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Originally Posted by Melanie
I agree about Dave and Connor and the moving on from the last race, and I thought they were going to be penalized as well. That wasn't clear at all.
To be honest, I don't love them. They have a great story, but they kinda bore me.
Dave and Connor didn't do anything that warranted a penalty. It was sort of like a teacher that says, "ok read chapters 1-3 and we'll take a test on it" and they read chapters 1-10.
They did everything that was required of the detour, they just did a lot extra. I thought the editing was quite choppy, but they obviously rafted all the way to the final checkpoint, then they went on foot back to deliver the food, retrieved their note, and then went back again. So they did all the necessary elements of the task, plus some.
The dad reminds me of football coach Dick Vermiel, both in looks and reactions, looking like he's about to cry and get emotional the first time someone says hi. Nice enough team, but the Andy & Opie schtick wears thin fast.
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Originally Posted by PirateLover
I know what you mean! They are a little too ordinary, "aw shucks" kind of people.. Almost too normal to be on the show! But that is why I think they could potentially win it all.
One other thing in regards to the taxi situation- I've mentioned this before, but I go back and watch earlier seasons since I didn't start watching the show until a few years ago. It always strikes me to see how much self-navigating they did in the earlier seasons, and I wonder why they don't really do this anymore. Maybe it became too tough logistically or too expensive to rent all of the cars? I don't know. I prefer the drama of self-navigating and being responsible for your own fate to the drama of leaving everything up to the taxi driver.
That is one of the complaints that I've had for a long team. Nothing separates the good from the bad like a good dose of long distance navigation. Look at Kynt & Vyksen in Japan in S18.
I'm sure a lot has to do with the difficulty of setting up the production and having the vehicles available.
But mostly I think it has to do with the countries they are visiting. Spending 3 or 4 straight legs in China and India, its probably a safety issue that they can't drive themselves. Normally you see it more when they are in European countries that they get to drive, or whenever Race has to promote the latest Ford vehicle. I don't know if they ever get to drive when they are traveling in and around Asia. Some countries may have laws to as to who is eligible to drive. Simply having a US drivers license may not be enough.
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Originally Posted by The Hitchhiking Ghost
They did everything that was required of the detour, they just did a lot extra. I thought the editing was quite choppy, but they obviously rafted all the way to the final checkpoint, then they went on foot back to deliver the food, retrieved their note, and then went back again. So they did all the necessary elements of the task, plus some.
To be honest, for ME, it was never really clear what any of them were to do after they completed their task. Obviously they did what was required. I think I may just not have paid close enough attention when Phil was explaining.
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Ok I get it now. I thought the teams that did delivery have to raft BACK, but they were just continuing on to the final checkpoint which was by the other detour option. So where Connor and Dave ended up was the proper endpoint, but since they chose delivery they had to finish the task on foot since they couldn't raft back upstream. Inadvertently this ended up giving them an advantage since the afghanimals got stuck.
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I'm so glad this was all explained. I too thought they were rafting back to the beginning.
I also had to laugh when Big Easy started asking Flight Time to get a taxi he could fit into "this time'.
Sorry, Marianne, but I don't care for Margie either. And she is at least a good part of the reason Luke was allowed to grow into the adult he is. I do realize that being a parent to a disabled child a bigger challenge. But as with all children we sometimes loose sight of the fact we are actually raising adults.
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Originally Posted by Melanie
Can I just say again how much I enjoy Flight Time and Big Easy? I know some don't respect how they run the race, but I love how much fun they have interacting. When Flight was saying how their job isn't really a job, my respect for him grew even more. They know how fortunate they are.
Good leg, interesting challenges. Did everyone see the previews? Luke is something else.
I totally agree about Big Easy and Flight, Mel. I really remembered why I like them so much this leg. They always seem to really just appreciate the experiences they're having and they never, ever fight or bicker with one another. They may not be the most competitive team out there, but I have a lot of respect for the way they run the race.
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Originally Posted by Ian
I totally agree about Big Easy and Flight, Mel. I really remembered why I like them so much this leg. They always seem to really just appreciate the experiences they're having and they never, ever fight or bicker with one another. They may not be the most competitive team out there, but I have a lot of respect for the way they run the race.
Flight linked to a video on his FB page yesterday that is just hilarious. It's from last week when they were waiting in line at the airport and the country singers are behind them and the one that's not John Wayne's granddaughter (yes, that's how I tell them apart) is driving them batty telling them to hurry up. So funny! Watch it.
http://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_rac...-hustle-it-up/
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If I watch any videos with the country singers in them I probably won't notice anything anyone is saying.
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Originally Posted by The Hitchhiking Ghost
But mostly I think it has to do with the countries they are visiting. Spending 3 or 4 straight legs in China and India, its probably a safety issue that they can't drive themselves. Normally you see it more when they are in European countries that they get to drive, or whenever Race has to promote the latest Ford vehicle. I don't know if they ever get to drive when they are traveling in and around Asia. Some countries may have laws to as to who is eligible to drive. Simply having a US drivers license may not be enough.
That is correct. I'm pretty sure they can't not drive in China. I will actually be in China in a few weeks. Never a fan of riding in the taxis there, or being on the freeways for that matter. Makes driving here in the LA area seem tame.
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Ugh even in that clip they throw out that "We're girls!" card, as if they speak for all women everywhere. I just have no patience for that. I don't remember them bothering me this much the first time around.
And Kay you won't get an argument from me! No doubt Margie was an enabler, but I think she's finally recognizing the repercussions of that. In the past she was also a whiner and lost patience quickly, but she's been handling the pressure better this time around, that's all.
