Roberto Alomar and Bert Blyleven were elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame.
I'm so glad Blyleven finally made it in!
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Roberto Alomar and Bert Blyleven were elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame.
I'm so glad Blyleven finally made it in!
Bagwell only getting 41% surprised me. McGwire went down below 20% thankfully...
Roberto Alomar - 90.0%
Bert Blyleven - 79.7%
Barry Larkin - 62.1%
Jack Morris - 53.5%
Lee Smith - 45.3%
Jeff Bagwell - 41.7%
Tim Raines - 37.5%
Edgar Martinez - 32.9%
Alan Trammell - 24.3%
Larry Walker - 20.3%
Mark McGwire - 19.8%
Fred McGriff - 17.9%
Dave Parker - 15.3%
Don Mattingly - 13.6%
Dale Murphy - 12.6%
Rafael Palmeiro - 11.0%
I am so glad Blyleven got in as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by alphamommy
I think Jack Morris and Lee Smith deserve to be there too.
Here's my unsoliceted opinion:
Roberto Alomar - 90.0% - What? He stunk! (Mets fan here.)
Bert Blyleven - 79.7% - Compiled great stats, but never thought of him as a great pitcher.
Barry Larkin - 62.1% - Boarderline. Wouldn't get my vote but will probably make it.
Jack Morris - 53.5% - Had 2 unbelievable post seasons, but other than that, just very good.
Lee Smith - 45.3% - Boarderline. Sutter and Eckersley were better.
Jeff Bagwell - 41.7% - Should be a lock in a few years.
Tim Raines - 37.5% - Coulda, shoulda, woulda.
Edgar Martinez - 32.9% - Would be in if he could even wear a glove.
Alan Trammell - 24.3% - Good player but, sorry.
Larry Walker - 20.3% - As good a hitter in the mid to late '90's as any. Then fell apart in the early '00's at 35 years. Hmm ... I wonder ...
Mark McGwire - 19.8% - Hmm ... I wonder ...
Fred McGriff - 17.9% - Always liked The Crime Dog (even with Atlanta. ;).) Deserves more votes but won't get them.
Dave Parker - 15.3% - Boarderline. How is he even still on the ballot? didn't he retire like 50 years ago?
Don Mattingly - 13.6% - Hernandez was better. :razz:
Dale Murphy - 12.6% - See: McGriff
Rafael Palmeiro - 11.0% - I can't believe he got any votes.
ETA: Admittedly, I'm tough on getting in. I think there's a bunch of guys in that don't deserve it. And don't get me started on the Veteran's Committee. :rolleyes:
Bert Blyleven was a very good pitcher with excellent longevity. He compiled some impressive stats, but I do not believe that he reached the level of greatness that should be required for entrance into the Baseball HOF. I do not recall him as being the staff ace for the various teams he played, he was a solid 2-3 in their rotations.
Jack Morris was always the ace, at least until late into his career. His ERA is what makes him borderline.
Barry Larkin looks strong, based on the SS position.
Edgar Martinez- not even close.
Don Mattingly had 5 great years, then his offensive numbers declined due to injuries. Yet, he still was superior to Keith Hernandez and probably an equal with the glove.
Lee Smith was durable and at times dominating. Overall, he lacked consistency.
Tim Raines is worthy of further evaluation. He faded a little too early in his career.
McGriff deserves more votes. He is not a first ballot selection but is worthy of making it later.
Murphy should be in by now. His career stats and accolades are extremely similar to Jim Rice. The difference? Rice played in the northeast where the media concentrates most of their coverage, while Murphy toiled in the south surrounded by less talent and much less spotlight.
I got the chance to hear Blyleven speak twice actually this past weekend at ESPN the Weekend, and what a great story. Seems he rightly so had some frustration on not being elected all those years.
Consider he had more career shutouts than Glavine and Maddox combined. :jaw:
My favorite conversation was with him, Frank THomas and Cal Ripkin, Jr. and how when they played, pitchers were 'men'. They were expected to go 7, 8 or even throw a complete game every time they went out there.
Anyway, congrats to Bert!:thumbsup:
In my mind Bert belongs. He was a dominant pitcher on mediocre to poor teams for most (if not all) of his prime. His strikeouts, wins, shutouts and ERA compare very favorably with many of his contemporaries. Guys with names like Ryan, Sutton, Perry and Niekro. To me this was a no-brainer. What took so long? :confused: