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Miss Tink 2
02-06-2012, 10:02 PM
What exactly is the TIW card? Have seen it mentioned in several posts.

AgentC
02-06-2012, 11:37 PM
TIW is the Tables in Wonderland discount card that gives a 20% off discount off food and alcoholic beverages at most table service restaurants and select counter service (usually where there is a lack of table service options. Use of the card requires a mandatory 18% tip.

The card is available to passholders ($75), FL residents ($100) and I think is going to (or maybe already) be available for DVC members.

We use it and really love it.

DizneyRox
02-07-2012, 06:56 AM
Use of the card requires a mandatory 18% tip.
Only on table service locations and lounges...

Melanie
02-07-2012, 07:05 AM
Only on table service locations and lounges...

Correct, which makes it a great deal where the 18% is not assessed, like the counter service options at Animal Kingdom. :thumbsup:

DizneyRox
02-07-2012, 11:08 AM
I think on a future trip I'll try to eat Flametree for breakfast lunch and dinner! I love that place!

Gayle
02-07-2012, 05:08 PM
Never heard of this?:confused:

Strmchsr
02-07-2012, 05:50 PM
Tables In Wonderland - a discount dining card available to AP holders and FL residents. You get 20% discount at most TS places and some (very few) CS. But, it covers the whole meal, including adult beverages.

floridamom
02-07-2012, 07:41 PM
There is some talk that DVC members will also be eligible to purchase the TIW card sometime this year.

DizneyRox
02-08-2012, 06:39 AM
There is some talk that DVC members will also be eligible to purchase the TIW card sometime this year.
Reports indicate they already are, $100 for the card.

PlutoPlanet
02-08-2012, 12:35 PM
We prefer TiW to the Dining Plan.

DizneyFreak2002
02-09-2012, 01:18 AM
Reports indicate they already are, $100 for the card.

And that $100 is a yearly membership fee???

TinkerbellT421
02-09-2012, 08:17 AM
And that $100 is a yearly membership fee???

Technically yes, card is good for 13 months.

Dyanna
02-09-2012, 09:39 AM
Can you use both your DVC membership discount & TIW as a second discount for meals at participating restaurants?

Melanie
02-09-2012, 09:41 AM
Can you use both your DVC membership discount & TIW as a second discount for meals at participating restaurants?

No. One discount per meal. That's pretty much Disney's rule across the board (accomodations, meals, etc.).

dizneydeb22
02-09-2012, 11:41 AM
Does anyone know where I can find a list of the restaurants? Particularly the CS restaurants. We are seriously considering buying the TIW as new DVC memebers(yay!!). I didn't realize that there were some CS restaurants included.

Thanks for your help!
:mickey:

TinkerbellT421
02-09-2012, 11:48 AM
Does anyone know where I can find a list of the restaurants? Particularly the CS restaurants. We are seriously considering buying the TIW as new DVC memebers(yay!!). I didn't realize that there were some CS restaurants included.

Thanks for your help!
:mickey:

I saw your other post regarding an annual pass, the annual pass discount is the better deal when purchasing the TiW card because then the TiW would be $75.00 instead of $100.00 :mickey:

The only list I have is the little booklet that comes with the card which is at home and I cannot find an updated list as of currently. But there has been reports that some locations do accept it even though it's not on the "participating list" they provide you.

DizneyFreak2002
02-09-2012, 01:13 PM
I never looked into TiW... So, AP holders get the TiW card for $75 while DVC members pay $100... How much is the TiW discount??? I know DVC members get discounts at certain restaurants during certain days, and I will assume TiW can be used during the entire vacation.... AP holders also get discounts at certain restaurants without the TiW correct??? I believe, if I am not mistaken, the discounts are 10% with DVC membership and AP passes.... What is TiW's discount??? Doesn't seem worth it to buy the TiW card as a DVC member...

TinkerbellT421
02-09-2012, 01:30 PM
I never looked into TiW... So, AP holders get the TiW card for $75 while DVC members pay $100... How much is the TiW discount??? I know DVC members get discounts at certain restaurants during certain days, and I will assume TiW can be used during the entire vacation.... AP holders also get discounts at certain restaurants without the TiW correct??? I believe, if I am not mistaken, the discounts are 10% with DVC membership and AP passes.... What is TiW's discount??? Doesn't seem worth it to buy the TiW card as a DVC member...

