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    Players listed in the Mitchell Commission report
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    Updated: December 13, 2007, 4:09 PM ET
    According to the Mitchell Commission report, here are players mentioned and how they are linked to performance enhancing substances:

    Information Learned During this Investigation Concerning BALCO and Major League Baseball (8 players/ 3 active in MLB in 2007)
    From the report: "I requested interviews of all the major league players who had been publicly implicated in the BALCO case."

    Marvin Benard
    Barry Bonds
    Bobby Estalella
    Jason Giambi
    Jeremy Giambi
    Benito Santiago
    Gary Sheffield
    Randy Velarde

    Information Regarding Purchases or Use of Performance Enhancing Substances by Players in Major League Baseball (53 players/ 18 active in MLB in 2007)
    From the report: "The following discussion is organized in roughly chronological order. Records do not exist to document every transaction described by witnesses. [Kirk] Radomski stated that, with one exception noted below, the payments he received from professional baseball players were for performance enhancing substances, as opposed to personal training or other services, and this assertion was confirmed by those players who agreed to speak with us about their dealings with him."
    Lenny Dykstra
    David Segui
    Larry Bigbie
    Brian Roberts
    Jack Cust
    Tim Laker
    Josias Manzanillo
    Todd Hundley
    Mark Carreon
    Hal Morris
    Matt Franco
    Rondell White
    Roger Clemens
    Andy Pettitte
    Chuck Knoblauch
    Jason Grimsley
    Gregg Zaun
    David Justice
    F.P. Santangelo
    Glenallen Hill
    Mo Vaughn
    Denny Neagle
    Ron Villone
    Ryan Franklin
    Chris Donnels
    Todd Williams
    Phil Hiatt
    Kevin Young
    Mike Lansing
    Cody McKay
    Kent Mercker
    Adam Piatt
    Miguel Tejada
    Jason Christiansen
    Mike Stanton
    Stephen Randolph
    Jerry Hairston, Jr.
    Paul Lo Duca
    Adam Riggs
    Bart Miadich
    Fernando Vina
    Kevin Brown
    Eric Gagné
    Mike Bell
    Matt Herges
    Gary Bennett, Jr.
    Jim Parque
    Brendan Donnelly
    Chad Allen
    Jeff Williams
    Howie Clark
    Exavier "Nook" Logan

    Alleged Internet Purchases of Performance Enhancing Substances By Players in Major League Baseball (16 players, 8 active in MLB in 2007)
    From the report: "Since the initial news reports of the raid by New York and Florida law enforcement officials on Signature Pharmacy and several rejuvenation centers, the names of several current and former major league players have appeared in the media as alleged purchasers of performance enhancing substances through these operations. These include:"

    Rick Ankiel
    Paul Byrd
    Jay Gibbons
    Troy Glaus
    Jose Guillen
    Jerry Hairston Jr.
    Gary Matthews, Jr.
    Scott Schoeneweis
    David Bell
    Jose Canseco
    Jason Grimsley
    Darren Holmes
    John Rocker
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    While I haven't always agreed with Mitchell's politics he has always seemed to be as honest as any national politician can be and in this case there is no reason why he should be anything but impartial. Plus he has always been known to be VERY thorough even when he was new to national politics and was playing the role of Democrat pit bull like most new politicians do for their respective party. I think it was also very telling that in his statement he was very emphatic about saying that basically EVERYONE in baseball was responsible in some way or other for allowing it to happen. That doesn't sound like a witch hunt to me.

    By the way, I hope that everyone remembers now that Clemens and Bonds have both been identified by the report that they start giving Clemens the same kind of hard time that they have given Bonds. There really is no difference between the two of them now. Both have cheated their way to the top!