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Originally Posted by Melanie
Are they your type, Ian?
Wait .... hold on ... lemme check ...
Yes, I have a pulse. Ergo they are my type
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So the most interesting piece of information gleaned from tonight's leg is that Rachel wears panty hose during the race. What---??? I have been contemplating the logistics of this ever since. I was happy to see the Cowboys come in first and wasn't the least bit surprised that it was a non-elimination leg for Brendan and Rachel, which I was actually happy about. Luke and Margie--well, I don't mind her so much this season, but oh my goodness, Luke just is not cut out for this type of competition.
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While the 4th leg is generally early for a non-elimination leg to appear, it didn't surprise me that much. Mostly because they allowed the 3 hour advantage that 6 teams gained the previous leg to carry thru this leg. They had no idea flight #2 would be delayed almost an hour effectively bunching the last 5 teams.
Luke and Margie trying to get Brenchel to quit was pathetic and for them to leave without even a simple thanks or good luck, or hang in there, was just classless imo.
I didn't notice, when Luke went into the bathroom for his weekly crybaby meltdown, did he go into the women's bathroom.
Despite Margie finally acting like a parent and disciplining her ADULT son, there was still too many examples of her enabling and excusing his behavior.
It took Brenchel over 3 hours to finish that detour, it appears that they will try for a desperation flight to catch up. Red-herring or harbinger of doom? If there is a big equalizer they should be safe except for the speedbump.
I'm hoping its Margie and Luke next, I've had about as much of them as I can stomach.
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I'm loving Brendon and Rachel this time around. I hope that they can catch up next week!
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Originally Posted by JenniferP
I'm loving Brendon and Rachel this time around. I hope that they can catch up next week!
Words I thought I'd Never, ever say.....I agree.
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Originally Posted by JenniferP
I'm loving Brendon and Rachel this time around. I hope that they can catch up next week!
I've never truly disliked them, except maybe their first go round on Big Brother. Of course, she's ridiculous in many ways, very dependent on Brendan, and he's blind to a lot of her craziness, but I do think they love each other very much. And they have both matured tons! They showed oodles of patience with those drinks, and couldn't be more supportive of a bratty Luke. She's had a lot of opportunities to break down already this season, and she's kept it together allowing them to get things done.
Luke and Margie are the two I want gone, and after that I don't really dislike anyone. Again with the injury for Dave. Oy...just move on. And I'm really liking the Afghanimals this time around as well (didn't dislike them last season).
Funny how the two who bragged about being able to knock out that drink challenge were ones who had the hardest time.
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I may have missed this before, did we know Connor and Dave were Mormons before last night? Didn't surprise me one bit, though.
I liked that both detour tasks seemed challenging and that a fairly equal number tried them, but I didn't like that it was right to the pit stop after that and little risk of getting lost.
Do you think the teams had the feeling it would be a non-elimination leg? Otherwise I don't get the logic between Margie and Luke trying to convince Brendan and Rachel to take the time penalty. And I agree, I was impressed by "Brenchel" hanging in there and not quitting, and how they tried to calm the crybaby down.
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Originally Posted by PirateLover
I may have missed this before, did we know Connor and Dave were Mormons before last night? Didn't surprise me one bit, though.
I liked that both detour tasks seemed challenging and that a fairly equal number tried them, but I didn't like that it was right to the pit stop after that and little risk of getting lost.
Do you think the teams had the feeling it would be a non-elimination leg? Otherwise I don't get the logic between Margie and Luke trying to convince Brendan and Rachel to take the time penalty. And I agree, I was impressed by "Brenchel" hanging in there and not quitting, and how they tried to calm the crybaby down.
I don't know if they ever mentioned them being Mormon or not, spent too much time on Dave crying all the time and his injury to bring it up during their first short stint. All the emphasis was on father/son cancer survivors.
Unfortunately roadblock to pitstop or detour to pitstop has become more the norm and usually requires no self navigation. I've always liked it when teams have to find at least one more route marker after doing the last detour or roadblock, and then have to navigate themselves. As it is, there is usually very little change in placement from when a team leaves the final task to hitting the finish mat.
I kind of felt like teams maybe knew or strongly suspected. The fact that they didn't equalize teams at the start of the leg, after giving 6 teams big leads, might have been a tip-off.
I don't quite know how to interpret Margie and Luke's asking Brenchel to take the penalty. S22 you had 3 teams agree to quit the 1st leg roadblock (including Jennifer, one of the country singers) and then race to the mat. The firemen were eliminated and the other two teams received 4 hour penalties. I don't know if Margie and Luke were proposing that the two teams simply race to the mat to see who would get eliminated. I think it was just a stupid comment out of frustration of not being able to do the task. I wish they would have taken the four hour penalty, would have been great to see Luke have another meltdown waiting out 4 hours.
They definitely need to go next.
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I'd had more than enough of Margie and Luke about 10 minutes into their first season. Seeing them another 20+ episodes has done nothing to change that feeling. I was really hoping they'd get eliminated last night, even though I kinda knew they wouldn't. I was pretty certain it was a non-elim.
Okay why does Rachel wear panty hose? I mean, as a guy I kinda wish more women would, but I can totally understand why they don't. On Amazing Race, though??? Bizarre!
I don't remember Connor and Dave talking about being Mormon before, but is it just me or does it seem like this happens a lot on TAR? I remember other times (although I can't remember specifics) where all of a sudden people that hadn't mentioned a word about religion or God were dropping down in prayer and praising Jesus all over the place. I feel like the producers have a thing for that for some reason.
The only team I really dislike at this point is Margie and Luke. The Afghanimals and Brenchel have grown on me and I kinda like both of them now.
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