Villains' Sinster Soiree to be available at MNSSHP- hard ticket event $99 per ticket

[ChipNDale79]

Gotta love a hard ticket event for a hard ticket event.

To each their own, but disney isn't getting a penny out of me for this.

It's too bad the people that buy these add ons feed into the imaginative laziness that has taken over disney.

If people didn't buy tickets to these events, it might actually force disney to use some real imagination.

[PirateLover]

I get what you are saying, my question is though is it Disney's fault or Disney's responsibilty concerning someone's disposable income?

Of course not. That's why I said I'm not really surprised nor really upset by it. Doesn't mean I have to like it or agree with it. They have every right to milk their fan base and I have every right not to purchase a ticket.

[Butters]

I don't have a problem with it, if there is no demand for it i'm sure it'll go away. If there is demand I'm sure we'll see more offerings along these lines.

If you don't like it just don't go and you'll never be aware that it's going on.

[PopPhan]

I realize that I came off harsh in my original post on this topic....A knee-jerk reaction, as it were.

IF you want to participate in this "Villain's Sinister Soiree" event, you cannot do it UNLESS you also pay for a MNSSHP ticket. Why not, if you really want this to go over well, have it on the off nights when MNSSHP is NOT being held?

Would I pay the price either way?? Probably not, but I don't do M&Gs anyway. Others would love to do it, but would not be interested in the MNSSHP.

[Melanie]

So wait - I'm out of it (on vacation). This is a hard ticket on top of a hard ticket?

[faline]

So wait - I'm out of it (on vacation). This is a hard ticket on top of a hard ticket?

Exactly!

[Melanie]

Exactly!

Whoa.

[mickeyman42]

So wait - I'm out of it (on vacation). This is a hard ticket on top of a hard ticket?

This is the sound of me checking out of every hard ticket event Disney can ever come up with forever.............done

[mickeyman42]

......and on the heels of the Vilians Unleashed mess that I attended, as my final "well it can't be that bad, right?" as far as hard ticket events go.

At least with this you know up front what you're getting (hosed), unlike the VU party where you had no idea before hand that:
1) the brown derby was open to anyone as a casual venue
2) that you should have gotten a treat bag when you left (we left at 1am, thanks Disney)
3) the event would be sold to anyone with money regardless of how many people that actually admitted

ok, ok I'll let the VU party go, just still so frustrated about it......ok, moving on....

Just waiting for the "Frozen festival of Food" at Cinderella's Royal Table at the MVMCP, cause you know its going to happen, or something similar.....

[TheVBs]

Well, for years a lot of people have been begging for a villain's character meal. Now there is one, at a premium price. Not begrudging the idea or the price. I just hope the people that choose to try it really enjoy it and feel that the ticket price was worth it.

[Tekneek]

EDITED my post...

At first I was bothered about this, but CRT is generally not open during the parties, as I recall. So this isn't moving something previously available to a premium ticketed event. It is a "new" offering. So charge whatever you want to, Disney. Why stop at $99? Put an exclusive after-party in the Haunted Mansion for $999 per person too.

[LittleDreamer]

The reviews on this event seem pretty mixed. Overall most people seem to really enjoy the face time with the villains. Complaints of the event management team and how they made people feel rushed. Probably the most constructive complaint I read, for the 10:15 at least, is that it takes up most of MNSSWP. That you are paying $99 to miss most of what you spent $70 on.

[IloveJack]

Probably the most constructive complaint I read, for the 10:15 at least, is that it takes up most of MNSSWP. That you are paying $99 to miss most of what you spent $70 on.

That's my biggest problem with it. I already have issues with paying an extra $70 for 8 hours in the park (if you enter at 4pm). I'm not going to pay $70 just to get to pay $99 more.

[The Hitchhiking Ghost]

That's my biggest problem with it. I already have issues with paying an extra $70 for 8 hours in the park (if you enter at 4pm). I'm not going to pay $70 just to get to pay $99 more.

Yeah, I read a very interesting and well presented blog written by an extreme Disney enthusiast, and his take away was "definitely not worth it".

On the plus side he said the CM's that played the villains were excellent and met all Disney standards.