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    Comments from a Yankee beat writer (Pete Abraham) on his blog:

    Senator Mitchell is lucky that Kirk Radomski was facing prison and was willing to rats guys out to get some time taken off his sentence. Otherwise the Mitchell Report would have been the size of a comic book.
    Roger Clemens takes the biggest hit today. Turns out that that his vaunted work ethic came out of syringe. He’ll deny, I suspect.
    Then what? If he wasn’t retired before, this clinches it. In five years voters will have to decide whether he belongs in the Hall of Fame.
    I don’t know how much that report costs but I hope Bud Selig kept the receipt. He should get some money back.

    Other things I've read - this is a very New York centric report - their main source lived in the Bronx.

    At this point - my pipedream is that I would love for all of them to get amnesty - then I want true confessions - and a promise not to take the drugs anymore unless its for injury reasons!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasper View Post
    While I haven't always agreed with Mitchell's politics he has always seemed to be as honest as any national politician can be and in this case there is no reason why he should be anything but impartial. Plus he has always been known to be VERY thorough even when he was new to national politics and was playing the role of Democrat pit bull like most new politicians do for their respective party. I think it was also very telling that in his statement he was very emphatic about saying that basically EVERYONE in baseball was responsible in some way or other for allowing it to happen. That doesn't sound like a witch hunt to me.
    The only reason that I say it's a witch hunt is that they are now naming names without giving us any proof - or at least any hard evidence that I've seen. Without evidence of a positive drug test, I don't see what this report proves. It's the same as a jury trial - there should be hard and fast evidence of guilt in order to convict. Provide a positive drug test and I'll believe it. That said, I'm not doubting that at least some, if not all of these guys are guilty.

    As far as Mitchell himself, I don't really know anything about him but as far as there being no reason why he wouldn't be impartial, he did sit on the board of directors for the Boston Red Sox. That right there could influence him - although I'm not saying it did because like I said, I really don't know anything about him.
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    As far as Mitchell himself, I don't really know anything about him but as far as there being no reason why he wouldn't be impartial, he did sit on the board of directors for the Boston Red Sox. That right there could influence him - although I'm not saying it did because like I said, I really don't know anything about him.
    I do not know much about Mitchell either. I find it funnny that hours before the 7th and final game of the ALCS, Cleveland's Paul Bryd's name is "leaked." Doesn't this Mitchell work with the Red Sox? A little bit strange to me Winning at all costs is once again an issue even if it means using information that should not have been released to try to help "your" team advance to the World Series. Same thing as cheating in my book. I can not prove anything but if Mitchell used information to try and help the Red Sox win it makes him no better than anyone on his "list."
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    I just heard something on the national news that absolutely shocked me even more than the list of names! Effective immediately the league office is suspending giving teams and players 24 hour notice of "random surprise" drug screens! I spent almost 15 years in the Human Resource profession and the FIRST thing you are taught about random drug screens is that you take the person DIRECTLY to the collection site and do not let them out of your sight, do not let them eat or drink anything, and do not let them go to the restroom because there are so many opportunities to do things that at the very least makes the results suspect. Giving them 24 hours notice just TOTALLY destroys any validity of the test and the procedure. According to this reporter the 24 hour notice practice has taken place since MLB began doing drug tests. That means there is basically no credibility in their process! I am simply aghast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kakn7294 View Post
    The only reason that I say it's a witch hunt is that they are now naming names without giving us any proof - or at least any hard evidence that I've seen. Without evidence of a positive drug test, I don't see what this report proves. It's the same as a jury trial - there should be hard and fast evidence of guilt in order to convict.
    I would say having copies of checks signed by players for thousands of dollars to a guy who has been convicted of, and admitted to, dealing steroids is pretty good evidence.

