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I guess I do consider this line jumping. I just feel the entire family should wait in line together.
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If you don't wait and sweat in the same hot sun as me, you don't deserve the reward. As a poster very early in the thread stated, if you felt you have to ask the uestion, you already know it's not rhe right thing to do. You are basically asking permission to cheat. Why are so many people so bent on finding a way to beat the honor system of being a good Disney fan???
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Originally Posted by spoiledraf
Why are so many people so bent on finding a way to beat the honor system of being a good Disney fan???
Because if they can find a way to justify a reason why one should be allowed to cut in line, they feel they have Carte Blanche to do it when they want.
If I am waiting in line for an attraction, I don't care why one didn't wait with there group, but you don't get in front of me. I don't care if 100 people behind me thought it was ok, I don't so you wait.
I have done it many times and one time I gave the little punk a choice. He could wait behind me or we could have a chat with a park supervisor. I let him know he could explain why he thought he could walk through the line to get to people about to board and complain that I wouldn't let him by me. I suggested if he sided with me, he and his friends could escorted from the park due to what was written on the park map.
I assure you, he stayed behind me and did not ride with his friends.
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Originally Posted by brownie
So would it not be okay wait in two different lines at a counter service restaurant to get the faster line?
I would think it would be okay. It's sort of like getting a fastpass.
Wouldn't a fast pass be great? Come back when it's your turn. How cool would that be?
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I consider it line jumping and rude to the people standing behind you. Sorry
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IN the end I think it boils down to the fact of abuse. If one person goes ahead we are fine with it (well I am not) but if 10 do we get upset. Sadly there really is no gray area here. Either it IS OK or it IS NOT OK. Period.
I have seen a few people use the food and or bathroom as a defense to this logic, but seriously... it does not apply here. We are talking about jumping ques while others obey the rules. Plain and simple. Everyone is equal in WDW and we need to respect that when we wait in lines, from the line jumper to the smoker, etc. Everyone must obey and follow the rules regardless of the inconvenience of it. Sorry that's just how it is.
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Originally Posted by mom2mickeyfan
If I was a single parent I would be offended that 2 parent children would have an advantage over my children since 1 parent would have no way of doing this. A single parent's children would have no choice but to wait in both lines for the full time. I am not a single parent but was raised by a single mom and can see how this could offend a single parent.
The bathroom thing I am alittle more forgiving. As long as you are just running to the rest room and coming straight back. In fact, if there was still lots of time to wait, I wouldn't mind holding the place of a stranger that was in front of me if they had to run their child to the bathroom.
Two parents are also paying twice as much to get in as one parent. If they choose to split up their time, that's their perogative.
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Each person in line = one picture/ one autograph / X amount of time
If you choose to step aside and let your child take your place, it is still one picture / one autograph, same amount of time. PERFECTLY FINE
If you let 5 family members in with you and you all get your picture taken together it is still one picture, but possibly 6 autographs and a little more time. QUESTIONABLE
If you let 5 family member in with you and you all get your picture taken separately it is 6 pictures, 6 autographs and lots more time. RUDE!!!!
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Originally Posted by JRocker
Is it line jumping? Um, yes.
Is it okay? Well, no.
Is it going to bother me? Only if your holding a spot for eight of your relatives. I'm on vacation, I don't let the little stuff bother me.
My thoughts exactly!
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Originally Posted by gerald72
Two parents are also paying twice as much to get in as one parent. If they choose to split up their time, that's their perogative.
WOW!! I am really glad you feel that way. We just went for a grand gathering with 13 adults and 9 kids. It is great to know that since we paid so much more than everyone else that we are allowed to do this!!
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Originally Posted by gerald72
Two parents are also paying twice as much to get in as one parent. If they choose to split up their time, that's their perogative.
That's all fine and good. You may split up your time. However, you are not going to do it at the expense of me.
The rules of line jumping still apply. So basically, for no reason should have the "privilege" of sliding past those who have waited patiently in line while you split your time doing "something else."
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Originally Posted by gerald72
Each person in line = one picture/ one autograph / X amount of time
If you choose to step aside and let your child take your place, it is still one picture / one autograph, same amount of time. PERFECTLY FINE
If you let 5 family members in with you and you all get your picture taken together it is still one picture, but possibly 6 autographs and a little more time. QUESTIONABLE
If you let 5 family member in with you and you all get your picture taken separately it is 6 pictures, 6 autographs and lots more time. RUDE!!!!
