MNSSHP - Rumors about Cheating the System

[Minnie4me]

I have heard a lot of rumors about MNSSHP that maybe someone can verify or correct.

Rumor has it that Disney does not close the park early to clear out the guests before the MNSSHP begins. They make an announcement requesting that all guests that do not have a ticket to the event to exit the park, but it really isn't enforced.

With that being said, if you get to the park before the event actually begins, you can just stay there and enjoy the same stuff (except for rides) that the MNSSHP ticket holders have paid extra money for. :mad:

Is this true????

Am I just wasting my money????

[Carol]

Is this true????No it is not. All guests attending must have a wristband. No wristband - no events/attractions.

[Minnie4me]

If you don't have a wristband, can you still stay in the park and watch the fireworks, the parade, the decorations, etc???

[Rekced]

from what I have seen/read about it works like this. Initially you will not be allowed on attractions without a wristbad after the specified time. Then they kind of work from the back of the park to the front of the park and kind of herd the non wrist band people out, and will not let people into those areas at all without a wristband. Believe they also stop people from going into the main street stores after a certain point too.

Something you probably could do would be to stand outside of the front gates and wait for the fireworks and watch them before getting on your bus. You will probably miss a bit of the experience of them but still get to see a good portion of it.

[Momof2boys]

They have 'checkpoints' set up to weed out the guests with no wristband. Last year I made a run to get another map and was asked not once, not twice, but 3 times to show my wristband by different CM's. I had on long sleeves & the bracelet wasn't easily seen.

[McGoofy]

The hours specifically say that MK closes to the public on those nights at 7:00pm because the entire park is dedicated to the MNSSHP. If you are already in the park before 7:00pm and you do not have MNSSHP tickets, plan on leaving. Those with MNSSHP tickets will be given wrist bands, and only those with wrist bands are allowed to stay. Last year we were there and we did not have MNSSHP tickets. We knew we couldn't ride the rides, but we thought we might be able to linger and see the special Halloween parade. That was definitely a "no-can-do!" The cast members are very efficient about weeding out those without wrist bands and make sure that you do not even stay to see the parade. Those with MNSSHP paid good money for their tickets, so they deserve to have the park all to themselves. If you want more park time at MK as well as parades and fireworks without purchasing MNSSHP tickets, the best bet would be to go on a night that there is no MNSSHP. Otherwise, you will be leaving at 7:00pm.

[JPL]

If you don't have a wristband, can you still stay in the park and watch the fireworks, the parade, the decorations, etc???

No you can not they clear the park and will escort guests without wristbands out of the park. I know when this practice first started there were many stories of people beating the system but dues to complaints of paying guests it has been corrected. I have heard that if you do not have a wristband and the party is not sold out they will inform and give you the oppurtunity to purchase a ticket.

[kathiep]

We arrived for the party on the 21st right before 7pm.

While we were walking down Main Street, there were more people walking out than in.

For about the first 45 minutes or so, there were waves of people heading to the exit.

[LoriMistress]

Yes, they start announcing the everyone in MK that the park will be official closed for non-party guests at 7pm. If guests who doesn't have a wristband for the party tries to get on any rides, eat at any restaurants, etc. and if they don't have a wristband, they will escort them out of the park.

So far there has been very little issues regarding this matter.

[tarjaybuff]

I do not want to pick a fight or make everyone mad, but people pay good money to have that "something special". Paying money to watch CMs try to force people out of the park is not much fun. It takes away from the atmosphere. Please don't try and cheat the system. I understand that it is a lot of money, and difficult to spend that much on such a short time, but it is worth it.

[JPL]

I agree but I don't blame the people as much as I blame Disney. They should go back to the old system of clearing the park instead of trying to squeeze every last penny out of the people who do not have party tickets. I can tell you this if people want something they can leave the park and go to DTD and buy it especially since most of what you can purchase on Main ST is available in the World of Disney or in the main gift shop of any other park or resort.

[MinnieMommie]

I do not want to pick a fight or make everyone mad, but people pay good money to have that "something special". Paying money to watch CMs try to force people out of the park is not much fun. It takes away from the atmosphere. Please don't try and cheat the system. I understand that it is a lot of money, and difficult to spend that much on such a short time, but it is worth it.

yes I agree. The event is well worth the price of admission. Purchasing the ticket is the way to go if you would like to fully experince and enjoy the event. :mickey:

[battle beast]

It sounds like cast members are almost rude when it comes to asking non-wristbanders to leave.

[JPL]

The only time I have seen a CM being rude to a guest when asking them to exit the park was when the guest ignored the CM and tried to double back around and sneak into the land or area they were refused admittance too.

[MsMin]

Last Dec. during MVMCP we got stuck in between the crowds. We had tickets but also had ADR's at Tony's. Most of our party headed toward Tony's @ 4:30ish and some were shopping. I went to check on the ressies and the CM's stopped me and said I couldn't go back and it was real early. I explained I had family in the shop and they let me go. After dinner and well before 7pm we had to get our bracelets @ the Rose Garden and were stopped several times going back up Main Street and we had tickets, just not bracelets yet. No one was rude only they would stop us and say you have to go this way and they had the street roped off slowly herding everyone in one direction this may have been about 6 by that time. So what they do is herd the crowd using ropes away from areas then only let the ticketed guest back in. You know Disney they are great w/ ushering ppl around the park. Now I know what a fish feels like in a net. The ticketed ppl are like the little fish that get through the holes!

[Sean Riley Taylor's Mom]

They were really tough about clearing the parks on both the 14th and 21st when we were there.

