Never again

[K8screen]

I am currently in line for RnRC on what will be my last EVER trip to WDW. For those of us who cannot afford to stay on property the lines in all the parks without FP+ are horrendous. I have visited many times including July 4th last year and never experienced wait times like this. Today we got into DHS at 8.55 and ran to TSM. The FP return was already 2.45 and standby wait 65 mins. So far we have been in this line for 45 mins and are still not in the building. Epcot and MK were the same.If you are lucky enough to be able to afford on property stays FP + is great. If you can't afford it, then stay at home. I will.

[AgentC]

I'm sorry you are having a bad time. I'm not sure how much is Fast Pass+ and how much is the above average crowds that WDW seem to be generating this week.

If you are able too, you might want to try to go to a different park. Right now (11:30) wait times seem to be much better at MK and AK than DHS and Epcot.

[MississippiDisneyFreak]

I'm afraid that's going to be the trend

[PopPhan]

I am currently in line for RnRC on what will be my last EVER trip to WDW. For those of us who cannot afford to stay on property the lines in all the parks without FP+ are horrendous. I have visited many times including July 4th last year and never experienced wait times like this. Today we got into DHS at 8.55 and ran to TSM. The FP return was already 2.45 and standby wait 65 mins. So far we have been in this line for 45 mins and are still not in the building. Epcot and MK were the same.If you are lucky enough to be able to afford on property stays FP + is great. If you can't afford it, then stay at home. I will.

FP+ WILL be available to anyone visiting WDW. It is only in this, the test phase, that FP+ is only available to select few by invitation.

I understand your frustration with this phase, but when the full roll-out comes, I think you will find that the lines will actually get smaller. My reasoning is that if you only have 3 FP+ selections available per day and only in one park, people will need to be more diligent on what attractions they select.

[disney obsessed]

I was there the 6th-11th and it was far more crowded than I expected.

[Christine]

It is extremely crowded right now. Like New Year's Eve crowded. I'm very sorry your trip is causing you such stress. I really feel badly for folks there on vacation right now. Especially those not in the FP+ test group.
I hope you are able to find some magic in the remainder of your trip.

[Aurora]

I looked online this morning and saw the wait times for rides. Also saw that MK has extra magic hours until 2 a.m. tonight. For them to have regular hours until midnight means that there are A LOT of people there today.

[ibelieveindisneymagic]

I'm sorry it is so crazy!

Wait times at DHS seem to get out of whack so quickly ... I think 'cause the "big ones" draw such crowds.

[disneymom15]

What's the reason for the extremely busy parks.

[#1donaldfan]

Been there and done those wait times !! Not fun, but I go in knowing we may have to wait long times if our FP's have run out !!

[Reedy Creek Buccaneer]

I am currently in line for RnRC on what will be my last EVER trip to WDW. For those of us who cannot afford to stay on property the lines in all the parks without FP+ are horrendous. I have visited many times including July 4th last year and never experienced wait times like this. Today we got into DHS at 8.55 and ran to TSM. The FP return was already 2.45 and standby wait 65 mins. So far we have been in this line for 45 mins and are still not in the building. Epcot and MK were the same.If you are lucky enough to be able to afford on property stays FP + is great. If you can't afford it, then stay at home. I will.

Always Fastpass TSM, then ride RNRC and ToT.

[Hammer]

I was there the 6th-11th and it was far more crowded than I expected.

I was there during the same time frame and noticed it was much more crowded than we expected. It wasn't just because of the Gartner conference either. I've been there during that conference and crowds were never that heavy because of it.

What's the reason for the extremely busy parks.

Wish I knew! I go to Food and Wine at about the same time every year, only go to Food and Wine kiosks during the week, and this was the most crowded I've ever seen it!

[AgentC]

I was there during the same time frame and noticed it was much more crowded than we expected. It wasn't just because of the Gartner conference either. I've been there during that conference and crowds were never that heavy because of it.

Wish I knew! I go to Food and Wine at about the same time every year, only go to Food and Wine kiosks during the week, and this was the most crowded I've ever seen it!

I agree with Christine. I was there from the 11th-13th. I knew it would be busy since it was Food & Wine and Columbus Day weekend but it was way busier than I expected. We went to Magic Kingdom on the 13th and left at noon because it was so crowded. I thought it would calm down a bit after the Monday holiday but I have seen pictures of really big crowds for the last week.

I think maybe some of it is the Halloween activities at all the parks (not just Disney) have gotten huge.

I have no idea if it is a factor but Disney has been doing a ton of TV advertising in FL highlighting you can buy a seasonal pass for $19 a month.

K8screen- I hope your day has gotten better!

[Gator]

It's the Halloween stuff, I'm sure. For some reason, it's becoming as popular as Christmastime. And with all the parties going on, plus the F&WF, it's going to be busier than usual. Probably doesn't help that it feels like summer there, too.

[Melanie]

I know some Tampa area schools are out today. Could be reason for the spike today only. So sorry it's miserably crowded. I'm not liking what I've been hearing lately.

[MNNHFLTX]

A lot more schools are having "Fall Break" now, usually in October. This is also true of schools overseas in the UK and other parts of Europe. That could account for part of it. That and the Food and Wine festival, of course.

[Middle of the Map]

Crowds and long waits are the reasons why I don't go in the summer or around holidays and special events.

Try booking in the off-season if you can. I hope you'll give Disney another chance.

[mickclub1955]

Isn't Jersey week sometime in October as well because of fall break?

[faline]

Try booking in the off-season if you can. I hope you'll give Disney another chance.

I'm not sure there is an off-season any more. January used to be very quiet. Between the marathons and the tour groups, that does not appear to be the case any longer. October - particularly around this time - used to be a dream time to visit with low crowds and pleasant weather. With the food & wine festival plus the Halloween parties, that no longer appears to be true. Late August, though hot, used to be a good time to visit as schools were going back into session. We were there in late August this year and the crowds were much higher than expected. Sooooooo.....when is off-season??

[faline]

Isn't Jersey week sometime in October as well because of fall break?

Jersey week is in November - right around Veterans Day.