Smoking, Ice and Strollers

[missymouseworld]

Just read online that effective May 1st, all parks will be “smoke –free” and will only have designated areas outside the park entrances. Also, no loose ice or dry ice is allowed inside the park, just ice packs can be used. They also announced a restriction on the size of strollers (no larger than 31” w x 52”l ) and specifically stated no “wagon” type strollers allowed.

[PopPhan]

That will cut my adult beverage consumption by a lot!! LOL Always want a cigarette after a drink (or two)...To have to leave the park to do so just makes it too much of a pain in the backside.

I am NOT saying that I am not for this change, but once again, a few who did/do not obey the rules on smoking areas make it bad for the rest of us who do.

[Figment!]

Here's the full announcement from Disney:




Walt Disney World and Disneyland make updates from time to time and are implementing some changes, including the removal of smoking areas within parks and the adjustment of park policies related to stroller size, stroller wagons and loose ice.

Here are a few tips to help ensure a smooth arrival during your next visit.


STROLLERS


Families with little ones know strollers are an important part of a vacation. It’s the napping zone, the storage place, and the spot for tired legs to rest while experiencing the magic.


Beginning May 1, we are adjusting our guidelines on stroller sizes, which will require them to be no larger than 31″ (79cm) wide and 52″ (132cm) long. The good news – many strollers on the market, including many double jogging strollers, fit within these size guidelines. Also, just a reminder that wagons are not permitted in our parks. Beginning May 1, stroller wagons will also no longer be permitted. These updates are designed to help guest flow and ease congestion, making the parks more enjoyable for everyone.


TIP: The smaller your stroller, the easier it is to navigate and maneuver the parks. “My number one go-to is renting a stroller from Disney,” explains Disney Parks Moms Panelist Tabitha. “At Walt Disney World Resort, you can rent a single or double stroller once you arrive, and they can be rented each day or you can choose a Length of Stay Rental.” While Walt Disney World already offers a double stroller rental, Disneyland Resort will soon offer one too!


SMOKING


Also beginning May 1, smoking areas will no longer be present inside Walt Disney World or Disneyland theme parks, water parks, ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex or Downtown Disney in California.


TIP: Designated smoking areas will be available outside the entrances of the areas listed above and at Disney Springs in Florida. For guests who have room or dining reservations, smoking areas are also available at Disney Resort hotels.


LOOSE ICE

Beginning today, if you plan to bring a cooler or cooler bag to store snacks and drinks for theme park or water park adventures, it’s important to know that loose or dry ice are no longer permitted in our parks.


TIP: We recommend you keep your items frosty with re-useable ice packs instead. “You can visit any Quick-Service location for complimentary cups of ice for your cooler (you can also request complimentary cups of ice water to stay hydrated!),” recommends Disney Parks Moms Panelist Linda.


For additional information about these updates, visit our FAQs at DisneyWorld.com/RulesFAQ and Disneyland.com/RulesFAQ. .

[Figment!]

... and I though this thread was going to be about a new INTERCOT Musical Group ...

:D

[PopPhan]

... And i though this thread was going to be about a new intercot musical group ...

:d

roflmfao!!!!!!!

[missymouseworld]

... and I though this thread was going to be about a new INTERCOT Musical Group ...

:D

Now that I read the title again, I can see that :mickey:

[Zippy 1]

I am hoping that the changes with strollers and the ban on wagon type strollers (hopefully this includes the Cinderella ones) will help things. The bigger strollers are harder for people to see over and thus they run into more people. Plus stroller parking takes up so much space in the parks

[CrashOverride]

That will cut my adult beverage consumption by a lot!! LOL Always want a cigarette after a drink (or two)...To have to leave the park to do so just makes it too much of a pain in the backside.

I am NOT saying that I am not for this change, but once again, a few who did/do not obey the rules on smoking areas make it bad for the rest of us who do.I'd be interested in knowing if that applies to vaping as well. I know most folks lump them both together.

[Zippy 1]

It does include vaping

[PopPhan]

I'd be interested in knowing if that applies to vaping as well. I know most folks lump them both together.

Vaping is included with smoking in ALL cases. You cannot, currently, vape outside of Designated Smoking Areas, and when this policy goes into effect, you cannot vape inside the park(s) gates at all.

Exhaled vapors from vaping contain nicotine. and therefore falls into the same category as smoking.