Discount for TiW is 20% and incredibly, to DBF and I astonishment, available at more restaurants than DVC or AP. We made a complete list of all three discounts, calculated, etc after I argued that TiW was the better deal and DBF refused to believe it, but caved in. After he saw the numbers, he couldn't disbute my argument anymore, not that he ever would have one anyway lol :mickey:

But with TiW there's an automatic 18% gratuity on table services, which wasn't a big deal to us because that's the norm we use anyway, maybe 17% but the extra 1% didn't make us cringe and worked out much better.

DizneyRox
02-09-2012, 03:35 PM
I never looked into TiW... So, AP holders get the TiW card for $75 while DVC members pay $100... How much is the TiW discount??? I know DVC members get discounts at certain restaurants during certain days, and I will assume TiW can be used during the entire vacation.... AP holders also get discounts at certain restaurants without the TiW correct??? I believe, if I am not mistaken, the discounts are 10% with DVC membership and AP passes.... What is TiW's discount??? Doesn't seem worth it to buy the TiW card as a DVC member...
There are only a few places where a DVC restaurant is better than the TiW discount. And then a few places that take AP and nothing else.

As mentioned, it's 20% off the total bill, good at pretty much all Disney owned and operated TS locations, and CS locations where a Disney Owned and Operated TS doesn't exist. For examplle, AK doesn't really have a TS location (well, Tusker House, but that's it). So, I think Pizzafari and Flame Tree take TiW. The values don't have TS locations either, so TiW is honored at the food courts. There are a few others I think.

I'm surprised that you never considered the TiW. If it's available to you, I would seriously consider it as an option. Even if I had to pay $100 for it, it would save us tons of money. We would normally get at least a couple trips out of it through careful/creative vacation planning, and often more. Even as a table for 2, we broke even well before the end of our first trip with it.

dizneydeb22
02-09-2012, 04:09 PM
And don't forget, with the TIW you also get the 20% off of alcoholic beverages! The other do not offer that discount.:marg:

DizneyRox
02-09-2012, 04:11 PM
And don't forget, with the TIW you also get the 20% off of alcoholic beverages! The other do not offer that discount.:marg:
Not just alcoholic beverages, pretty much everything at the lounges, etc. Got a buck off a PB&J milkshake at the lounge attached to 50's Prime Time a while back. Not a lot, but they all add up!

DizneyFreak2002
02-09-2012, 04:20 PM
Discount for TiW is 20% and incredibly, to DBF and I astonishment, available at more restaurants than DVC or AP. We made a complete list of all three discounts, calculated, etc after I argued that TiW was the better deal and DBF refused to believe it, but caved in. After he saw the numbers, he couldn't disbute my argument anymore, not that he ever would have one anyway lol :mickey:

But with TiW there's an automatic 18% gratuity on table services, which wasn't a big deal to us because that's the norm we use anyway, maybe 17% but the extra 1% didn't make us cringe and worked out much better.

OK, isn't that 18% only for certain places though, or was I mistaken???


There are only a few places where a DVC restaurant is better than the TiW discount. And then a few places that take AP and nothing else.

As mentioned, it's 20% off the total bill, good at pretty much all Disney owned and operated TS locations, and CS locations where a Disney Owned and Operated TS doesn't exist. For examplle, AK doesn't really have a TS location (well, Tusker House, but that's it). So, I think Pizzafari and Flame Tree take TiW. The values don't have TS locations either, so TiW is honored at the food courts. There are a few others I think.

I'm surprised that you never considered the TiW. If it's available to you, I would seriously consider it as an option. Even if I had to pay $100 for it, it would save us tons of money. We would normally get at least a couple trips out of it through careful/creative vacation planning, and often more. Even as a table for 2, we broke even well before the end of our first trip with it.

I never considered TiW before... I actually allowed my AP to expire because I saw no more value in it (I wasn't going down the year the pass expired, couldn't justify the cost to renew without a 2 week trip, and when I went last year, it was cheaper for me to get a 4 day one park per day pass than an AP).. As a DVC member, i have used my DVC discount at a few places, but I noticed most were only taking them on certain days, like Tuesdays...

I'll look into this more, I just don't see how a fee of $100 bucks a year for something that may only be able to be used a handful of times will be worth it for me... But if it works for everyone else, great...

AgentC
02-09-2012, 04:32 PM
As mentioned, it's 20% off the total bill, good at pretty much all Disney owned and operated TS locations, and CS locations where a Disney Owned and Operated TS doesn't exist. For examplle, AK doesn't really have a TS location (well, Tusker House, but that's it). So, I think Pizzafari and Flame Tree take TiW. The values don't have TS locations either, so TiW is honored at the food courts. There are a few others I think.