    No, this is not the same as a jury trial. The purpose of this report is to admit to the fans (the ones who pay the money) that there was steroid usage, and to help make sure baseball players stop using them. No player will be going to jail because they were named in this report. The only reason Barry Bonds may go to jail is because he lied to a grand jury, not because he used steroids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald A View Post
    I do not know much about Mitchell either. I find it funnny that hours before the 7th and final game of the ALCS, Cleveland's Paul Bryd's name is "leaked." Doesn't this Mitchell work with the Red Sox? A little bit strange to me Winning at all costs is once again an issue even if it means using information that should not have been released to try to help "your" team advance to the World Series. Same thing as cheating in my book. I can not prove anything but if Mitchell used information to try and help the Red Sox win it makes him no better than anyone on his "list."
    Obviously I don’t know for sure, but I would bet that Mitchell did not leak Byrd. Byrd’s name was linked with the Signature Pharmacy raid, along with Ankiel, Matthews, and Schoeneweis (all names I heard around the same time.) It was probably leaked by someone involved in the raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar View Post
    I would say having copies of checks signed by players for thousands of dollars to a guy who has been convicted of, and admitted to, dealing steroids is pretty good evidence.

    No, this is not the same as a jury trial. The purpose of this report is to admit to the fans (the ones who pay the money) that there was steroid usage, and to help make sure baseball players stop using them. No player will be going to jail because they were named in this report. The only reason Barry Bonds may go to jail is because he lied to a grand jury, not because he used steroids.
    Yeah, having signed checks is pretty good evidence. I didn't take the time to read the entire report and if this is mentioned in there, I missed it. It's not often you're going to buy steriods for someone else.

    I do realize that they weren't going to jail because of this report. As far as letting the fans know about the steriod use, is it really going to affect the average fan's image of MLB? We all already knew there was steriod usage. For me, this report changes nothing. Maybe I'm just naive.
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    Doesn't really change anything for me either

    A recap from my favorite sportswriter at LoHud blogs (Pete Abraham):

    George Mitchell made it a point today to say that none of the players mentioned in his report should be punished by MLB. Pretty telling.


    Bud Selig - who incredibly said he hadn’t read the whole report - said he would take each player on a case-by-case basis and act swiftly.


    If the commissioner tries to suspend anybody, he’s going to create quite a mess. Because the feds had the goods on Kirk Radomski and Brian McNamee, they ratted out some players to Mitchell. Radomski lives in New York and worked for the Mets. So many of the players he dealt to were connected to the New York teams.


    The dealers in Los Angeles, Boston, Miami and other places ducked the investigation. I’m no former Senator, but I suspect Radomski and McNamee had competitors. You know what many players will want for Christmas? Their canceled checks back.


    If Selig starts suspending assorted Yankees, Orioles and Blue Jays based on the report of a Red Sox team director, he’s going to upset competitive balance and raise more questions about the validity of this report.


    Beyond that, suspending players based on hearsay evidence is tricky business. Threaten somebody with time in the big house and they’ll toss their mom under the bus. There are no positive tests here, no photographs, no audio.


    You want to punish teams based on what the towel boy said? The MLBPA would sprint to court on that. In real life, these charges are flimsy at best.


    Public scorn is enough. Suspensions need to be based on hard evidence, not the squeals of a rat.
    He also noted players who were missing from the report - Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire - hello?
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    During the late 90's (following Kirby Puckett's retirement), Roger Clemens and Sammy Sosa were my guys that I followed. I for one was surprised Roger was on the list, although it does give an explanation to the bat incident; but I'm happy Sammy wasn't on the list. However, outside of the BALCO list, which was the only investigation an active player (Jason Giambi) participated in, I'm not reading too much into this, but I do hope MLB wakes up and realizes they need to do more in terms of steroid prevention.
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    1. I don't see this as a witch hunt. It is a well documented list that took millions of dollars and lots of time to complete
    2. I don't think Mitchell has any ulterior motive. So what if he was on the board of the Red Sox? I also heard he is/was on the Disney board and Disney owns ESPN etc etc... The point is, the guy is a politician. They spend their whole lives trying to get important positions and make connections.
    3. I DO care strongly about this. I am disgusted that Barry Bonds was a cheater and broke so many records and I want to see him be exposed. Also what kind of a message does it send our young athletes if pro players don't get punished for using? Steroids, when not needed for medicinal purposes as Scar talked about, are a nasty, sometimes life-threatening habit. I applaud this report and hope that something good comes of it.
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    Mark and Sammy were not on the list, but that was only because they didn't interview their dealer- There are plenty more players involved-
    ( brady anderson ? Rich Aurilla? etc) that it was pretty obvious they were involved in this-
    We all know Mark and Sammy did it, It is so obvious that its a joke.
    Its sad that the records that were broken, and milestones set were held by these drug enduced super-humans, and the real stars like Hank Aaron and roger maris lose their records