[CrashOverride]

SMH. That's gonna hurt their sales. That's a bit much to expect at a smaller park, like six flags. Let alone a park as big as Disney. Do they really think people are gonna waste a 1/2hr, each way, to puff a smoke. Or, god forbid, vape a hit off a far less harmful setup. I have no problems with keeping smoking out of lines, I get that. I can even see why they wouldn't want people smoking freely about the park, as it promotes a bad image and can affect other peoples experience. But outright banning it from the park is going to bury them. Looks like I'm going to universal [emoji23]

[BriarRose0708]

I am a non-smoker but I do empathize with how inconvenient this change must be for smokers who did stick to the designated areas. Unfortunately, those who ignored them are why we can't have nice things. That said, there's nothing worse than trying to find a short cut or less-crowded path in a park and stumbling into the smoking area on accident. I am, however, VERY happy this includes vaping and e-cigarettes! Yes people have the right to vape, and that's fine, but they don't have the right to vape in my face everywhere just because it's not a traditional cigarette.

[CrashOverride]

Vaping is included with smoking in ALL cases. You cannot, currently, vape outside of Designated Smoking Areas, and when this policy goes into effect, you cannot vape inside the park(s) gates at all.

Exhaled vapors from vaping contain nicotine. and therefore falls into the same category as smoking.

And people who do not agree with you are NOT ignorant.Not all vape has nic, and it hasn't even been proven if vaping with nic, in an enclosed environment, is harmful. They just jump on the ignorant train...

[CrashOverride]

And for the record, nicotine is actually more commonly used than you think. Second hand smoke is filled with carcinogens. Vape, at best, has a little residual nic. But you keep putting it in the same category as smoking [emoji108]

[CrashOverride]

I am a non-smoker but I do empathize with how inconvenient this change must be for smokers who did stick to the designated areas. Unfortunately, those who ignored them are why we can't have nice things. That said, there's nothing worse than trying to find a short cut or less-crowded path in a park and stumbling into the smoking area on accident. I am, however, VERY happy this includes vaping and e-cigarettes! Yes people have the right to vape, and that's fine, but they don't have the right to vape in my face everywhere just because it's not a traditional cigarette.I agree 1000%......while in lines. Just because vaping is safer, doesn't give you the right to cloud up someone else's personal space

[BriarRose0708]

Believe me, Nikki, I am not trying to 'stir the pot,' BUT (Yes, I'm stirring the pot! LOL) you could say the same thing about people who overindulge in adult beverages. They have the right to overindulge, but not in a place with numerous children or when it interferes with my (the 'royal' "my") enjoyment of the parks. So, in that respect, all alcohol should be banned from the parks.

I am a combination smoker/vaper, so I see your point about vaping/e-cigarettes and agree with you whole-heartedly. Too many vapers/e-gig users think they are "above the law" when it comes to smoking areas/regulations in public places. [See CrashOverride above!]

Oh no worries, I agree with you! It seems like Disney can better enforce this than the intoxicated guests, and unfortunately I think it would be different if they sold cigarettes in the parks. But they don't, so as long as they make money on the over-indulging adult, this will continue to be an issue as well.

[CrashOverride]

Sorry to take the OP OT. I guess the long and short of it is, it's Disney. So, anything they can do to promote a friendlier environment, they will do. And since vaping is still seen as the equivalent of smoking, by those who haven't been properly educated, it falls under the same guidelines

[CrashOverride]

But lemme ask you this, if vape was colored, do you still think it would be banned? I think not, as the connotation would shift to something more playful, rather than anything nic related. Its all about optics

[PopPhan]

I think it would be different if they sold cigarettes in the parks.

In that Walt was a smoker, there are times I really wonder why they don't. LOL I actually do believe they are still sold in the resorts....I guess that's next....

[NewDVCowner]

In that Walt was a smoker, there are times I really wonder why they don't. LOL I actually do believe they are still sold in the resorts....I guess that's next....

He was a smoker and died of lung cancer. Probably not something they want to encourage.

And while I can see how this will be hard for people that do smoke I, for one, am glad that I'm not going to need to walk through clouds of smoke or 'vape'.

And my sister does smoking education. There have been no studies that say that vape is safe - it might not have the same issues as the tars from traditional cigarettes, however the things that are in them may be approved for consumption, that doesn't mean they're okay in your lungs. 'Popcorn lung' is a thing associated with vaping.