The counter service at POFQ also gives the discount because there is not a TS location there.



OK, isn't that 18% only for certain places though, or was I mistaken???

The 18% gratuity is for all table service. Counter service does not have the gratuity. Even with it I still come out ahead because we normally tip at least that much.

TinkerbellT421
02-09-2012, 04:38 PM
OK, isn't that 18% only for certain places though, or was I mistaken???



As a DVC member, i have used my DVC discount at a few places, but I noticed most were only taking them on certain days, like Tuesdays...

I'll look into this more, I just don't see how a fee of $100 bucks a year for something that may only be able to be used a handful of times will be worth it for me... But if it works for everyone else, great...

Nope it's 18% across the board except at V&A which is 20%. When DBF and I did the math TiW was the only one that made sense for the best discount. We did a three column spreadsheet listing all restaurants we would consider eating at, would be eating at and might eat at and TiW had the best discount. Even for the DVC discounts that offered the same discount you couldn't use it freely like like it excluded Brunch, or excluded eating at the bar at ESPN, but TiW didn't have any exclusions except for it didn't cover brunch at House of Blues, no other restrictions. DVC discount at ESPN can't be used on Sundays, etc not with TiW, could use it anytime. Check it out. And don't forget you only need one card for up to TEN people in your party. So if you go to dinner with 9 of your friends that one card and one fee counts for all 9 of you and what you all order, including alcohol (I forgot about the alcohol before :blush:). If it works for you awesome, if not atleast you looked into the possibility on whether or not it would help you. :thumbsup:

TinkerbellT421
02-09-2012, 04:40 PM
Oops, forgot to add that the restrictions with TiW are like all other discounts AP, DVC, etc, it exclude any popular black out dates, i.e. Christmas, Easter, etc.

If this helps heres a list of locations I found online:

Participating Restaurants and Lounges as of March 2011:

All-Star Movies Resort
World Premiere Food Court

All-Star Music Resort
Intermission Food Court

All-Star Sports Resort
End Zone Food Court

Animal Kingdom Lodge
Boma-Flavors of Africa
Jiko-The Cooking Place
Sanaa
Victoria Falls

Beach Club Resort
Beaches & Cream Soda Shop (eat-in only)
Cape May Cafe
Martha's Vineyard Lounge

BoardWalk
Belle Vue Lounge
Big River Grille and Brewing Works
ESPN Club
Flying Fish Cafe
Kouzzina by Cat Cora

Osprey Ridge Golf Club
Sand trap Bar & Grill

Caribbean Beach Resort
Shutters at Old Port Royale

Contemporary Resort
California Grill
Chef Mickey's
Outer Rim Lounge
The Wave

Coronado Springs Resort
Maya Grill

Fort Wilderness Resort & Campground
Crockett's Tavern
Hoop-Dee-Doo Musical Revue (9:30 p.m. show only, offered seasonally)
trail's End Restaurant (Excludes take-out)

Grand Floridian Resort & Spa
1900 Park Fare
Cítricos
Garden View Lounge
Grand Floridian Cafe
Mizner's Lounge
Narcoossee's
Victoria & Albert's (excluding Chef's Table and Queen Victoria Room)

Old Key West Resort
Olivia's Cafe

Polynesian Resort
'Ohana
Kona Cafe
Spirit of Aloha Dinner Show (late show only)
Tambu Lounge

Pop Century Resort
Everything Pop Dining (excluding merchandise)

Port Orleans Resort
Riverside:
Boatwright's Dining Hall
River Roost

French Quarter:
Sassagoula Floatworks and Food Factory
Scat Cat's Club

Saratoga Springs Resort & Spa
Artist's Palette
The Turf Club Bar and Grill
The Turf Club Lounge
Wilderness Lodge
Artist Point
Territory Lounge
Whispering Canyon Cafe

Yacht Club Resort
Ale and Compass Lounge
Captain's Grille
Crew's Cup Lounge
Yachtsman Steakhouse



