DVC Reallocates Points for 2010

[Maleficent's Dad]

I got this from another website (I won't post the link, but want to give credit). I confirmed the info at DVCMember.com.

Any feelings folks???
I'm not sure... yet...
I used to like the weekday reduced rates.
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Written by Tim Krasniewski
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 06:50PM
For just the second time in its 18 year history, Disney Vacation Club has taken steps to reallocate the points charts for existing DVC resorts. The result--more expensive trips for those who favor Sunday - Thursday stays.

According to a notice posted to [snip], the weekend point values have been decreased with corresponding increases in the Sunday to Thursday nightly point values. DVC's statement suggests that the weekly values have remained largely intact, but members who are accustomed to economical weekday stays may find their vacations costing more points beginning in 2010.

A review of the new points charts revealed the following:

Beach Club Villas / One Bedroom / Choice Season
2009: 24 points per weekday, 47 poins per weekend
2010: 27 points per weekday, 38 points per weekend

A Sunday to Thursday stay in the above accommodation will cost 15 more points in 2010 than it did in 2009--an increase of 12.5%.

Legally it is within Disney Vacation Club's rights to make these changes. As long as the annual point totals for a single resort unit (room or group of rooms) does not change, the weekly values and seasons are subject to change.

DVC previously reallocated the points charts in the mid-90s. The prior adjustment had the opposite effect with weekday stays declining in cost and weekends increasing.

The 2010 points charts can now be found on DVCMember.com and will be posted to DVCNews.com shortly.

Official statement follows.


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Disney Vacation Club adjusts 2010 Vacation Points charts
To help address a growing Member interest in weekend stays at Disney Vacation Club Resorts, Disney Vacation Club has adjusted 2010 Vacation Points charts, reducing Vacation Point requirements for Friday and Saturday nights.

In addition to better reflecting the changes in Members' vacationing patterns, the adjusted charts make accommodations more affordable during many popular Walt Disney World® events, such as Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party and ESPN The Weekend.

To make this change possible, Vacation Point requirements for some instances of Sunday-Thursday stays are now higher. However, a full week's stay will essentially cost the same amount of Vacation Points as before.

To view the adjusted Vacation Points charts, click on the "View Vacation Points Charts" link in the "Plan My Vacation" section of this Web site (located on the right side of the page).

[wendy*darling]

Interesting...
and I think I like it.

It may eliminate the need for us to move for Fri & Sat stays.
While I do enjoy hitting a Value or Mod once in awhile, I am sure that many people "bail out" on Fridays and Saturdays like we do, leaving a much lower occupancy.

I might be more inclined to stay put (which is what they want- I'm sure ).

[DizneyRox]

First thought, I'm not too upset about it. I've always liked quick weekend getways, and this might help those. As long as the weekly point costs don't change, I really don't care, it's a wash for my big trips. If anything it will lower my costs, since I can sta y for two weekends instead of having to bail to a new resort, or use up precious points.

[lockedoutlogic]

it's a good move....

the sun-thurs thing is a loophole that has been slammed shut by overcrowding at certain locations.....redistribution of points is a logical way to stem some of that overcrowding...

[Ian]

I like it. We typically have avoided weekend stays because of the astronomical point costs. Now we won't have to move resorts for Friday/Saturday night stays.

Interesting, though ... someone check my math here using the BCV example provided ...

Previously, a 7 night stay from Saturday to Saturday would have cost 120 points for the five weeknights (24 x 5) and 94 points for the two weekend nights (47 x 2). That's a total of 214 points.

In 2010, it would be 135 points for the five weeknights (27 x 5) and 76 points for the two weekend nights (38 x 2). A total of 211 points. 3 points less than previous.

How does that work? Does that mean it became more expensive in other seasons to stay? Or for other room categories?

I'm not as familiar with the rules for reallocating points as I should be.

[Sunshine1010]

I usually go from a Tuesday to the next week's Friday....so basically, only 1 weekend. I'm assuming this will now be more points for me.

[sillyolbear]

We have tended to be Sunday-Thursday people and I'll be glad to have the change.

[VWL Mom]

Interesting, though ... someone check my math here using the BCV example provided ...

Previously, a 7 night stay from Saturday to Saturday would have cost 120 points for the five weeknights (24 x 5) and 94 points for the two weekend nights (47 x 2). That's a total of 214 points.

In 2010, it would be 135 points for the five weeknights (27 x 5) and 76 points for the two weekend nights (38 x 2). A total of 211 points. 3 points less than previous.

Same for VWL. The charts are gone from DVCMember but I did find them on another site. 2Bdrm Choice is now 282, listed as 279 for 2010.

[DisneyWhirled]

I think it is a good move.

We often come in on a Friday or Saturday and we stay through the next weekend. We use our points for our entire stay. It is our preference not to have to move during a vacation.

Now, I won't feel so guilty about not moving and using DVC points for the weekends!

While I am not a re-allociation expert, I would think that as long as the points for the week do not go up, they are within the rights to modify the nightly points.

[Seasonscraps]

What happens to mid-week vacations that are already reserved? Will they adjust the points you need based on the new tables or will you only be charged the points you used at the time you made the reservation? I'm going to have to give them a call.

[VWL Mom]

I don't think the first 2010 res can be made until Feb 1 (11 months out). I could be wrong.

[Ian]

I usually go from a Tuesday to the next week's Friday....so basically, only 1 weekend. I'm assuming this will now be more points for me.

If you look at my example above, that may not be the case.

[wendy*darling]

What happens to mid-week vacations that are already reserved? Will they adjust the points you need based on the new tables or will you only be charged the points you used at the time you made the reservation? I'm going to have to give them a call.

We are not 11 months out from Jan 1 yet- so no one will be affected.

[Seasonscraps]

I'm a dope - I didn't pay attention to the effective dates. Thanks.

[dlpmikki]

Interesting - on the DVC site now is this message:

On January 21 a version of the 2010 Vacation Point Charts was incorrectly posted. An updated version will be made available within the next week. Members with valid email addresses on record will receive an email when the new charts are available. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.


I wonder if they got their sums wrong for the total of number of points per year?

[Raye3201]

I wondered that too...if the sums were incorrect in the first posting of the points as some weeks went down while others went up. I thought the points for weeks had to stay the same?!

[Maleficent's Dad]

I thought the points for weeks had to stay the same?!

Not necessarily...
It's complicated - but Disney can make weeks more expensive (point-wise) as long as during another part of the year, point use goes down. They can change seasons, reallocate points, and shift things around to their liking... But the overall point useage for the year has to come out even.

[Raye3201]

Ahhh...I get it now! Thanks for explaining!

[Aurora]

Not necessarily...
It's complicated - but Disney can make weeks more expensive (point-wise) as long as during another part of the year, point use goes down. They can change seasons, reallocate points, and shift things around to their liking... But the overall point useage for the year has to come out even.

Yes, it's a weird thing that they have to have the same number of points per year, because theoretically that means they can charge 1000 points for a studio during Christmas week as long as they lower points during some other part of the year.

Not that they ever will, but it's something to know.

[DizneyFreak2002]

Not necessarily...
It's complicated - but Disney can make weeks more expensive (point-wise) as long as during another part of the year, point use goes down. They can change seasons, reallocate points, and shift things around to their liking... But the overall point useage for the year has to come out even.

Ahh, that's how it works... Thanks... I was thinking how could they raise points per night when they state they won't ever raise them, that they stay the same... It is actually thr TOTAL amount of points per week/year.. Gotcha.. Makes sense to me now..