[CrashOverride]

He was a smoker and died of lung cancer. Probably not something they want to encourage.

And while I can see how this will be hard for people that do smoke I, for one, am glad that I'm not going to need to walk through clouds of smoke or 'vape'.

And my sister does smoking education. There have been no studies that say that vape is safe - it might not have the same issues as the tars from traditional cigarettes, however the things that are in them may be approved for consumption, that doesn't mean they're okay in your lungs. 'Popcorn lung' is a thing associated with vaping.No one said vaping was safe. Ofc, anything other than oxygen is bad for you. I said "safer", by far. And I know what's in my vape, so I don't need a study to tell me that [emoji869] I can understand your argument about not wanting to walk through clouds of vape. Again, I agree. But as I stated above, it's all about optics. If a Disney character happens to blow a plume of colored vapor from his mouth at the time that you walked by, you may be a bit annoyed, but you wouldn't be concerned. Now, ofc there aren't any characters that do that, just using it as an example. Its all about optics. If you walked through a vape cloud, you would not only be annoyed, but you would assume some type of health risk was being imposed upon you as well. Due to the optics and misinformation, vape is included in the ban, which I FULLY understand. It just irks me when people try to make vape sound like another hazard, rather than what it was meant for. And that's as a smoking cessation tool. And for the record, there are plenty of juices without diacetyl in it or nicotine, just in case you actually believe that harvard study. Both of which I use. Not to mention the PPM required for second hand to be hazardous is on an industrial level, and certainly not something you would get by passing through a cloud or standing next to someone who is vaping. Also, for the record, there hasn't been any cases proving the correlation between the two, just that further studies are required. Why do vapers feel like they are "above the law" you ask? Because of the reasons the laws were written in the first place. And most of them were combustion and PROVEN second hand health related. And since there is no source of combustion or any proven results, it is rather unfair to blindly group vaping in with smoking. I am happy your sister does cigarette education. You may want her to look into vape as well

[BIGDOG]

So the people who drink to excess and fall all over my kids at night at Epcot can still drink but THE PERSON WHO SMOKES IN THE CORNER AWAY FROM EVERYONE IS BEING PUNISHED. I do not smoke or drink but it doesn't seem fair.

[Cinderelley]

I am a combination smoker/vaper, so I see your point about vaping/e-cigarettes and agree with you whole-heartedly. Too many vapers/e-gig users think they are "above the law" when it comes to smoking areas/regulations in public places. [See CrashOverride above!]

Lol. You're awesome.

[DizneyFreak2002]

So the people who drink to excess and fall all over my kids at night at Epcot can still drink but THE PERSON WHO SMOKES IN THE CORNER AWAY FROM EVERYONE IS BEING PUNISHED. I do not smoke or drink but it doesn't seem fair.
Disney makes money on the alcohol... and allowing Epcot to becomes Drunkytown USA.... Now, don't kid yourself... If people started a SMOKING AROUND THE WORLD challenge in World Showcase, and Disney was able to profit from it, you betcha smoking would be allowed all over... But, since they don't profit from it, nope, smoking not allowed...

I'm a non-smoker and welcome smoke free everything cause that smell is gross, and I shouldn't be subjected to it... With that said, the smoking areas weren't an issue and don't need to be removed... They are off the beaten path and the only way one would smell the smoke is to be in the area... I don't see this lasting very long...

The strollers on the other hand... ban them all!!!! joking.... I'm all for limiting the size...

[1DisneyNut]

I'd be interested in knowing if that applies to vaping as well. I know most ignorant folks lump them both together.

I am far from ignorant. I don't necessarily lump them together but they fall into the same category which is exhaled fumes from something which I do not desire to be subject to at any time. From my point of view, the ignorance falls on the other side, those that are inconsiderate enough to think that since it isn't a cigarette and actual smoke, it is acceptable to use them an exhale the fumes in public spaces. I don't even allow them to be used in my home because I do not want to smell it or have to breathe whatever is in the concoction. For the record, most of them stink. I know some of you vapers think that your blue-raspberry cotton candy delight smells awesome but to many of us it is disgusting.


Vaping is included with smoking in ALL cases. You cannot, currently, vape outside of Designated Smoking Areas, and when this policy goes into effect, you cannot vape inside the park(s) gates at all.

Exhaled vapors from vaping contain nicotine. and therefore falls into the same category as smoking.

And people who do not agree with you are NOT ignorant.

