Patriots and Running Up the Score

[Tiggerdog]

As a Bronco fan ( I can still name every player from the 1978 Superbowl team ), I feel the need to chime in on the Bronco - Charger game:

The Broncos deserved it. They needed a good kick in the rear. I did not hear one person complain about the Chargers running up the score, and I work with even bigger Broncomaniacs than I am. While we haven't given up on the team this year, we have been very disappointed by the play on the field and the behaviors off the field.

And may I add, why did I pass up Brady in our Fantasy Football league?

[battlefield2freak]

The Colts haven't had to say anything. They don't have people looking to take them down or making threads about how it's so unfair that they score points in a game. Even as defending champs, they don't have the same kind of Superbowl record in recent years to bring out the haters.

You didn't jump out to accuse the Colts of the same thing in week one, when they kept on scoring against a defeated New Orleans 41-10. And not a word when San Diego handed Denver their most lopsided home loss since '66, 41-3. But the Patriots keep on scoring and it's a big terrible thing to do? I agree that it did seem a bit much and the Redskins were clearly outplayed, but wouldn't it have been insulting for the Patriots to give anything less than their best on the field?

thank you for pointing out that game with the colts just racketing up points agaisnt new orleans. i watched that game yesterday and they didnt run the score up. first of all the brought brady out of the game as usual and like they said on MNF countdown you dont just stop and give washington the ball. yes the patriots could have gone for the shut out by keeping brady in the game but no they brought him out and put cassel in which allowed the washington TD.

and they arent running the ball very much lately for a big reason. maroney is coming off groin injury, morris just suffered a chest injury so tats basically or running game. also what aout the defense? 3 forced fumbles (1 returned for a TD) and 1 INT aslo complimented by 3 sacks so stop targeing only the offense when the defense are stoping them every down amost. as a side note 17 pts. off those fumbles

im really under the impression many people on intercot just hate the patriots and will be as nasty as they can be to their fans and i dont appreciate that at all. you all need to understand that just because there is a football team that knows how to get the job done on both sides of the ball and dominate teams because they have some of the best players in the NFL dont get mad at us fans if you got a complaint take it to the NFL not here so stop trying to bring up the same old stuff again and again.

[dolphinmickey9170]

thank you for pointing out that game with the colts just racketing up points agaisnt new orleans. i watched that game yesterday and they didnt run the score up. first of all the brought brady out of the game as usual and like they said on MNF countdown you dont just stop and give washington the ball. yes the patriots could have gone for the shut out by keeping brady in the game but no they brought him out and put cassel in which allowed the washington TD.

im really under the impression many people on intercot just hate the patriots and will be as nasty as they can be to their fans and i dont appreciate that at all. you all need to understand that just because there is a football team that knows how to get the job done on both sides of the ball and dominate teams because they have some of the best players in the NFL dont get mad at us fans if you got a complaint take it to the NFL not here

Well said Austin!!

[battlefield2freak]

Well said Austin!!

thank you very much. because nohing gets under my skin more then haters. i can go on for days and thats only what i was able to say in a few minutes of furious typing. for one there is no proof of running up the score at all so thats what really sets me off when people can go out and make allegations of running the score up with no proof then adding fuel to my fire making direct hateful atacks on me and the other patriots fans jsut for defending our favoite team which just so happens to be beating everyone else in the NFL and are on a course to win superbowl and the only team that can heavily contest a patriot win would be the colts. when i first heard the schedule this year i thought it would be chargers, cowboys, colts, ravens but things have been turned around drastically. just so you get the point, ME nor any other patriot fan on the intercot site appreciates how you all can make all these comments on us but when we defend outrself a mod tells us to calm down ad not a thing was done about the personal attack toward us.

[PirateLover]

battlefield2freak- I'm sorry, but you are overreacting. First of all, I just went back and re-read this entire thread. I think that almost everyone has gone out of their way to say that they are not attacking Pats fans. This is a sports board and we are debating the practices of the team and the organization, not the fans. In fact almost every single one of us has said we LIKED the Pats, but question their tactics this year. Is the spotlight on them more? Of COURSE it is! How can it not be with the cheating scandal, and Belichick's smug attitude the whole season. But Ian DID give examples of why he thought they ran up the score. Please quote all of these "hateful" attacks that you speak of because I only saw maybe one or two posts in the entire thread that might be considered hateful, and one poster even came back on later and clarified their statements. So I take offense to you labeling us all as nasty haters just because we have something negative to say about your favorite team, because I see no evidence of that.

