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Didn't we discuss this incident before? I remember a HOP Bush bashing thread a while back.
Because of that, I did mention that on opening day of the new HOP, I noticed there didn't seem to be any type of disturbance during the naming of the presidents (Bush or Obama, or even Nixon, or Clinton, or whoever). Which I found encouraging...
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Originally Posted by KAJUNKING
Since i just read the rude people in the hm thread, i thought id start my own gripe. Last September while watching the hall of presidents with my dw dd9 and ds7, they were naming all of the presidents and when they got to George W Bush some people in the audience started booing , only for a second though because the whole place erupted into clapping . I just don't get it, all politics aside he is the President of the United States and no matter how you feel about him he still deserves respect, no matter my political leanings or my personal approval of a certain president i would never boo his name anywhere much less an attraction in wdw!
Nope, he WAS...past tense...we have a new Commander in Chief last time I checked.
You have to admit last Sept. was a politically charged time, right before the election, tensions and opinions were high.
But your right, it was tacky....any form of booing anywhere is terribly negative and tacky.
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That is so annoying! Don't people realize they are animatronics? What good does it do to boo them? Why do people have to ruin the experience for everyone?
I love HoP,it one of my favorite attractions, because I love American History. I would be so mad if were ruined for me like that.
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Disney's not immune to people acting and behaving badly. Line jumping, cursing in front of children, jumping in front of you at the parade, plopping down in the middle of the theater...I've witnessed all of these over the years.
All you can do is show a good example for your kids or those around you and try to ignore the rest.
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A friend of mine once told me, "It is what it is." No matter what/where/or who, there is always somebody who likes or dislikes something. It's silly to boo animatronics, I agree. But isn't the foundation of what our country was built on...the basic right to express our opinion. Unfortunately it is normally at the expense of others. We love HoP and the history behind. I get goose bumps when they all come to life. At the cost of getting smacked by DW, I have told rude people to be quiet at this exhibit, in particular. If they would be quiet and listen, they may just learn something this time around, it's obvious most didn't the first time..or they wouldn't be so rude.
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Originally Posted by KAJUNKING
all politics aside he is the President of the United States and no matter how you feel about him he still deserves respect
I don't think people should boo at WDW and this reflects not at all on my feelings about GWB, but I couldn't disagree more with this statement.
Simply getting elected president doesn't automatically mean someone earns the respect of the electorate. In fact, given the considerable power a president has, his actions can easily earn him a great deal of disrespect should he seriously cause harm to the country. I don't have respect for James Buchanan, for example, because of the atrocious administration he ran (I'll put enough time between us and a bad president so as not to enflame passions!).
Normally I have respect for ministers, to use an analogy, but would not respect a minister who was stealing from the church coffers...simply because he had the title of "minister."
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I've never seen or understood the point of publicly bashing any President. It's fair to express an opinion or perspective in the appropriate environment, but boo'ing or bashing just seems silly. I mean...the President does represent all of us (US citizens, that is). And he was elected by all of us. Yes...even if you didn't personally vote for him, he still was elected by the nation as a whole - and we are all a part of that. So you are in effect "boo'ing" yourself, the country, and the electoral process that brought the president into office. By publicly bashing him, you are effectively criticizing everyone who did vote for him - and to a degree, everyone who didn't vote at all. So that would be the majority of any general sampling of the population.
I would think that it would be possible that the people who were boo'ing were not US citizens, which means that they are exempt from the criteria above....but that would just make them rude guests.
What I am happy about is that the crowd recognized the situation and started clapping - probably not for GWB, but more in opposition to the boo'ing. I am glad to see that we are generally better behaved and that the rude people are the exception!
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I think bashing a President is wrong, but criticism of a president and his policies is what this country is about. If you do not agree with what they are doing, the constitution gives us the right to voice our opinions. And frankly, I would not want it any other way.
However, I don't think Disney and booing is the proper place to do so.
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Originally Posted by Mendelson
I don't have respect for James Buchanan, for example, because of the atrocious administration he ran (I'll put enough time between us and a bad president so as not to enflame passions!).
So now I finally know the identity of the scallywag who booed James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson on our last trip to the HOP.
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I noticed it too...
I guess that might mean something.
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Some people are just plain low-lives. If you disrespect a president to that extent, you are ONLY disrespecting your country and shouldn't live in the USA. Where are our values????
Try boooing Obama's animatronic and it would become prime time news.
People who are against G.W.Bush need to start showing more respect for a guy who protected them after 9/11. How quick we forget what happened on that day.....SAD, SAD, SAD.
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Originally Posted by Marceline
Nope, he WAS...past tense...we have a new Commander in Chief last time I checked.
Last time I checked it's called the Hall Of Presidents, not Hall Of Obama and the Former Presidents. Plus, I'm with ya Michael Mouse; dissing BHO is very very taboo.
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As a visitor from Scotland with a sarcastic temprement, it is sometimes very tempting to say something in a staged whisper to my sister at AA or HOP, in fun of course. But itry not to because while we are all entitled to our own opinions, there are proper forums for these, and evry one deserves respect. Booing would be so inappropriate, and doesn't accomplish anything. so leave it outside the park entrance.
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You respect the office, even if you don't respect the person who holds the office.
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Originally Posted by Mousemates
So now I finally know the identity of the scallywag who booed James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson on our last trip to the HOP.
Lol...
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I do not begrudge anyone who wants to voice their distaste for a president, but booing an animatronic show just seems silly and is inconsiderate of the other guests who are trying to enjoy the show. I would guess that the OP's negative experience had a lot to do with the political climate at the time given that we were in an election year with strong emotions on both sides. That doesn't make it okay, but I don't think we have to worry about disruptions at HOP all the time. Personally I am more worried about the "president always deserves respect" crowd. Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
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Originally Posted by MichaelMouse
Try boooing Obama's animatronic and it would become prime time news.
cnn would have a whole news team in the magic kingdom
Originally Posted by mouseneer
Last time I checked it's called the Hall Of Presidents, not Hall Of Obama and the Former Presidents. Plus, I'm with ya Michael Mouse; dissing BHO is very very taboo.
Originally Posted by brownie
You respect the office, even if you don't respect the person who holds the office.
that was my original point, there are some presidents i really dont care for, but to boo them out loud in a theme park attraction is a little ignorant
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I wonder if the Jimmy Carter animatronic was booed during his rough stretch?
I wish they would give speaking roles to some of the lesser known presidents....the really good ones like maybe Polk. The appreciation we give him for actually not running for re-election after accomplishing his goals in four years is to forget about him.
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