Exactly, and furthermore, we have no idea or no way of knowing what some of these morons are putting in their vaping devices. Some have nicotine, some have THC from pot, some have even been found to have meth or heroine mixed into them. So yeah, I don't want someone puffing on one of those things around me.


Not all vape has nic, and it hasn't even been proven if vaping with nic, in an enclosed environment, is harmful. They just jump on the ignorant train...

It hasn't been proven that it is NOT harmful either. The burden of proof should fall on proving it is not harmful, not the other way around. You may not be up on your cigarette history, but early on, it was not proven that they were harmful either. It wasn't until decades later when all the wide spread lung cancer cases started showing up in smokers did they realize it was harmful.


And for the record, nicotine is actually more commonly used than you think. Second hand smoke is filled with carcinogens. Vape, at best, has a little residual nic. But you keep putting it in the same category as smoking [emoji108]


Sorry to take the OP OT. I guess the long and short of it is, it's Disney. So, anything they can do to promote a friendlier environment, they will do. And since vaping is still seen as the equivalent of smoking, by those who haven't been properly educated, it falls under the same guidelines

I know you think you know what is in your vape. However, you don't have a full disclosure of scientific results where your vape has been tested showing exactly what it contains. At some point, it will most likely become a requirement that retail vaping products be tested and a full disclosure label of contents be listed by percentages. I will almost guarantee you that when that day comes, a lot of you are going to be shocked at what all you have been sucking into your lungs. There are most likely going to be some preservatives of some sort, a few chemical binders, compounds for the flavors and a few other fun things and then the interesting part is going to be how all of those are interacting when heated by the vaping device and then metabolized in your lung and then what happens with those compounds in your blood stream. You are smart enough to realize that those compounds are entering your blood stream because that is what your lungs do right? So are they forming crystalline compound structures that are building up in your arteries or collecting on your hear valves or even worse penetrating into heart tissue and hardening the valves or muscle which could result in heart failure 20 or 30 years down the road? The answer is you do not know. You have absolutely no idea because their is no history yet and there is no required testing results or labels to give you the knowledge. I went through all of that so I could then give you the definition of ignorance......which is the lack of knowledge. :D


No one said vaping was safe. Ofc, anything other than oxygen is bad for you. I said "safer", by far. And I know what's in my vape, so I don't need a study to tell me that [emoji869] I can understand your argument about not wanting to walk through clouds of vape. Again, I agree. But as I stated above, it's all about optics. If a Disney character happens to blow a plume of colored vapor from his mouth at the time that you walked by, you may be a bit annoyed, but you wouldn't be concerned. Now, ofc there aren't any characters that do that, just using it as an example. Its all about optics. If you walked through a vape cloud, you would not only be annoyed, but you would assume some type of health risk was being imposed upon you as well. Due to the optics and misinformation, vape is included in the ban, which I FULLY understand. It just irks me when people try to make vape sound like another hazard, rather than what it was meant for. And that's as a smoking cessation tool. And for the record, there are plenty of juices without diacetyl in it or nicotine, just in case you actually believe that harvard study. Both of which I use. Not to mention the PPM required for second hand to be hazardous is on an industrial level, and certainly not something you would get by passing through a cloud or standing next to someone who is vaping. Also, for the record, there hasn't been any cases proving the correlation between the two, just that further studies are required. Why do vapers feel like they are "above the law" you ask? Because of the reasons the laws were written in the first place. And most of them were combustion and PROVEN second hand health related. And since there is no source of combustion or any proven results, it is rather unfair to blindly group vaping in with smoking. I am happy your sister does cigarette education. You may want her to look into vape as well

I still don't want to smell your stinking vape. It is inconsiderate, rude and just plain disrespectful to others to think that you have some right to subject us to it.


Disney makes money on the alcohol... and allowing Epcot to becomes Drunkytown USA.... Now, don't kid yourself... If people started a SMOKING AROUND THE WORLD challenge in World Showcase, and Disney was able to profit from it, you betcha smoking would be allowed all over... But, since they don't profit from it, nope, smoking not allowed...

I'm a non-smoker and welcome smoke free everything cause that smell is gross, and I shouldn't be subjected to it... With that said, the smoking areas weren't an issue and don't need to be removed... They are off the beaten path and the only way one would smell the smoke is to be in the area... I don't see this lasting very long...

The strollers on the other hand... ban them all!!!! joking.... I'm all for limiting the size...

