Pleasure Island Re-Development Project Starting Toward Completion

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10-19-2010, 01:37 PM
Figment!

Pleasure Island Re-Development Project Starting Toward Completion

Notice of Commencement
Document 20100605313

State of Florida
County of Orange
October 18, 2010

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2. General description of improvements(s)
Pleasure Island/DTD RE-Development Project-Site Construction Trailer Mobilization

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Notice of Commencement
Document 20100605314

State of Florida
County of Orange
October 18, 2010

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2. General description of improvements(s)
Pleasure Island/DTD RE-Development Project-Overall Site Construction

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Pleasure Island/Downtown Disney Re-Development Project Address List

Buildings

1. Motion - 1630 E. Buena Vista Drive, LBV FL 32830
2. Beach Club-1620 E. Buena Vista Drive, #1, LBV, FL32830
3. BET Sound Stage - 1560 E. Buena Vista Drive, LBV, FL 32830
4. Adventurers Club- 1570 E. Buena Vista Drive, LBV, FL 32830
5. Comedy Warehouse - 1580 E. Buena Vista Drive, LBV, FL 32830
6. Portobellos - 1650 E. Buena Vista Drive, LBV, FL 32830
7. Mannequins - 1600 E. Buena Vista Drive, LBV, FL 32830
8. Raglan Road - 1640 E. Buena Vista Drive, LBV, FL 32830

Misc Areas

1. Service Yard between Portobellos and Raglan Road - 1650 E. Buena Vista Drive, LBV, FL 32830
2. Area Development in front of Fulton's Crab House and Portobellos - 1650 E. Buena Vista Drive, LBV, FL 32830
3. Fuego/Sosa Cigars - 1610 E. Buena Vista Drive, LBV, FL 32830
4. Area Development between Comedy Warehouse & the demolished BET/Adventurers Club - 1550 E. Buena Vista Drive, LBV, FL 32830
5. Archway Feature at Bridge 2 and possible alterations approaching Bridge 2 for Valet Parking - 1604 E. Buena Vista Drive, LBV, FL 32830

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Disney: Pleasure Island Plans Coming Soon

WESH 2 News
October 19, 2010

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. -- Disney has filed for two construction permits pertaining to Pleasure Island.

One of the permits appears to be asking to place construction trailers on the site. The other is for “overall site construction.”

One page of the permits ... lists buildings and miscellaneous buildings that would be affected by the construction. The list includes clubs like Motion and BET Sound Stage that haven’t been open since Disney shut them down in 2008.

A Disney spokeswoman confirmed to WESH 2 News on Tuesday that more details on the project would be made public within weeks.

In 2009 financial documents, Disney said changes to Pleasure Island would be complete in 2012.
10-19-2010, 01:47 PM
DizneyRox

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4. Area Development between Comedy Warehouse & the demolished BET/Adventurers Club

Where's my hammer? Looks like we can nail that coffin shut...
10-19-2010, 03:02 PM
Imagineer1981

How about just reopen it the way it used to be 10-15 years ago...it worked
10-19-2010, 08:19 PM
MinnieMommie

Pleasure Island Re-Development Project Starting Toward Completion

Thanks Jason. It's about time they do something with this area. It's really a wasted space since they shut so much of it down. I look forward to learning more about the details of the refurbishment. :mickey:
10-19-2010, 08:22 PM
Joannelet

Finally Disney!!
Let's get this area up and running again with SOMETHING!!!!
Can't wait to hear more info!
Thanks for the news :)
10-20-2010, 05:14 AM
vizsla

Thanks for the update.
10-20-2010, 09:49 AM
Ian

Maybe it's just me, but this has to go down as one of the most mystifying decisions in WDW history.

They took what was working very well and mucked with it (thus violating the "If it ain't broke don't fix it" rule) trying to make even more money on what was an already incredibly profitable enterprise.

Then, when their decision fails miserably, instead of just reversing course and going back to what worked previously they decide to knock down the entire area, including one of the most popular attractions in the entire resort, in spite of massive guest protests??

It just really reinforces for me that WDW management has no clue what they're doing.
10-20-2010, 11:15 AM
Evil Genius

But other than the Comedy Warehouse and the Adventurer's Club the rest of PI was dying slowly.

The other clubs almost always appeared near empty and the maintenance on them was lacking as well. I think it reached a point where TDO simply was waiting for the death nell.

Once they took away the admission ticket to PI...it really started declining quickly.

I'm excited to see what's ahead though! There's so much un-tapped potential there!
10-20-2010, 11:19 AM
Ian

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Originally Posted by Evil Genius

Once they took away the admission ticket to PI...it really started declining quickly.

I guess that was my point, though. They're the ones that decided to do away with the admission requirement, thus causing it to go downhill.

You'd think the response would (at least at first) be to re-institute the admission requirement before proceeding to tearing down the entire thing?? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Evil Genius

I'm excited to see what's ahead though! There's so much un-tapped potential there!

Wish I could share your optimism, but I'm fairly certain it's just going to be a bunch of retail stores. I can almost guarantee it will be nothing to get excited over.
10-20-2010, 11:41 AM
PopPhan

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Originally Posted by Ian

Wish I could share your optimism, but I'm fairly certain it's just going to be a bunch of retail stores. I can almost guarantee it will be nothing to get excited over.