    Ok so the Most impotant Question:
    DID JOSE CANSECO SAVE BASEBALL BY DOING THIS ?


    I really think he did. 20 years from now, we will look back at him as a man of courage....which is funny because he is a jerk.
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    I will say that after reading the list it should only be taken as a small cross section of the era. I'm sure if he talked to other teams trainers and staff a more balanced list would have come out. There are lots of obvious players missing from the list since they or the teams did not get questioned for the report. A report from an investigation with no subpoena power is pretty much useless in my eyes. Now if they talked to trainers and staff from every team under oath then it would hold more validity. This is MLB answer to a problem they ignored because it was bringing in revenue. Now Selig can punish a few big name stars and say see we do care. The report really is a bunch of garbage it really isn't shedding new light on the situation and there is really no way to validate it's claims. The owners, player, managers, trainers, MLB, and MLBPA all knew about steroid use and chose to ignore it for the good of their bank accounts then all of a sudden you have BALCO and baseball cares.
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    Well, Andy Petitte admitted to using HGH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goofhook View Post
    Well, Andy Petitte admitted to using HGH.
    I have a new respect for him.
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    Subpoena for Knoblauch Still Not Served

    By HOWARD FENDRICH, AP
    Thu Jan 24, 6:35 AM EST

    Former major leaguer Chuck Knoblauch had not been tracked down as of early Wednesday evening by federal marshals trying to serve him a subpoena from a House panel investigating steroids in baseball, a committee staffer told The Associated Press.

    The person spoke on condition of anonymity because staffers were not authorized to make public comments on the matter.

    Knoblauch, a four-time All-Star who played for the Yankees, Twins and Royals from 1991-02, originally was asked to appear Thursday for what was supposed to be the first of five depositions or transcribed interviews scheduled by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

    Those sessions are in preparation for a hearing Feb. 13, when the witnesses are scheduled to include seven-time Cy Young Award winner Roger Clemens and his former personal trainer, Brian McNamee.

    When the committee didn't hear from Knoblauch or a representative, it issued a subpoena to force the 1991 AL Rookie of the Year to submit to a deposition next Tuesday.

    As of 7 p.m. Wednesday, though, that subpoena had not reached the former infielder who, like Clemens and more than 80 other players, was accused of using performance-enhancing drugs in last month's Mitchell Report on baseball's steroids era.

    Clemens was asked to speak to committee staff Saturday, and his workout partner and former teammate with the Yankees, Andy Pettitte, was invited to be interviewed Jan. 30. McNamee is due to speak to the committee Jan. 31, with former New York Mets clubhouse employee Kirk Radomski to appear Feb. 1.

    Lawyers for Clemens and McNamee have said their clients will appear, although one of McNamee's lawyers, Earl Ward, said his client would like to change the date of his meeting.

    "We're still waiting to hear back from them on an alternate date," Ward said Wednesday.

    Ward said he is awaiting final word on McNamee's request for immunity but also said that McNamee would appear without it.

    In the Mitchell Report, McNamee said he injected Clemens with steroids and human growth hormone, accusations the pitcher with the eighth-most wins in major league history has denied repeatedly. Pettitte acknowledged McNamee injected him twice with HGH while the pitcher was recovering from an injury.

    McNamee also told Mitchell he acquired HGH from Radomski for Knoblauch in 2001 and injected Knoblauch with HGH.

    Radomski pleaded guilty to distributing steroids and laundering money. His sentencing is Feb. 8.
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