This is how I feel about it as well. If you're still doing just one photo and autograph, then it does not really have an effect on my WDW experience.
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I can see both sides of this. On one hand, since it really isn't adding much time to my wait, as it will still be one photo - the few extra seconds of interaction time wouldn't be a big deal. And I tend to be more accepting of place-holding, etc when it comes to kids (I do get frustrated when a whole slew of people do it).
But on the other hand, I can completely understand people being mad about it, and the OP should not be surprised if someone gets upset or speaks up about it.
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There really aren't two sides to this. It is a matter of cutting into a line or not. The reason isn't germane.
It is allowing people who have NOT been standing in line to bypass those who have been. That is line cutting and Disney does not allow it.
I don't do it, my family doesn't do it, I won't allow my children, when they get older to do it, and I resent anybody who feels they have the right to do it because of a "certain situation."
If Disney or any other theme park would actually follow through with there punishment for said offense, one might see less people saying, "well, under these circumstances..."
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WOW, a lot of opinions on this, thats why I left mine out at first just to see what the response was. I have been in both situations. First, I have been in line for a ride when suddenly A LARGE GROUP meets up with their group leader and enters the ride. THATS NOT RIGHT!!! Cast members have defended that action in the past especially if the group was international....but I also feel that the "one picture" idea is realistic. I feel that it is good time management, and to be honest, if Disney was interested in helping me manage my time, more places would be like the character greeting in Epcot. Disneyland is full of these situations were you wait in 1 line to see many characters. However, there are few places like this in WDW. Animal Kingdom would be a great opportunity for this and I have created my own opportunity. Where I draw the line is groups. I would never stand in line and then have 5 or 6 people join me. That is unfair to everyone. But if It is just me, or even my large party, waiting in line and my wife and daughter joins us, then I don't see how that impacts everyone else. We are getting the same amount of pictures regardless.
As far as waiting for a show, one person running ahead to get a spot for a group...unfair.....a group running ahead and saving a spot for wife and daughter to go to the bathroom or grab a drink...should be expected. If you can manage when your children get the "urge" you are not only a better parent than I am, you should work for Disney...
As far as it "being like a fast pass' I agree..you don't get a fast pass and then sit and wait for the time. You get a fast pass and then go to another ride. What's the difference if I am waiting in line while my wife and daughter are at one character, or if they would issue a fast pass and we we all go one character and then return when the fast pass is good. By definition, FAST PASS IS LINE JUMPING!!! its just corporate sponsored line jumping!!!Think about it.
I guess, in the end, its what ever you can live with, and what ever the people around you can live with. I know this, I pay a lot of money, just like everyone else, and I will try to find any way I can to maximize my time. I don't want to disrespect anyone, and I would be the first to graciously let a mom and child go in front of me.
So if you see a guy in full Disney gear waiting in line by himself to see Cinderella, don't assume he's STRANGE, assume his wife and daughter had to "make a run for it"...and don't forget to say HI!...
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The vibes I'm getting from this post is if a child (MAW) was to be offered a chance to get ahead of you on a ride, you would protest and insist that person wait the same amount of time as you. Because for many on here, there are no exceptions.
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I think we can all agree that none of us like to stand in lines. So, while we would all like to find a way to get thru the lines quicker, there is really only one "official" way to do so, and that's using Disney's Fastpass. Any other way, is considered (by most) to be rude or at the least, an unfair advantage that creates animosity.
So, if I may coin a phrase, "If you can't do the time, don't get in line". Sorry, couldn't help myself,
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Originally Posted by ChristineC68
I would consider that line jumping.
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Every time this subject comes up, the passion swells....I understand "Time Management", but in general, it is a zero sum game...if you save 5 minutes, someone else has lost 5 minutes.....If you do not consider others, you are, by definition, inconsiderate of others.
I have smiled, and let families join up, and have glared (My kids and grandkids know the look) when DH uses his elbow to pass one of my grandkids, so he and junior can catch up with other family members. There was a time when the CM's quickly reacted to blatant line jumping, but now, they generally look the other way. I will say, IMHO, rudeness has become more common over the years. And because rudeness is so common, many rude people no longer consider their actions rude.
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