DOWNTOWN DISNEY Marketplace
Cap'n Jack's Restaurant
Fulton's Crab House

DOWNTOWN DISNEY Pleasure Island
Paradiso 37
Portobello
Raglan Road

DOWNTOWN DISNEY West Side
Bongo's Cuban Cafe
House of Blues (excludes Sunday brunch)
Planet Hollywood
Wolfgang Puck Cafe
Epcot
Akershus Royal Banquet Hall
Biergarten Restaurant
Bistro de Paris Restaurant
Chefs de France Restaurant
Coral Reef Restaurant
Garden Grill Restaurant
La Hacienda
Le Cellier Steakhouse
Nine Dragons Restaurant
Restaurant Marrakesh
Rose & Crown Pub & Dining Room
San Angel Inn Restaurante
Tokyo Dining
Tutto Italia Ristorante
Via Napoli


Disney's Hollywood Studios
50's Prime Time Cafe
Hollywood & Vine
Mama Melrose's Ristorante Italiano
Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater Restaurant
The Hollywood Brown Derby
Tune-In Lounge

Magic Kingdom
Cinderella's Royal Table
Liberty tree Tavern
The Crystal Palace
The Plaza Restaurant
Tony's Town Square Restaurant

Animal Kingdom
Flame tree Barbecue
Pizzafari
Restaurantosaurus
Tusker House Restaurant


Disney's Vero Beach Resort
The Green Cabin Room
Shutters Restaurant
Sonya's Fine Steaks & Chops (Sunday Brunch not included)

Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin Resort
Il Mulino New York trattoria
Garden Grove
Kimonos
Shula's Steak House
Todd English's bluezoo
ESPN Wide World of Sports
ESPN Wide World of Sports Grill

AgentC
02-09-2012, 04:49 PM
Just thought of a couple more benefits, if you drive instead of taking Disney transportation you get free valet parking which is nice. Also if there is one while you are there, they have special TIW events.

The final perk is free parking but it would probably not normally apply to a DVC member since you would always have that when staying on site.

DizneyRox
02-09-2012, 07:09 PM
The 18% is on lounges as well.

And it is 18% across the board on the TS locations, buffet, family style, plated meals, etc. I guess V&A may be different, never checked into that. Still a savings, usually I'm a huge tipper, but when you surcharge me, that's all she wrote. I've usually drawn a line through the tip field before the server has left the table. Gratuity and surcharge just don't mix...

emmatink
02-10-2012, 10:22 AM
I have another unique question regarding the TIW card. We are annual pass holders and we currently have a TIW card. Is it possible to purchase another TIW card good for an additional 13 months just before our annual pass expires? Not sure if we will purchase another annual pass for next year but we probably will take one trip to Disney and would enjoy the discount for another year!

TinkerbellT421
02-10-2012, 10:35 AM
I have another unique question regarding the TIW card. We are annual pass holders and we currently have a TIW card. Is it possible to purchase another TIW card good for an additional 13 months just before our annual pass expires? Not sure if we will purchase another annual pass for next year but we probably will take one trip to Disney and would enjoy the discount for another year!

:confused: wow, that's a very good question...I'm interested to know the answer to this as well. Because my understanding is there is know way to "track" your TiW card which is why it costs $50.00 to replace it if you lose it, atleast that's what the CM at Guest Relations told us, so I would assume it's not "tied" in association with your AP, which would cause me to assume that if you have an AP whether it's expiring in such amount of days or not might not matter...There has to be a limitation? Maybe? I really don't know.... Hmmm, interesting question...

DizneyFreak2002
02-10-2012, 11:04 AM
Thanks for the information everyone... I'll look more into it before I decide on my next trip...

DizneyRox
02-10-2012, 01:07 PM
I'm not sure why you couldn't get another TiW card. It's another $75 for Disney.

If you have more than one person with an AP, just use one of the others to get a new TiW. There is no limitation I'm aware of as to when you can get a TiW card. You should be able to get it on the first day of your AP up to and including the last day.

You probably need to be there in person though to get the TiW card. Just wanted to throw that out.

Dyanna
02-10-2012, 06:01 PM
If we purchase the TIW card for our trip in Oct for the 8 of us (2 families) would the other family be able to pay for their portion of dinner on their cc & still be able to use our TIW discount if we are having the meal together?

TinkerbellT421
02-10-2012, 06:03 PM
If we purchase the TIW card for our trip in Oct for the 8 of us (2 families) would the other family be able to pay for their portion of dinner on their cc & still be able to use our TIW discount if we are having the meal together?

Yes:mickey: but I think it has to be all on the same bill, there cannot be two separate bills. So, you could pay your portion cash or credit card and they could pay their portion cash or credit card, but it has to be on "one bill" not two separate bills. At least that's my understanding, so if anyone has an experience they know about I am sure they will come by to clarify :)