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chase scenes
I haven't seen the movies, so I was worried about the changes, but I thought they were good and not distracting.
However, I know it's not politically correct, but it seems to me that when I was little, there were 2 scenes of pirates chasing the women and then the last one was the woman chasing the man and that was funny. It seems to me that now it's all women chasing men and that just isn't as creative.
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You have to be kidding? Change something that is a big hit? It will never go back to the old way. I give them an A+ on this one. Also for HM.
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Originally Posted by Ian
Ahh, no. Disney just spent millions of dollars to make these changes. The idea that they might change them back is ... uh ... far-fetched at best.
As Ian said.
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I think that in 5 or 6 years, when my new son is old enough to ride attractions like POTC and actually remember the details of it for years to come, he may not even really know the pirates movies, but he'll know there is a pirate named Jack Sparrow and its just all part of the show
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Everyone has their own perspective. My Grandpa, my parents and siblings, and my son have all enjoyed the traditional version of POTC. Sometimes change is good, sometimes it's not. Case in point: I personally don't know anyone who enjoys the changes they made to "Journey Into Imagination" - now "Imagination Institute." There are many many "bring back Figment and the Dreamfinder" posts to prove that the change was a bad one. But Disney wanted to update it with a hip Eric Idle, and it's failed.
While I have enjoyed the POTC movies, I just wished they had left the characters out of the attraction. If they had plans to expand the ride and/or upgrade the animatronics, fine. But for me and some others, the ride was never about Jack Sparrow or Barbossa. It was basically a tale about pirates ransacking a town, according to Walt Disney's interpretation. Now it's looked on as an attraction based on the movie.
I'm an old bird, I admit it. But I don't think everything has to change to make it interesting and viable. "Pirates" and "Peter Pan's Flight" are original Disney rides dating back to Walt's era. Thank goodness that "Hook" wasn't a success, otherwise kids would be hearing Robin Williams annoying voice throughout the ride. And thank someone that the "Haunted Mansion" movie tanked, because I would be nauseated seeing Eddie Murphy yuking it up in the ballroom or holding the dog in the cemetary.
When are they going to take the redhead out of the POTC auction scene and replace her with Elizabeth Swann? Is that next?
I respect others who disagree with my point-of-view. I hope you and your kids will continue to enjoy POTC with Cap'n Jack. But this overgrown 50-year old kid will miss what was.
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Potc
The changes were not to the detrement of the original.
Now if they took away the pirates in jail trying to get the dog togive them the keys... nope, instead of removing if from the ride they added it to the movie!
Golly, it's POTC not the vatican and we've been riding it since we were kids. The recent changes were welcome.
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I like it alot- its not too much, and its still got the flavor it needs-
Actually the women used to be chased by the men a while ago, so they changed that also-
but a few years ago.
As for Imagination- yes figment needs a better representation. he seems to be forgotten.
The Tiki room upgrade is stupid actually- its good to use Yago and Zazy but they could have found a better way- maybe a guest appearence at the end..
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Originally Posted by Goes4FastPass
The changes were not to the detrement of the original.
Now if they took away the pirates in jail trying to get the dog togive them the keys... nope, instead of removing if from the ride they added it to the movie!
Golly, it's POTC not the vatican and we've been riding it since we were kids. The recent changes were welcome.
I'm not saying it's the Vatican. I'm not being sarcastic. I love the old ride, I love the movies, I just don't enjoy both mixed together. As I wrote earlier, I sincerely respect that others enjoy the changes. That's fine. As many have written, it's unlikely they will change it back. Does that mean I will never go on the ride again? Heck no. It's "Pirates", I've loved it since I was a kid, and it's a personal favorite. But I hope you'll understand, it's just sad for some old birds like myself that it was changed. At least bring back Pete the Parrot to the Entrance.
Hypothetically, if Disney decided in the future to take out the redhead and replace her with Elizabeth Swann, how would you feel? Or for example they took out the auction scene and replaced it with the treasure cave scene from "Curse Of The Black Pearl" with Jack dueling Barbossa, would you be up for that change? Or yet another example: What if they changed the ride totally to conform to the movie? I'm not trying to start an argument: To the contrary, I'd like to know your thoughts regarding these hypothetical changes and whether or not you would approve of them.
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eh, the changes don't bother me too much, but if i had a gun to my head and had to choose
I'd change it back.
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The most recent changes occurred during the refurb that was finished on 6-19-08. They have taken out the "We wants the redhead" chant. Have added some other over talking on the way out.
I miss the parrot in the ride who said... "Aye there be squalls ahead" right before you go down the drop.
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The most recent changes occurred during the refurb that was finished on 6-19-08. They have taken out the "We wants the redhead" chant. Have added some other over talking on the way out.
Wow I'm glad they haven't done this at DL.
I have really enjoyed the additions to the DL version and look forward to riding the WDW version.
I do have one complaint about the WDW version. When I rode it 6 years ago I found out that it didn't have the gunfight scene at the end of the ride, it just seemed to end rather abruptly. Having grown up in CA I just assumed the rides were the same, now I know better.
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i really like the davy jones effect at the beginning. as for capt. jack, i can take him or leave him. but i really miss the parrot out front and don't understand why they took him away.
you say he's hawking clothes at the disney store now? which store is that? i'd like to go visit him
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i like the upgrade, it didnt change anything vital
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Gosh, we have had this discussion so many times here on Intercot.
Disney has GOT to keep things fresh. Old rides (as much as we love them) MUST be updated, freshened, "plussed." Rides DIE if they are not given attention and refurbishment. That's the bottom line. CHANGE HAPPENS. It must happen, or things die.
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I really like the changes to Pirates. I also liked that 20K was removed. And Mr. Toad. I think Tom Sawyer Island should go, too. I know I'm a radical! But, if the parents bringing their kids don't know what these are in reference to, then they must change.
Granted, probably none of us have seen Song of the South, but Splash Mountain is fun for the splashdown, not JUST the Brer Rabbit stuff. I'm not for all of the changes however. The Tiki Birds needed an update, but Gilbert Gottfried? It's just irritating. Also, Imagination. Again, an update, but first the removal of Figment (virtually), then the "Figment Show" as I call it, were disappointing.
The bottom line is that the parks will always be changing. Walt even said that, so I try to get over these things quickly. I believe that Walt would have been very happy with the POTC movies and welcomed the changes. I also think that he would have seen the fact that most kids had no idea who Mr. Toad and Captain Nemo were and either realized a change was needed OR tried to refamiliarize the public with these stories.
Final point I'll make, almost all of these changes (good or bad) are primarily financial. If attendance is down on a ride, or people are complaining-they aren't happy, they aren't spending and Universal starts to look more fun. Or it is sometimes too expensive or impossible to maintain that ride. For instance, many of the skyrides across the country have been removed because it became nearly impossible to maintain them for one reason or another. We'll just have to wait and see.
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How far back should they go back with POTC? There have been other revisions prior to the Capt. Jack Sparrow addition.
In my opinion, they've done a good job.
No matter what they do, they're never going to please everyone. Any change they make will be met with criticism, as would the choice to make no changes at all.
I say, here's to the folks at Disney for continually trying and never giving up in spite of constant criticism.
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Very doubtful. They changed both the Disneyland and Walt Disney World versions of the ride. It was in response to guest feedback looking for characters from the movie in the ride. I wish they hadn't changed it, but we're probably in the minority here.
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Originally Posted by indytraveler
The most recent changes occurred during the refurb that was finished on 6-19-08. They have taken out the "We wants the redhead" chant. Have added some other over talking on the way out.
Why would they take that out? That just doesn't make sense to me?..
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