Exactly. I agree, the full ban on smoking is probably going to fail miserably. Smokers are going to smoke so which is worse, dedicated smoking areas or most of them sneaking around corners or going in bathroom stalls and smoking? Heck, I can already see them going in the single stall family restrooms and smoking.

As for the new stroller requirements, I have been advocating for that policy for years. Nothing is more irritating than the people that bring those great big strollers with the huge wheels on the buses. I can't imagine why anyone would even want to battle through crowds with one of those things. We learned quickly when we had small children that the small, foldable umbrella type strollers were the way to go.

[CrashOverride]

Let me be clear, I am in no way saying that vaping is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Just that it is a healthi"er" alternative to smoking, without the major health hazards caused by cigarettes. This includes the second hand side of things. I am not saying that in 50 years, they may find some harmful affects from vaping. But regardless of what they are, they would be A LOT less harmful than a cigarette. I may not know every little thing that goes into my vape( even though the site I buy it from has certified lab results) I am positive they are not putting formaldehyde or many of the other 1000's of toxic ingredients in a cigarette. So, yeah, I get a bit miffed when people compare vape to a cigarette. A simple answer to my original question could've been," yes, vape is included as it is still considered offensive to some guests", and I would have completely accepted that. That's not ignorant, the original answer was

[Imalismom]

This is from a moderator - you will notice that a LOT of messages are gone. Why? This is a family forum, and as such, language is moderated. Others were deleted due to referencing the deleted message.

Please keep this site family friendly.

[1DisneyNut]

I will try to be clear as well. I don't think anyone here or many people anywhere would argue with you about vaping being less harmful and a healthier alternative to cigarettes. The problem we have is the attitude some people that vape seem to have. You stated in a previous post that you have a "right" to vape when and wherever you want. Well, you don't. We have the right to not be exposed to your vaping in public spaces. We aren't equating vaping to smoking but the two are comparable in the fact that they are both inhaled by a user, exhaled and then inhaled by bystanders who do not want the exposure. Therefore, vaping fits right in with laws, rules and statutes we have regarding smoking. Rather than go through the hassle of creating brand new laws and rules specifically for vaping, it is easier to just roll it right into the existing laws for smoking. That is where the two end up lumped together.

We would not have had to push for vaping being included in existing smoking bans if it wasn't for those that have the attitude like you that they can vape whenever and wherever they want with blatant disregard for others. Just wait, there will probably be a push in the future to pile some substantial taxes on to vaping supplies to curb their use if things keep going like they have.

You mentioned you have lab results from the manufacturer of the vaping products you buy showing what they contain. A couple of things about that......I don't know how old you are but there has been plenty of news stories, documentaries, and papers written about how the tobacco industry intentionally released false information including inaccurate scientific data trying to say smoking was not harmful to protect their sales. We all know how that has turned out. So who is to say that vaping product manufacturers aren't slanting, omitting or misleading users? Another thing to consider is by looking at the information they are actually giving you, do you know how those chemicals and other ingredients are metabolizing in your system? Are they crystallizing in your lungs? When they enter your blood stream are they creating compounds and crystallizing and attaching to your artery walls, heart valves or in your heart muscle tissue? The answer is you have no idea because there is no data available and the manufacturer sure as heck wouldn't tell you if they did know. All of that is exactly why the rest of us, who are apparently ignorant in your eyes, do not want to be breathing your second hand vape.

[CrashOverride]

Yup. Truth hurts...peace [emoji869]

[ibelieveindisneymagic]

Can we re-focus this discussion? No matter how each one of us may feel about smoking and/or vaping, it is fact that Disney has banned these within the parks. In the spirit of encouraging open, and respectful discussion, let's refrain from attacking each other, or being otherwise nasty.

Since it is unlikely that anyone will change their views on smoking/vaping, let's get back to discussing how this may impact Disney, and how you visit & enjoy the parks. For me, my in-laws were smokers, and they would find it hard to not smoke all day, so time for them to leave the park would have been required, which might have made things just a bit more challenging.

[missymouseworld]

That loose ice ban has me confused. :mickey:

[Cinderelley]

That loose ice ban has me confused. :mickey:

Ikr, unless they were getting spilled and causing slips and falls. But you can go get ice from a restaurant which could still potentially create the slip and fall situation. Perhaps it was causing issues at the security checkpoint?