If you read the details of the 'renovations', there is mention of a Valet Parking area to be installed....I would think this would not be necessary, or appropriate, for retail stores, but rather for some type of venue (or venues) that would bring in higher profile clientele....
10-20-2010, 11:55 AM
GothMickey

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Originally Posted by Ian

I guess that was my point, though. They're the ones that decided to do away with the admission requirement, thus causing it to go downhill.

You'd think the response would (at least at first) be to re-institute the admission requirement before proceeding to tearing down the entire thing?? :confused:

Wish I could share your optimism, but I'm fairly certain it's just going to be a bunch of retail stores. I can almost guarantee it will be nothing to get excited over.

Don't be so down. From what I read online, the Pleasure Island make over will be nice. Rumors are a nautical theme will be coming and a name change to Pleasure Island as well. Not retail stores. Don't worry.
10-20-2010, 01:31 PM
TheRustyScupper

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Originally Posted by GothMickey

Don't be so down. From what I read online, the Pleasure Island make over will be nice. Rumors are a nautical theme will be coming and a name change to Pleasure Island as well. Not retail stores. Don't worry.

1) From everything I have seen & heard, restaurants and shopping.
2) Sure doesn't sound like fun to me.
3) I thought the new name is Dis-Pleasure Island.
10-20-2010, 04:27 PM
MOJoe

I'm with Ian on this one. Why would you "re-develop" a successful entertainment venue? Only if you can replace it with something more profitable. Seems like Disney is trying to make every square foot responsible for XYZ number of dollars. And dance clubs, comedy clubs and other entertainment areas just don't make the grade. I'm very pessimistic that what becomes of PI will be anything like what it was before. Retail stores and high turnover restaurants seem to be the only likely establishments.

I hope i am wrong. Think about it. If Magic Kingdom was nothing but a big store, no one would pay to get in. There must be entertainment value somewhere. Disney quality entertainment at that. Hopefully someone high up in management knows this. And gives us the fun we are looking and paying for. Hopefully.
10-20-2010, 08:06 PM
dnickels

Hope it's something other than shopping and restaurants, but like Ian and Rusty, I'm not holding my breath.

A gift shop (like the one across the street) and a restaurant on every corner (serving basically the same stuff as the one on the next corner) seems to be the direction of DTD. Hurray for homogenization! :ack:
10-21-2010, 12:13 AM
DizneyFreak2002

Schussler Creative is supposedly the company Disney contracted with to do the redesign of Pleasure Island... The name change may have the word Harbour in it... Someone elsewhere was talking about a nautical themed restaurant called Mahogany Bay, but he also concedes that info is old and may be scrapped...

I guess we should just wait a few weeks and see what the announced changes are...
10-22-2010, 06:14 AM
DizneyRox

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Originally Posted by DizneyFreak2002

Schussler Creative is supposedly the company Disney contracted with to do the redesign of Pleasure Island...

What ever happened to Imagineering doing these types of things?
10-22-2010, 08:51 AM
Ian

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Originally Posted by DizneyRox

What ever happened to Imagineering?

I think you should have cut it off right there. ;)
10-22-2010, 10:25 AM
Ian

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Originally Posted by DizneyFreak2002

Schussler Creative is supposedly the company Disney contracted with to do the redesign of Pleasure Island...

Well since Schussler Creative is a restaurant and retail design firm, I'd say that puts any rumors of something interesting coming to bed.
10-22-2010, 07:41 PM
DizneyFreak2002

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Originally Posted by Ian

Well since Schussler Creative is a restaurant and retail design firm, I'd say that puts any rumors of something interesting coming to bed.

That is exactly what I thought when i looked them up... I'm thinking we will see a nautical themed restaurant, something like Rainforest Cafe or T-Rex since this company designed those restaurants too...
10-22-2010, 08:06 PM
Ian

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Originally Posted by DizneyFreak2002

That is exactly what I thought when i looked them up... I'm thinking we will see a nautical themed restaurant, something like Rainforest Cafe or T-Rex since this company designed those restaurants too...

They also designed the Hot Dog Hall of Fame. :rolleyes:
10-22-2010, 09:23 PM
DizneyFreak2002

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Originally Posted by Ian

They also designed the Hot Dog Hall of Fame. :rolleyes:

Well, rumor is a hot dog/hamburger fast food shack coming in the form of a Light House... :doh:
10-30-2010, 05:45 AM
Cinderelley

Why are they listing Raglan Road?
10-31-2010, 04:27 PM
Figment!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cinderelley

Why are they listing Raglan Road?

Some sort of construction is planned for the site.

These types of documents are filed for many types of construction, even very minor work.

Whether or not such work may result in a closure period is unknown at this point.
10-31-2010, 08:33 PM
Polynesian Dweller

I can add just a little about what's going on. When we walked through PI on Oct 22 there were survey crews taking measurements every where and lots of then. That's usually a pretty good sign of significant construction coming. Unfortunately for many folks, there was a lot of activity around the Adventurer's Club. Will be interesting to see the official announcement.
11-01-2010, 01:19 AM
Cinderelley

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Originally Posted by Figment!

Some sort of construction is planned for the site.

These types of documents are filed for many types of construction, even very minor work.

Whether or not such work may result in a closure period is unknown at this point.

Thank you Figment. We had a great time at Raglan Road last time. Glad to hear it isn't definitely getting closed.