[JPL]

ME nor any other patriot fan on the intercot site appreciates how you all can make all these comments on us but when we defend outrself a mod tells us to calm down ad not a thing was done about the personal attack toward us.

Nobody has attacked Patriot fans in this thread they attacked the organization and it's questionable practices this season. I did not see a personal attack on you or any other Pats fan. If you feel you have been please point it out to me and I will look at the post.
Do I hate the Patriots? not really and I really have nothing against their fans. I have to say that being a Giant Fan I was always routing for Belicek since he did help us win a Superbowl. But I have lostll my respect for him and the organization as a whole after the action this season.

Look at this way Pats fan are now in the same league as Yankee, Cowboys and basically any other team that has been successful and done something controversial.

[DizneyFreak2002]

Battlefield, I had a post removed in the Red Sox thead, and it was rightfully removed.... I read this thread and saw no attacks on the Patriots fans... But, after getting caught, how can someone not question Belichik??? He has never displayed any class... Even when he resigned as "HC" of the Jets.... The mods do a great job on this board.... If they saw something that attacked you, or the fans, they would have removed it...

[JPL]

Moderator Note:

Let's get this discussion back on topic please. Just remember people have differing opinions on the subject at hand and as far as I can see it has been discussed very respectfully. Let's not head down a road where this topic has to be closed.

[Maleficent's Dad]

Okay, while I don't agree with it entirely, ESPN is now coming to the defense of Belichick. Here's one of the "articles" posted by Matt Mosley on ESPN's website. I believe it was written in jest!

League To Discuss Pats Mercy Rule
October 29, 2007 2:31 PM

In order to protect teams from Bill Belichick, the league is considering a rule that would prevent the Patriots from throwing passes longer than five yards once they gain a four-touchdown lead.

If the opposing team makes it a three-score game, the Patriots would be allowed to file an appeal for "more creative routes," but receivers Randy Moss and Wes Welker are no longer allowed to be on the field together in the second half.

League officials hope the new rule, dubbed "The Other Brady Bill," will provide more acceptable final scores, and improve the self-esteem of players across the league.

[JPL]

I understand it was written in jest but making a joke of it also doesn't help the situation. I believe it actually makes it worse.

[Maleficent's Dad]

I understand it was written in jest but making a joke of it also doesn't help the situation. I believe it actually makes it worse.

Sorry Jeff, I was just trying to lighten the mood here!

[JPL]

Sorry misunderstood I thought ESPN worte it in Jest I know they sometimes do things like especially in the editorials. This is what happens when you are posting half asleep at work during a boring day

[Ian]

Folks, there's a big difference between criticizing a team's behavior (which is what's being done here) and personal attacks or attacks on their fans (which has not occurred here).

My suggestion is if you don't want to read negative things about your team, don't read a thread called "Patriots and Running Up the Score." or any other thread with a similar title.

I will say that if anyone can point out a personal attack, on either side, in this thread, I or one of the other forum mods will gladly address it.

Lastly ... this is the Sports forum. As has been mentioned many times previously, the rules are a little different in here than they are on the rest of our boards.

Again ... if you don't want to play by the modified rules, don't visit this board.

[caryrae]

All I can say is "GO VIKINGS

Oh wait my teams is only 2 and 5. I guess I don't have to worry about them running up the score.

[battlefield2freak]

battlefield2freak- I'm sorry, but you are overreacting. First of all, I just went back and re-read this entire thread. I think that almost everyone has gone out of their way to say that they are not attacking Pats fans. This is a sports board and we are debating the practices of the team and the organization, not the fans. In fact almost every single one of us has said we LIKED the Pats, but question their tactics this year. Is the spotlight on them more? Of COURSE it is! How can it not be with the cheating scandal, and Belichick's smug attitude the whole season. But Ian DID give examples of why he thought they ran up the score. Please quote all of these "hateful" attacks that you speak of because I only saw maybe one or two posts in the entire thread that might be considered hateful, and one poster even came back on later and clarified their statements. So I take offense to you labeling us all as nasty haters just because we have something negative to say about your favorite team, because I see no evidence of that.

no im including the thread over the cheating scandal from week 1 against the jets, and there is more examples than that aswell. and why do we need to show the mods these hateful attacks its your job to find them isnt it? and i read this because this involves my favorite team. you would read the same thing if the title was htis for example "(insert fav. team here) and Running Up the Score" now wouldnt you

[Epc0tphr34k]

let me solve the mystery. I am sure austin is referencing my observations of NE sports fans in general in the previous post. pretty sure i was also spoken to by one of the mods in a PM about the comment. also believe that i stated it was not directed at anyone here

let me also say i appologise for anything i said in the past it was not meant to offend was meerly an observation

[battlefield2freak]

let me solve the mystery. I am sure austin is referencing my observations of NE sports fans in general in the previous post. pretty sure i was also spoken to by one of the mods in a PM about the comment. also believe that i stated it was not directed at anyone here

let me also say i appologise for anything i said in the past it was not meant to offend was meerly an observation

well yes i was reffering to that and something else. i just realized why is everyone complaining about this when the nfl hasnt even said a thing.

one observation u can make from that game was the redskins kept giving the patriots the ball and they was playing with a new QB so this really wasnt a big surprise to see them rout the redskins. when you get the ball your intentions are to score points even if you are out in the lead.

[Epc0tphr34k]

one observation u can make from that game was the redskins kept giving the patriots the ball and they was playing with a new QB so this really wasnt a big surprise to see them rout the redskins. when you get the ball your intentions are to score points even if you are out in the lead.

given. i don't think anyone expected the skins to beat the patriots. its more of a respect thing however you don't dial up a homerun ball kinda pass when you are up that far. You let the other team attempt to keep some dignity. we're not saying they should't beat them. its more of saying you don't kick a man when he is down. and as i said in the last post had the eagles or the buccs smuggly tried to run up the score i would be ashamed to say i was a fan. You pointed out earlier how well the Defense was doing well if you are that confident in your defense you can run the ball with your 3rd string guy just to kill clock that is more of what is being said than they should have put on the breaks. and there are several sports reporters showing disdain for the act as well.

you would prolly be surprised to know i cheered for the pats in 2 of their 3 superbowls and also the only team i hate and will cheer for under no circumstances is the skins. it made me sick when laverneus coles was there because he is one of my favorite players

[battlefield2freak]

given. i don't think anyone expected the skins to beat the patriots. its more of a respect thing however you don't dial up a homerun ball kinda pass when you are up that far. You let the other team attempt to keep some dignity. we're not saying they should't beat them. its more of saying you don't kick a man when he is down. and as i said in the last post had the eagles or the buccs smuggly tried to run up the score i would be ashamed to say i was a fan. You pointed out earlier how well the Defense was doing well if you are that confident in your defense you can run the ball with your 3rd string guy just to kill clock that is more of what is being said than they should have put on the breaks. and there are several sports reporters showing disdain for the act as well.

you would prolly be surprised to know i cheered for the pats in 2 of their 3 superbowls and also the only team i hate and will cheer for under no circumstances is the skins. it made me sick when laverneus coles was there because he is one of my favorite players

well i dont think anyone picked them either. but the one person that lit the fuse for me is that redskin who was mad at belichick beacuse he was just doing his job and they are geting paid to stop the patriots and vice versa and there was plenty of times washington could have stoped the patriots around the end when they brought brady out

[Ian]

and i read this because this involves my favorite team. you would read the same thing if the title was htis for example "(insert fav. team here) and Running Up the Score" now wouldnt you

No one is begrudging you the right to read the thread.

What I am begrudging you is the right to read the thread and then get so angry that some people hold these opinions about your team that you flip out. If you can't handle justifiable criticism of your team then you need to avoid these threads.

And just to be clear ... I reviewed this entire thread and saw not one post that I considered a personal attack. That's why I asked you to point them out to me.