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Wow, I am impressed by the prompt and well-executed response by the guest and the deputy. Bravo!
Now if we could just have a few more well-"executed" responses this type of thing would not happen as much....
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Pretty much thinking that we need to re-think the water park plans!!! What the heck is going on???
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Originally Posted by crazypoohbear
First off, let me say that I am thrilled they caught this guy and put him out of commission for a while.
2nd. I thought, he is in a convertible so he could be doing this type of thing on the open road as well. YOU can never be too careful
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3rd. Did anyone else find it to be funny that the witness works for the sex offenders unit. Talk about working while on vacation. that guy deserves an extra day off from work!
4th kids, especially older teens need to know that they must speak up if something like this happens to them. THey might think they don't want to make a big deal out of it or that no one "hurt" them or it was kinda funny but remind your older teens that if someone is doing this to them they could also be doing it to their younger siblings, friends, cousins neighbors etc. that they must speak up and not be embarrassed.
thank you.
This is another example of why we need to be aware (as parents), and keep an eye out for anyone doing something shady - and not to hesitate at letting lifeguards/security know about something when WE see it happen.
Our kids & the kids near us learn by example, and they need our guidance.
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IMO I don't think the problem is people being afraid or embarassed to report these things or even the response time of the police (or in this case water park employees) in these matters. I think our biggest problem is not keeping these creeps in jail. Judges give these people light sentences and when they get out they are right back to doing these things to our kids because they know that they will not be in jail for long.
Rita (aka NJGIRL)
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Originally Posted by VolMickey
Pretty much thinking that we need to re-think the water park plans!!! What the heck is going on???
How many times does this type of thing happen at your local public pool? More than you may imagine, or want to. This is big news simply because it is a Disney waterpark.
You/your kids/your grandkids/etc. are still much safer here than at any of your local establishments.
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Originally Posted by kakn7294
We're still going anyway. I'm still not thrilled about it but there was some good advice here and I do plan to talk to the girls. We'll be meeting Kristen and Ben (dolphinmickey9170) there so there will be 4 adults with my girls at all times. I would never let them go anywhere alone at TL (they are unfamiliar with the layout) or around any pool for that matter. I believe in safety in numbers when it comes to playing in water, even when there are fantastic lifeguards on duty.
I'm glad you are still planning to go. I agree with the previous posters that a perv would be a lot less likely to try something with an adult around. I hope you have a great time.
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Originally Posted by NJGIRL
IMO I don't think the problem is people being afraid or embarassed to report these things or even the response time of the police (or in this case water park employees) in these matters. I think our biggest problem is not keeping these creeps in jail. Judges give these people light sentences and when they get out they are right back to doing these things to our kids because they know that they will not be in jail for long.
You are exactly right. Every study I've ever read, says that these types of people cannot be rehabilited. They should be locked up and never released.
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Off-site - 3-92
Off-site - 2-01
ASM - 5-02, 7-03
CBR - 11-05, 2-10
Off-site - 2-06
Pop - 6-06, 2-08
Poly -12-07
Cor. S. - 6-2010
Cor.S. - 10-11
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Ok, I am not trying to down play the severity of these crimes, or make the claim that it is ok. However, please don't be too freaked out by these people that you change your plans. First of all it is highly unlikely, so I have read. Secondly, I have been the victim of such occurrences 4, yes 4, times. Twice while I was under 14 years of age. I called the police every time. The only time it was traumatic for me was when it occurred while I was at home in bed (the weirdo was in my window.) This was because, I think, it violated my safe, personal space. But the other three times, I got out of the situation and told an adult/police. It is not a particularly terrible experience. Creepy yes, but I am a psychologically healthy individual not afraid of any areas that these events occurred. Please, please don't take this as me saying oh you'll be fine, don't worry about sexual predators. But flashers generally only care about flashing...nothing more.
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Let's see...wardrobe malfunction, European bathing suit, unadjusted privates...let's just call a spade a spade...or in this case, a perv a perv! Good lookin out on the part of the witness and excellent response time by the authorities! Kids should always be taught to LOUDLY point out any inappropriate behavior directed towards them or witnessed by them. The more people aware of what's goin on, the more likely the perv will be caught. We as responsible parents MUST protect our kids (and others as well) from creeps like these. If we're lucky, we'll catch them before the authorities get there, and if they just happen to "fall face first into the concrete a couple of times while trying to escape" ...well...sorry!! (not really)
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Typhoon Lagoon: Charges dropped against alleged flasher at Typhoon Lagoon
Prosecutors have dropped the case against a man accused of flashing a minor at a popular Walt Disney World water park, Typhoon Lagoon.
Walter Pacheco
Sentinel Staff Writer
9:58 AM EDT, August 19, 2009
Prosecutors have dropped the case against a man accused of flashing a minor at a popular Walt Disney World water park.
Court records show the charges of lewd and lascivious exposure against 51-year-old Bradford Pellet Biggers were dropped on Aug. 12 because of insufficient evidence.
"The evidence provided to the State Attorney's Office was insufficient to prove beyond a reasonable doubt," said state attorney's office spokesman Randy Means.
Biggers did not immediately return calls to the Orlando Sentinel, but in an e-mail to the newspaper, a man identifying himself as Bradford Pellet Biggers denied the allegations.
"I was being threatened by this man who then chased me through the park after he shouted and screamed obscenities at me...all I was doing was cleaning sand from my suit for [one] second," the e-mail shows. "I cant believe something like this can happen. There was no 14-year-old girl who saw anything."
Reports from the Orange County Sheriff's Office show a witness told deputies he had seen Biggers position his lawn chair about four feet from the victim at Typhoon Lagoon on July 11. The witness said Biggers then tried to get the teenager's attention by moving his chair, staring at her and fondling himself.
The witness, an employee with Missouri's probation and parole sex-offender unit, yelled at Biggers and threatened to hurt him if he continued to expose himself, the sheriff's report shows. Biggers ran and started to drive away in his convertible.
A deputy saw Biggers running a stop sign in the parking lot. The deputy stopped Biggers and detained him because he had a suspended drivers license. The witness later identified Biggers as the man who had been allegedly exposing himself to the teenager.
Deputies said Biggers denied the allegations at the time of the arrest and blamed the wardrobe malfunction on his swimsuit, saying it was too tight and the elastic leg band was not properly adjusted.
Court records show Biggers' drivers license is still suspended.
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Yeah sure, I'll take this guy's word for it over the testimony of an employee with Missouri's probation and parole sex-offender unit.
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