Just got back...line etiquette questions

[em-n-mia's-mommy]

I just got back a few hours ago and was pondering something. We were standing in line in the Magic Kingdom for the Tommorrowland Speedway.

As we were standing in line for several minutes we had 6 people pass us in line to get in front of us to be with two people who were standing right in front of us. Then to top, as I am giving this lady a look like "what in the heck are you doing?", she says to me "I am not passing you because we are with this party of two people in front of you!". I was like ummm yeah that is line jumping. So I was a bit annoyed at this point.

Then we get up to get onto the ride and I tell the CM that they jumped us in line. He thought it was because he let two other people that were with them ahead of us to keep their party together. I said no they passed us wayyy back there. He says oh okay but i am trying to keep the partys together. Well he assigns us our cars, and our party of 4 people got separated.

This is not the first time during the trip that we had people passing us in line going i am with so and so up there. This was just the most extreme. Had it been one person I do not think I would have minded, but 6! It was my thought that this was line jumping, but who knows I could be wrong. So what in your opinion is line etiquette?

[CaptainJessicaSparrow]

Sadly, we are taught not to interfere or say anything.

Why?

Because the cutting guests will go to Guest Relations and complain about how rude the CM's are and you know what will happen? They'll get attraction re-entry passes for their entire party and probably extra.

Yeah, it stinks. Yes, it's unfair. The best thing you can do is go to Guest Relations yourself and tell them how ridiculous the whole thing is. At Universal, you cut in line and you get kicked out of the park.

[ojeilatan]

I'm sorry to hear that! Unfortunately, there are always some willing to ruin the magic of Disney just to make their trip a tiny bit quicker.
I have to agree with the above post - it's most likely what would have happened. Just know you are better then those people, and didn't ruin someone's day!

[CleveSJM]

Disney must learn to deal with this. The CM can yell back to the line, "Did these people cut?" and when 50 irrate "good" guests yell "YES!" it should be documented and that CM rewarded. Yes, rewarded for making 50 guests happy and the bad guests disciplined.

How does Universal do it?

We had the same thing happen at TSM. About 10 people joined up with 4. Not cool. The rule should be 1 adult or 1 adult and 2 under 10 year olds at most allowed to "catch up" to others in line. And I say rule specifically. Not a guideline, a hard rule.

Until this happens, everyone go to Guest Relations an complain. Get the re-entry passes and extra. Then they'll realize the problem...

PS - Line cutting and smoking in the public areas are the biggest reasons "I'm grumpy because "you're" dopey." :-)

[WeLuvBuzz]

Just a thought, but what if the people in line just said to the would be line jumpers I am sorry, but I will not allow you to pass me as I have waited in line to be at this point and you have not. Perhaps in the future you should wait to get in line for an attraction when your whole party is ready.

As a side note, we travel to the world quite frequently as a party of 8 to 10. As I have the world's smallest bladder I make quite a few pit stops. We either all get in line together or meet up at the end. One time we were in line for pirates and this couple in bride and groom ears worked their way ahead of about 50 people. With those ears on it was really obvious and the whole line was talking about how rude they were. It was really obnoxious.

[BigRedDad]

Busch Gardens in Virginia has a cutting policy when I was there last Summer. They escorted you out of the park. They didn't throw you out, but you had to go back and re-enter. It is a nice waste of about 30 minutes and to the back of any line when you get to a ride.

In this situation, the two people should have let others pass until the rest of the party caught up. Unfortunately, our society no longer expects, teaches, or represents RESPECT. We are in a ME generation. It is going to get drastically worse until it gets better. I think this recession or depression we are headed towards will hopefully change this social injustice.

One other thing, this is a perfect opportunity to provide your children and other children around you with a life lesson. In a voice loud enough for everyone around you to hear and the violators to hear, teach them that it is disrespectful to cut in line. Tell them the proper thing to do is wait for the entire party before entering or have the people ahead wait until the rest of the party reaches them. The public embarrassment to the violators will be funny and the others around you that agree will applaud you for it.