[DizneyFreak2002]

Exactly. I agree, the full ban on smoking is probably going to fail miserably. Smokers are going to smoke so which is worse, dedicated smoking areas or most of them sneaking around corners or going in bathroom stalls and smoking? Heck, I can already see them going in the single stall family restrooms and smoking.
I wasn't even thinking along these lines... I was thinking more along the lines of people who haven't had their nicotine fix, in the summer heat, with crying kids, large crowds, getting irate even more than they already are cause they haven't gotten their hit.... going to Guest Services and ranting up a major storm.... I sense a lot of fast passes or free dinners to Victoria and Albert's will be handled out on a daily basis...

[DizneyFreak2002]

Ikr, unless they were getting spilled and causing slips and falls. But you can go get ice from a restaurant which could still potentially create the slip and fall situation. Perhaps it was causing issues at the security checkpoint?
People can put stuff in ice cubes...

[ibelieveindisneymagic]

People can put stuff in ice cubes...

I didn't think of that. I was so confused at why they would ban ice, but then encourage you to get ice from a restaurant if you need it.

[DizneyFreak2002]

I didn't think of that. I was so confused at why they would ban ice, but then encourage you to get ice from a restaurant if you need it.
I know it is weird thinking like that, but I don't put anything past anyone... And even with this ice ban, if people wanted to really sneak something into the parks, they will find a way...

Now, how about conspiracy theory.... Disney is going to charge for ice...

Further conspiracy... Disney will start banning all outside strollers forcing you to rent theirs only...

Even bigger conspiracy.... Smoking banned until Disney can find a way to make money off smoking... Like the International Smokers and Nicotine Addicts Festival!!!!! Buy cigarettes from all around the world, at mark up prices....

[PopPhan]

People will bury things under the ice and security has to search the cooler, digging through it all. Saw on another posting somewhere that someone had packed a 6-pack of beer under all the loose ice and security basically had to dump it all to find the beer. Bagged ice and cooler packs/ice packs are fine though.

[texas211]

But lemme ask you this, if vape was colored, do you still think it would be banned? I think not, as the connotation would shift to something more playful, rather than anything nic related. Its all about optics

Then they'd sell Disney vapes :)


In that Walt was a smoker, there are times I really wonder why they don't. LOL I actually do believe they are still sold in the resorts....I guess that's next....

I know you can get cigars at the resorts. Course, way overpriced (and dry) and its best to bring your own. So I bet they have cigarettes, though probably a limited selection.

I just bring my redman to the park. Need some nicotine after dealing w/ the public for too long in one. day. I am excited, if they enforce it, to reduce those land cruiser strollers. They need a licensing test for those w/ strollers and the scooters.

[Cinderelley]

I am excited, if they enforce it, to reduce those land cruiser strollers. They need a licensing test for those w/ strollers and the scooters.

Ha! They need a licensing test before people can have kids.

[Cinderelley]

People will bury things under the ice and security has to search the cooler, digging through it all. Saw on another posting somewhere that someone had packed a 6-pack of beer under all the loose ice and security basically had to dump it all to find the beer. Bagged ice and cooler packs/ice packs are fine though.

You could put stuff in bagged ice too though. I am sure you can also put stuff in ice packs if you really wanted to. I'm just not motivated enough to figure out how to do it.
I wonder how security knew to dig through the ice and find the beer.

[brad192]

.... Smoking banned until Disney can find a way to make money off smoking... Like the International Smokers and Nicotine Addicts Festival!!!!! Buy cigarettes from all around the world, at mark up prices....

Maybe some wine & beer pairings with those cigs?:wine: And don't forget thr kiddos - free candy cigarettes so they can participate as well!:joy: Might even have roaming interactive ash trays too. Remember PUSH?:woohoo:

[TheVBs]

LOVE the ban on smoking in the parks! This is long overdue. Even with the designated areas, if the wind was blowing the right way, I have walked by them and ended up with a face full of smoke. I doubt they'll ban smoking at the resorts, but I would be very appreciative if they would move the smoking areas away from the entrances. Why on earth have a designated smoking area that so many people have to walk by?

Also loving that they've limited the size on strollers. We used to do the umbrella stroller thing too. It would fold up so small that we could keep it completely out of everyone's way. Some of the strollers I've seen people muscle on to the buses are ridiculous. More than once we've helped those parents hold those strollers so they don't go flying into someone's legs.