One of the main problems was that people were rushed thru lines, plates were being cleared before eating was done, character lines were set up but you couldn't take the time to get photos because you were rushed up to the eating area. The other main issue seemed to be that after doing the parade, viewing the fireworks in the preferred location, then the dessert party, over 4 hours of your MNSSHP is gone. So paying a hard ticket price for access to rides that you no longer have time to go on becomes very much a rip-off.

Off all their money grabs, this truly is one of the biggest.

[The Hitchhiking Ghost]

Be prepared for more hard ticket events... Got to make that money up from the boondoggle that is My Magic Plus, magic bands, NextGen, and FP+ since, you know, it isn't tricking guests to spend more money (in other words, it's not working!!!), not the way the MBA's sold it to the BoD anyway...

After reading a blog review of this event a reader posted a follow up with interesting speculation that goes along with what you are saying. This reader had put forth that Disney sold Wall Street and everyone that My Magic Plus etc. would increase per visitor spending, which it hasn't as you pointed out. So to please Wall Street, and to create metrics, all of these hard ticket events end up reflecting an increase in per visitor spending, just not in the way they intended or wanted.

If my experience isn't diminished by the events, then all the more to you if want to drop $160 on this event. I certainly can't/won't throw $800 at it for my family. One of the things that I do dislike about MVMCP is that they hold it so many nights, I think it goes almost 50% of the nights by the time you total it up, that it ends up restricting my access to the MK, which isn't acceptable.

End of rant, losing focus.

[Melanie]

I'm still in awe (and not in a good way) of a hard ticket on top of a hard ticket. Blows. My. Mind.

[joonyer]

The price they charge for these events has little to do with the "value" a guest may receive, or the actual cost that Disney incurs in producing the event. It's all about supply and demand. In this case, for the Villains' Sinister Soiree, there is apparently a big demand, and a very limited supply (restaurant capacity). That makes for a high price.

For that matter, the same economics applies to general park admission as well. It's based on park capacity vs. demand. The higher the price, the lower the demand for tickets, and that's how they can keep the parks operating at near capacity, which is the most efficient mode of operation for Disney.

Wouldn't it be nice if you could buy a WDW park admission for only $10.00 per day? Maybe not. Imagine how impossible it would be to buy tickets at that price. People would be complaining because they couldn't get into WDW when they wanted to go. Sound familiar, BOG wanna be guests? The price gets the demand down to where supply is "relatively" balanced. True, it's not always perfect, but otherwise demand be out of control.

I get that it seems unfair, when price locks one out of certain events. But keep in mind, the price of basic admission to any WDW theme park already locks out probably 95% of the world's population. If you can afford a Disney trip at all, even a very basic one, you are already one of the privileged few. It's hard to argue that you are being treated unfairly because those people even more well off can enjoy a more expensive vacation. That's nothing new. I guess I am having trouble figuring out how even the average Disney guest ever started feeling discriminated against by prices. Those who are truly disadvantaged would be laughing at us.

OK, off my soapbox now, sorry.

[Tekneek]

On the other side of the "supply and demand" argument, I am getting hit with incentives (discounts and add-ins) to book a stay on property every week. While they are charging more and more and apparently operating at capacity in the parks, the same does not appear to be true for the hotels.

[ANG]

If my experience isn't diminished by the events, then all the more to you if want to drop $160 on this event. I certainly can't/won't throw $800 at it for my family. One of the things that I do dislike about MVMCP is that they hold it so many nights, I think it goes almost 50% of the nights by the time you total it up, that it ends up restricting my access to the MK, which isn't acceptable.

End of rant, losing focus.

From what I'm understanding, it WILL diminish the party experience. They've taken away the mingle part of the mix and mingle and most of those villians are no longer available for meet and greets because they are made soley for the Tremaine thing.

[Tekneek]

From what I'm understanding, it WILL diminish the party experience. They've taken away the mingle part of the mix and mingle and most of those villians are no longer available for meet and greets because they are made soley for the Tremaine thing.

Oh. I had not considered that they would do that. That would cause some disappointment and frustration because they are charging more for a party that now offers less.