[Marker]

I agree, it can be absolutely maddening. However, in the scope of things, being push back 2 or 3 ride vehicles is not really worth getting so worked up you lose your "happy" for the day, or you start a fight of some sort.

Unfortunately "Stupid" people are everywhere. Regardless of what Disney does or doesn't do, or what people do or don't do, to me it is probably more important to not let it ruin your day.

And don't fall victim to the temptation to think "well if they can do it, then I can do it". or "I'll show them". The result will likely be consequences directed towards you and you'll end up really ruining your day.

[wdwfansince75]

Thanks to Fast Pass, and avoiding the Speedway, I don't experience it as much as I once did...however, was once in line for Speedway with one of my DGD's....heard some commotion behind me, and saw a couple of teenagers joining some of their friends.....paused where I was, and waved to the people immediately behind them to join me....had about 12 people "join me" by passing the line junpers and their friends....hope I made a point!

[MickeysEars]

I would probably just do the "children, don't ever do what hese rude people are doing" and then wait. Who whats to end up in a "Tea Cup" brawl...if you know what I mean. It is not worth ruining your trip over. I would be devestated to have my children witness a fight over a spot in line, but would go as far as to point out to them how wrong it is.

[dixielandings]

I agree with Marker. This is an annoying situation and it's very rude and inconsiderate to think it's perfectly fine for 1 person to hold a place in line for 12. BUT people are people and when you have to share public space like WDW with so many of them at once, bad behaviour is to be expected. My buttons get pushed repeatedly at the Parks and I have worked on my own patience so that I won't let my day be ruined by anyone! I wish and hope that Disney can come up with a policy that will regulate these kinds of things - rules help people! - but meantime, try to grin and bear it. Or better yet, grin and ignore it.

[dizney4me]

Have been a reader on this site for years and years without ever registering, but I just had to weigh in on this one.

I'm certain that more often than not, when people jump in line it is nothing more than rudeness. There can be another possibility, though.

In my family there are three people (out of our group of five) who have serious medical issues requiring them to stay out of the sun. When we are stuck in an outdoor line, they have to go sit somewhere in the shade until I reach a point in line which is out of the sun, then come join up with me. To look at them, they all appear completely healthy, so I'm sure people have been annoyed at their "line jumping."

Again, I know this is not the case for many people who cut in line. But when someone jumps ahead of me, I do try to remind myself that there's at least a possibility it's for a medical reason. It may not be the case, but it does help me keep my cool and enjoy my vacation much more!

[Diznee4Me]

Have been a reader on this site for years and years without ever registering, but I just had to weigh in on this one.

I'm certain that more often than not, when people jump in line it is nothing more than rudeness. There can be another possibility, though.

In my family there are three people (out of our group of five) who have serious medical issues requiring them to stay out of the sun. When we are stuck in an outdoor line, they have to go sit somewhere in the shade until I reach a point in line which is out of the sun, then come join up with me. To look at them, they all appear completely healthy, so I'm sure people have been annoyed at their "line jumping."

Again, I know this is not the case for many people who cut in line. But when someone jumps ahead of me, I do try to remind myself that there's at least a possibility it's for a medical reason. It may not be the case, but it does help me keep my cool and enjoy my vacation much more!

Great response, welcome to Intercot!, and awesome screen name!

[MississippiDisneyFreak]

We had to put up with this on our last trip too and though I agree sometimes the people may have a problem that isn't visible...the poster said 6 people joined a party of 2....I doubt 6 people all had medical problems that weren't apparent...its just plain out rudeness.....I have seen people wait in line while Grandma and a small tot sit to the side and then join right before entrance and that doesn't bother me, its understandable....

[dumbo_buddy]

i have to admit something....

i cut the line this past weekend.

i'm sorry! i didn't realize i was cutting! DH and i decided to go on the teacups for the first time ever! we couldn't find the line. there was a gate/door/whatever you call it that was open and there was a CM standing there. so we just walked in. he didn't say anything. i just figured that was the entrance.

anywho, after the ride i realized that we had entered thru the exit. the ride wasn't even filled up so i'm pretty sure there wasn't anyone who didn't get on b/c of us.

but i still felt bad. and dumb.

there, i said it. off my chest. sorry!

