Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains (Premieres February 11)

[pixiesmimi]

I thought going in that Coach would be my host hated villain, but oh no no ... that title goes to Randy. He is just a loathesome human being and I hope he gets voted out ASAP. I can't stand that guy.

I thought last night's ep was good, but I kinda felt like that challenge got a little carried away. I mean when you start dislocating shoulders and breaking toes and intentionally ripping people's clothes off that's a bit much IMO.

I agree on both. I imagine that they figured these are seasoned participants and decided to up the challenge factor but I think it went over the top and they didn't do anything to stop it. Never have they had so many injuries right off the bat. And we have to remember that some of these people are at least 10 years older than they were the last time they competed or at least the first time they competed. I'm rooting for J.T. all the way!

[SBETigg]

Kinda funny ... they approached Richard Hatch to do it, but he couldn't get permission from the courts to break his house arrest long enough to go. Heh heh heh.

I thought going in that Coach would be my host hated villain, but oh no no ... that title goes to Randy. He is just a loathesome human being and I hope he gets voted out ASAP. I can't stand that guy.

I'm sort of torn, though, with allegiances, because two of my favorites (Rob and Russell) are on the villains tribe while some of my other favorites (Stephanie and Rupert) are on the heroes. It's gonna be hard figuring out what tribe to root for.

I like both sides. I like Rob...I hope he's OK. I loved the way he showed up Randy..."you can't start a fire without flint" attitude.

I've got favorites on both sides. I was kinda hoping to get rid of Circe.

I actually wish Hatch was on. Russell will never really know if he's the best without taking on Richard Hatch, in my opinion. But yes, Hatch doesn't exactly deserve to keep coming back considering.

Randy is creepy and off-putting and just ewwww. Awful. I wish they hadn't brought him back. I hope he goes early. I did love Rob showing him up and starting the fire.

And I agreed with the Sugar boot. Even though I liked Sugar well enough, she seemed out of her depth and clingy. So, good riddance. And it's Cirie, not Circe. Cirie.

I might be one of very few people who can't stand Stephenie. The last time she played, she had a really nasty attitude and showed a new side of her that I did not like. I hope she goes home soon, too.

[Greenlawler]

I actually wish Hatch was on. Russell will never really know if he's the best without taking on Richard Hatch, in my opinion. But yes, Hatch doesn't exactly deserve to keep coming back considering.

Randy is creepy and off-putting and just ewwww. Awful. I wish they hadn't brought him back. I hope he goes early. I did love Rob showing him up and starting the fire.

And I agreed with the Sugar boot. Even though I liked Sugar well enough, she seemed out of her depth and clingy. So, good riddance. And it's Cirie, not Circe. Cirie.

I might be one of very few people who can't stand Stephenie. The last time she played, she had a really nasty attitude and showed a new side of her that I did not like. I hope she goes home soon, too.

I agree not a Stephanie fan either...I am

1. Rupert
2. Tom
3. Colby

I do not really care for any of the hero girls. The Villians girls are way more interesting. I used to like Russell but he reminds me too much of one of the most digusting people I have ever met....I realized that I would not be freinds with Russell in real life, there are some people who are just way too good at being devious and that is not a noble trait, game or not...just my opinion.

[MNNHFLTX]

Kinda funny ... they approached Richard Hatch to do it, but he couldn't get permission from the courts to break his house arrest long enough to go. Heh heh heh.

I wondered about that.

I finally watched the episode and thought it was pretty interesting. I've only watched Survivor on and off for the last few years, so it will take me some time to get familiar with some of the players. Having a villains team will be interesting--either they will play brilliantly together or totally implode.

[Melanie]

I did love Rob showing him up and starting the fire.

And I LOVED Colby doing the same thing to Rupert!

[tinkerbelle75]

It's really hard for me to know which team to pull for, because I like people on both teams also. I LOVE J.T. ( he's from around here) and I LOVE Russell and Rob and Rupert. I also really like James. I detest Coach and Randy, so hopefully it won't be long before their torches get extinguished. Loved seeing Rob get that fire started and showing who's boss!

[Ian]

You know it's funny ... I think that, in just the first episode at least, Coach has come off a lot better than he did the first time around.

I actually thought his gushing, "bromance" stuff with Boston Rob was fairly humanizing for him. I found myself if not outright liking the guy, at least maybe not disliking him the way I did previously.

I kinda think Coach is sort of the essence of "misunderstood." He's clearly a very quirky and off-beat guy and I can't help but wonder how much of his "villain" persona is manufactured to make good T.V. I mean the guy's an incredibly accomplished musician, conductor, and he's been a collegiate soccer coach for well over a decade. He can't be all that bad.

[Scar]

I've only watched Survivor on and off for the last few years, so it will take me some time to get familiar with some of the players.

Survior was my only "don't miss / tape" show up until three or four years ago. There's 5 or so people I don't even recognize. I do plan on watching every episode this season.

[SBETigg]

Ian, agreed. I think there's probably a big difference in the way we perceive people in the game, and how they play it, and who they are in life. "Coach" thinks he plays with integrity, and in life, maybe he does. But in Survivor, that comes into question. I think the same goes for the Heroes. I think they're playing the same kind of game out there, but just often viewed in a better light somehow. Almost no one has played the game without lying, double-crossing, or blurring the moral lines somehow. It's a game, and that's how it goes.

