 50 points at OKW for $4500. Man has that paid off many times over. For example, 11 months ago we planned a week-long trip to WDW with some friends. Bought our packages, got free dining, stayed at Port Orleans Riverside. On the last day of the trip, we went to a Guest Relations counter, and applying our existing MYW pass value, we upgraded to Annual Gold Passes. With a DVC discount, and what we had spent on the vacation we were currently taking, it was something like $150/person to upgrade. Maybe $200.

Then I came back for a conference in November (at the Dolphin), and had access to the parks in the evenings. Then in February my wife and I went to Hawaii, and had enough points to stay at Aulani for three days at the end of our trip. Then in March, we went back to WDW with my sister, used an AirBNB to stay off site, but had our APs for the parks. Then two weeks later, I had another conference (at a Disney Springs hotel) and again had access to the parks. Now, in less than two weeks, my wife has a class on Amelia Island for work, so we're taking our daughters down to WDW the week before and using our APs one last time before they expire, staying at Old Key West on our DVC points for six days. Since we have those APs and DVC points (which we paid off years ago), our only out of pocket expense will be food and any souvenirs we want. And since we have Disney Visa CC's, we have rewards points for a lot of that.

I mean, we certainly give a lot of money to Disney, it's true. But we have had multiple trips where our only out-of-pocket expense was food because of the judicious use of DVC points and APs. Every trip doesn't cost thousands of dollars.

[DizneyFreak2002]

I think that they could just raise the prices without reclassification. I don't think reclassifying has anything to do with trying to figure out a way to make more money, simply because they can raise prices whenever they want.

Agreed... I don't believe the reclassification (if and when they get to it) isn't about raising prices... They are going to rise anyway... I think it's to make thing a little easier classification-wise... People already kind of call Poly a MK resort... Well, this reclassification will just make it official lol...

Prices are going to go up once the gondalas open... And I do mean up... Not the typical yearly price increase... I believe they are going to skyrocket...

No I don't mean you will be paying 1000 a night for Pop... But you won't be paying 120 a night either...

[Cinderelley]

No I don't mean you will be paying 1000 a night for Pop... But you won't be paying 120 a night either...

I'm not sure I would be paying $120 a night for the new Pop either. I really don't like the pictures I have seen of the rooms.

[texas211]

I'm not sure I would be paying $120 a night for the new Pop either. I really don't like the pictures I have seen of the rooms.

I bet it'll be in the 200's before long. Whether that be next year or StarWars year.

[JerseyDad]

I'm not sure I would be paying $120 a night for the new Pop either. I really don't like the pictures I have seen of the rooms.

....I know of a place that gets $500/night for rooms that look like that ....it's called a hospital

[Cinderelley]

....I know of a place that gets $500/night for rooms that look like that ....it's called a hospital

LOL! That's probably why I don't like it. I work in a hospital.

[DizneyFreak2002]

....I know of a place that gets $500/night for rooms that look like that ....it's called a hospital

Here in my town, you'd be lucky if the hospital only charged $500 a night lol...

[TikiLounger]

So, basically, there will still be pricing based on resort amenities and room sizes, but they're just getting rid of the "deluxe, moderate, and value" descriptors? I agree with those who are saying that this is a way for them to sneak in higher prices in all the resorts...moderates and values, especially. Guest will stop expecting "value", if the word isn't used.

[Stu29573]

Wow, just when you think they can't screw things up any worse, they prove you wrong. My Disney days might well be over....

[DizneyFreak2002]

Just want to reiterate these are just rumors... Rumors based on a plan, yes... but just rumors at this point...

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[texas211]

Well, maybe if it goes to a pay to play format, it'll be a bit more usable as less people will buy in.

[DizneyFreak2002]

Well, maybe if it goes to a pay to play format, it'll be a bit more usable as less people will buy in.

Don't know about that... Disney has an uncanny way of convincing people to part with their money LOL...