[RBrooksC]

I have made "kids" move behind me if they want to cut. It was at Six Flags in NJ. These kids wanted to meet up with their friends ahead of me but they couldn't get by me. I told them I waited in the line 20 minutes and there was no way in hell they were getting in front of me. When they said but their friends were in front of me, I said they were welcome to come back behind me. When he protested more, I suggested that we go together to a park employee and discuss the possibility of him cutting into a line and let them decide who gets kicked out of the park. The child was ****** but he didn't get in front of me.

I abhor cutting in line. You want to be in line as a group or family? Then you WAIT OUTSIDE THE LINE!! So sad, too bad that the wait is getting worse, you need to make a decision, get that Dole Whip or go to the bathroom before or after the ride.

[Darbylew]

First of all I would like to Welcome Disney4me
to Intercot. You will love it
here.
We have had people pass us to get with their
party before. I really don't like it but I never
say anything. It is just as well to let them pass
and just chalk it up as rude. We are there for
the Magic and to have a good time so we don't
let that spoil it for us.
BEEN THERE, DONE THAT AND GOING BACK IN
19 DAYS!!!!!!!!!

[TheDuckRocks]

I agree, it can be absolutely maddening. However, in the scope of things, being push back 2 or 3 ride vehicles is not really worth getting so worked up you lose your "happy" for the day, or you start a fight of some sort.

Unfortunately "Stupid" people are everywhere. Regardless of what Disney does or doesn't do, or what people do or don't do, to me it is probably more important to not let it ruin your day.

And don't fall victim to the temptation to think "well if they can do it, then I can do it". or "I'll show them". The result will likely be consequences directed towards you and you'll end up really ruining your day.

Marker, I couldn't agree with you more! It always amazes me at the things that people let "ruin" their time at Disney.

[Faver]

Wow... this is a very serious subject. I don't think many people, including myself consider it "line jumping", when you pass a couple of people to catch up to your party.

The last time we were at MK, we were there for EMH in the evening. The line to get into the main gate was large, but bearable. Our party of 4, got seperated with the rush going through the turnstiles. The 2 people ahead of us thought we were right behind them, ends up that were weren't. When we finally caught up about 30 seconds later, they were in line to get EMH wristbands. My DH and I walked up and all started laughing at the fact, we basically go swept up in a wave of people. All of a sudden there's a women yelling in my ear "You cut, know fair, no cutting!!!" I turned to her and said, "No ma'am, this is our party, we just got accidentally seperated by the turnstiles. She kept yelling " No cutting!!"

Remember, this was a line for an attraction, just a line for a wristband, and since our party was 2 older kids and 2 adults, you'd think she'd understand.

I personally think, that's absurd!!!

I've seen people do exactly the same thing and haven't yelled at them for doing so. You don't know what's happening in another person's party. Maybe someone had to use the bathroom, perhaps there is illness, or in our case, being seperated and pushed forward due to the crowd levels.

Relax.... is it really that crucial!!!! You're on Vacation!!!

[RBrooksC]

I've seen people do exactly the same thing and haven't yelled at them for doing so. You don't know what's happening in another person's party. Maybe someone had to use the bathroom, perhaps there is illness, or in our case, being seperated and pushed forward due to the crowd levels.

Relax.... is it really that crucial!!!! You're on Vacation!!!

If that is the case and somebody needs to use the restroom or get a tasty beverage, then YOU ALL WAIT. Don't get into a line and expect your party to catch up. You should always be only as fast as your slowest person. If your slowest person means you have to wait to get into line, then DO SO.

Don't think you have the right to get in front of me when I have standing idle in a slow moving line because you decided to do something else and your party didn't want to wait for you.

[SBETigg]

I think the example the OP described is definitely line-cutting and the wrong thing to do. The exception would be with a small child needing the bathroom, or perhaps special circumstances that don't seem to be the case here with your example.

We have also encountered large parties who seem to operate under the logic that one or two people can get in line early and then the rest of the party can join them. Like Marker, we don't let it bother us at WDW, but I agree that it is poor line etiquette.