The one of maybe a few exceptions is Randy. I could be wrong, but I think he might be just as vile and creepy in life as he seems in the game. Maybe he is just chronically "misunderstood." I hope.

[MNNHFLTX]

You know it's funny ... I think that, in just the first episode at least, Coach has come off a lot better than he did the first time around.

It's interesting you say that, Ian, because even though I did not watch Coach in his first go-round on "Survivor", he is the one player that I am getting the "yuck" vibes on right from the start (sorry, there's no other way to describe it!) I can't imagine what he must have been like on Tocantins.

And just now I had a bit of a start when I was looking on Wikipedia for information about Coach and realized that they already have posted who is eliminated on February 18th! How can they do that??

[Melanie]

And just now I had a bit of a start when I was looking on Wikipedia for information about Coach and realized that they already have posted who is eliminated on February 18th! How can they do that??

Well, you know anyone can post on there, and the information is out there unfortunately. I saw some spoilers a few months back on who made the final 3, but honestly, outside of one, I can't remember who it was.

As for Coach, I've never thought of him as a 'villian', just ridiculous! It's entertaining how delusional he is.

[MNNHFLTX]

Well, you know anyone can post on there, and the information is out there unfortunately. I saw some spoilers a few months back on who made the final 3, but honestly, outside of one, I can't remember who it was.

Of course you're right, Mel, but I was sincerely sorry that I went to that page and saw it. It really does ruin it for the next episode.

[SBETigg]

Yes, the witch is gone! Bye, Stephenie. She couldn't even be gracious on the way out. So full of herself. But James was behaving badly, too. He needs to take it down a notch or two. They may need his strength now, but that's not always enough to put up with someone who divides the team.

And how sad that the villains are working together and seem to be getting along and showing some genuine concern for each other while the heroes can't work together and have all the in-fighting. I want to see them get it together. Good thing Rob was okay. I hate to see them get medical evacuations.

[laprana]

And how sad that the villains are working together and seem to be getting along and showing some genuine concern for each other while the heroes can't work together and have all the in-fighting.

I agree! I thought it would be the reverse -- the villains tribe would be fighting and struggling amongst themselves and the heroes would unite as a team and really work together. It's interesting to see the way it's playing out!

I think James is treading on thin ice right now. He's not going to get far if he keeps the same attitude he had last night. I understand his frustration at losing, but lashing out at your teammates and acting like a bully isn't going to get you far in the game!

I was so glad to see that Rob was OK after his fainting spell. I loved when he said "I was trying to be the good guy and it made me physically sick." So far, he's the one I'm rooting for on the villains tribe. Randy, on the other hand...ugh! Can't wait to see him go.

I wasn't sorry in the least to see Stephenie get sent packing. But, I do hope that Tom and Colby aren't next on the chopping block because they aligned with her.

Does anyone else thing that Tyson has been unusually quiet and docile so far? I keep waiting for him to start with the snide, snarky comments, but nothing really yet.

[MNNHFLTX]

What an interesting tribal council last night! Maybe the Heroes are the ones that will implode, not the Villains!

And sorry to the Rob fans out there, but I found the whole "illness" (or whatever that was) highly over-dramatic, right down to the staged video footage. It was like it was scripted. And for a guy who could barely walk earlier in the day he sure made a quick recovery to compete in the immunity challenge. I do have to hand it to him, though--he and Russell were instrumental in the Villains winning it.

[SBETigg]

Does anyone else thing that Tyson has been unusually quiet and docile so far? I keep waiting for him to start with the snide, snarky comments, but nothing really yet.

I'm sure he has had some funny asides alone with the camera that they just aren't showing us, for whatever reason. He's so under the radar as far as air time that he'll go far, or it could mean he won't be with us long. Or his agent didn't cut as big a deal for him as the others managed to get.

With the All-Stars cast, they all have talent agents who represent their interests and negotiate things like face time on camera and flat fee for appearance, plus extra bonus money depending on how far they get. It's the main reason that I'm not a big fan of All-Star seasons. I think it has some effect on what happens, like Rob's illness- which could easily have been drummed up for extra attention.

[Melanie]

And sorry to the Rob fans out there, but I found the whole "illness" (or whatever that was) highly over-dramatic, right down to the staged video footage. It was like it was scripted. And for a guy who could barely walk earlier in the day he sure made a quick recovery to compete in the immunity challenge.

Amen Beth! Man, he's really getting the 'good' edit this time out.

Sorry, not that anyone cares, but I will never like him.

[MNNHFLTX]

Amen Beth! Man, he's really getting the 'good' edit this time out.

Sorry, not that anyone cares, but I will never like him.

And did you notice he somehow managed to faint with a towel or piece of clothing to cushion his head?

[tinkerbelle75]

I was wondering that , too Beth! I noticed his shoes off, too....he sure is talented to be able to take his shoes off, put a shirt under his head and faint all at the same time!!

[KarenP]

I always liked James but wow, I was not feeling him at all last night! His attitude was awful and it looks as it it continues into next week.

The Villians should be glad to have Rob. he was awesome in that challenge!