The ice I'm totally neutral on. It never occurred to me that people would hide things in it - but I shouldn't be surprised. In which case, I guess I'm not neutral, I consider that a good policy change too.

[Disney4us2]

I was talking to someone at church today that works security. As far as the ice, it's so they don't have to stick their hands into the ice to check the cooler out. Ice in baggies is fine since they can move it easily.

[DizneyFreak2002]

Maybe some wine & beer pairings with those cigs?:wine: And don't forget thr kiddos - free candy cigarettes so they can participate as well!:joy: Might even have roaming interactive ash trays too. Remember PUSH?:woohoo:

Yes, I remember PUSH... The roaming ashtrays will be called ASH, PUSH's long lost sister...

When I was a kid, we always had candy cigarettes... No one ever cared, no one ever thought twice... Our parents never thought us pretending we were smoking would actually lead us to smoking... We were kids having fun... Today's parents and society rip fun from the kids, and we wonder why all the children have their heads buried in tablets and phones today....

And of course there will be wine and beer pairings... gotta make more money for the going broke Disney company!!!

Wait til weed is legalized... Then Disney's International Festival of Cannabis will be a huge draw... And imagine the money they make on those who are smoking up and feeling like they have the munchies... MO' MONEY, MO' MONEY, MO' MONEY!!!!

[texas211]

Well, then you'll find me at the Scotland booth. Scotch and cigars, natural bedfellows.

[1DisneyNut]

You could put stuff in bagged ice too though. I am sure you can also put stuff in ice packs if you really wanted to. I'm just not motivated enough to figure out how to do it.
I wonder how security knew to dig through the ice and find the beer.

Alcohol is the second main thing they are searching for after weapons, which is first of course. People try to come in with bottles of liquor hidden in backpacks and beer buried under ice all the time. A security guard commented to me one time he needed to get all the way to the bottom of our backpack to make sure we didn't have a pint of vodka in there. lol He said when they first started searching bags at the entrances, they were pulling alcohol out constantly. Once people learned they are searching for it, they started putting effort into hiding it so they have to dig to the bottom of ice filled coolers and all of that. I don't know what difference it makes other than they don't want people bringing it in so they will instead have to buy the high priced markups at their stands. I'm not that dedicated to save a few bucks while I am on vacation but if I wanted to bring alcohol in, I would and they would never know. You know, it is sort of like the college sporting events where they don't allow alcohol but 90% of the people in the stands have a buzz. lol

[PopPhan]

Wait til weed is legalized... Then Disney's International Festival of Cannabis will be a huge draw... And imagine the money they make on those who are smoking up and feeling like they have the munchies... MO' MONEY, MO' MONEY, MO' MONEY!!!!

That happens and you will see a new day/week/etc. for Phased Closures!!!! Most likely, full closure by 11am!!!! Hahahahaaaaa

[DizneyFreak2002]

That happens and you will see a new day/week/etc. for Phased Closures!!!! Most likely, full closure by 11am!!!! Hahahahaaaaa
LOL...

Maybe not... weed smokers are too mellow and may not have the desire to traverse to a theme park... OR.... they get distracted by a White Castle...

[texas211]

Alcohol is the second main thing they are searching for after weapons, which is first of course. People try to come in with bottles of liquor hidden in backpacks and beer buried under ice all the time. A security guard commented to me one time he needed to get all the way to the bottom of our backpack to make sure we didn't have a pint of vodka in there. lol He said when they first started searching bags at the entrances, they were pulling alcohol out constantly. Once people learned they are searching for it, they started putting effort into hiding it so they have to dig to the bottom of ice filled coolers and all of that. I don't know what difference it makes other than they don't want people bringing it in so they will instead have to buy the high priced markups at their stands. I'm not that dedicated to save a few bucks while I am on vacation but if I wanted to bring alcohol in, I would and they would never know. You know, it is sort of like the college sporting events where they don't allow alcohol but 90% of the people in the stands have a buzz. lol

Well, if you can't be buzzed at a college football game, you aren't doing it right. Liquor in the bottom half of a pringles can, freezing little bottles in a chunk of ice, swapping out cough medicine bottle w/ better medicine. If you had a stroller in college, thats for the keg dressed up as a child. Though I bet we could have engineered some cool ways to fit small or custom bottles in a stroller. Taking gelpacks apart, making them into flasks.

[pjbs35a]

I am glad they did not ban my charcoal grill and rib eye steaks that I bring in on a regular basis!