My DD 3 hates to wear the bracelets they give out. (Carnivals, fairs, etc, use them too). We asked at the main entrance if it would be a problem to put it on her ankle the first night. They said no problem and put it on her ankle. We had taken her to BBB that afternoon and she wore her Snow White dress so you could not really see the bracelet too well. We were asked at nearly every ride and meet and greet where her bracelet was. When we said her ankle, we literally had to left up her dress so they could see it. Even though the rest of us all had them visible.
One the 21st we made her wear it on her wrist and she thankfully got over it.
It was the first year we bought tickets to a special event and were pleased to see they were being fair to those who bought tickets and were courteous to those who were asked to leave.

[crltkcagle]

we were at the party on the 14th and arrived early. they started announcing at 6:30 that the park would close early. at 7:00 then made a new announcement and asked all non MNSSHP ticket holders to leave. After 7 there were cast members stationed EVERYWHERE and their eyes were fixated on peoples arms looking for the bright green wristbands.. We did see one family without wristbands who were escorted out of the park.

[mrsgaribaldi]

I don't like the wristband on, sometimes I feel the need to rip it off, especially if it's snug. It's not usually a problem when I have long sleeves on, they just put it on top and if I don't feel it I'm ok. When it's hot it freaks me out. It's a psych issue with me:blush:
Anyway, if you can afford the tickets I think it's well worth the money. At least one time it's fun:frank:

[DisneyDudet]

I remember way back in 2003 that they were enforcing the wristband issue quite heavily at the last MVMCP. We were asked to show wristbands before we entered and exited each land, as well before rides. I enjoy them checking for wristbands. Not so I can watch someone be escorted out, but the fact that they are wanting just ticket holders to attend.

[Disney Doll]

Ditto on the wrist band check. When we were there in Feb for the Pirate and Princess Party they had designated people at check points just before you entered each land. They were definitely checking for wrist bands. Maybe a handful of people slip through the cracks, but it seems as if Disney is pretty diligent about checking so I don't think many would be able to cheat their way in.

[mttafire]

It sounds like cast members are almost rude when it comes to asking non-wristbanders to leave.
Considering how some folks want something for nothing....I hope the cm's are rude!!:blush::thumbsup:

[mttafire]

The only time I have seen a CM being rude to a guest when asking them to exit the park was when the guest ignored the CM and tried to double back around and sneak into the land or area they were refused admittance too.

Agreed.

[MouseHouser]

My mom, gf and I attended part of Mickey's Christmas Party last year, and we didn't have wrist bands --*gasp*.

We were on our way out of the park, but heard the parade approaching and decided to drag our feet. We parked our butts on the wall in front of the post office near the park entrance. We were wearing long sleeves. The cm's didn't press the issue, and we stayed for the whole parade. I think we should be shot at sunrise.

Got back this morning from yet another fun week at the Dis. This time they got our fifty bucks, but for the Holloween Party instead. Great fun.

[DisneyDudet]

Maybe, now with the addition of the P&PP, they are getting more experience and figuring out what works and doesn't.

[magicman]

My mom, gf and I attended part of Mickey's Christmas Party last year, and we didn't have wrist bands --*gasp*.

We were on our way out of the park, but heard the parade approaching and decided to drag our feet. We parked our butts on the wall in front of the post office near the park entrance. We were wearing long sleeves. The cm's didn't press the issue, and we stayed for the whole parade. I think we should be shot at sunrise.


Areed.
:archer::faint::shot:

[CaptainJessicaSparrow]

I went as a guest before one of the parties (to meet Jack actually) and I was trying to go from Adventureland to by the Grotto to get to the Tunnel and I was stopped several times because I didn't have one and I kept trying to explain I needed to get down to my locker so I could change for work. And that was with my ID out...so it's not just the day guests, it's everyone, including us CMs.

All I'll say is that there is one way to do it....but I wouldn't tell anyone for the world.

And even knowing that one way, I still paid to go to P&P twice.

[disguy]

I was there on the 28th and there was a large number of families in full costume being led out with the day crowd around 6:45 or so. I wondered if they were going back to get wristbands at the gate or if they thought they could blend in with the party crowd.

By the way, I found longer lines during the party then there was in the morning. It looked like many more people are interested in paying the money for the party then there were a few years ago. To be honest, it sort of took away from the "get on every ride" concept I used to enjoy. At least there was trick or treating!!!:mickey:

[teambricker04]

We were there last year during christmas. When we were trying to leave before the party everyone else was and it was a NIGHTMARE! We got stuck at the end of mainstreet by a cm who was trying to do crowd control to ease the crowd onto main st. Finally, my DH had to go under the rope with our 2 year old who was in a stroller. Everyone had been tripping over it while we waited in the crowd. The CM screamed at him and would not let me follow. I was obviously pregnant at the time and could not get through and was being shoved around by everyone behind who didn't understand what the hold up was for. It was worse than any concert I have ever been to... poorly thought out and even rather scarey.

I recommend that if you don't have tix to be on your way out sooner than later. If you can miss the crowds on the way out, you'll be lucky. Especially with little kids.

[biodtl]

I saw people without wristbands being asked to leave, but the CMs were very polite (and efficient) about it.

[CaptainJessicaSparrow]

Unless you were the guest screaming at us about not wanting to celebrate our ' (insert bad word) pagan holiday' and that she has every right to shop until 9 pm. Of which, we called security and had her escorted out. The entire park has a hard closing at 7 pm, for the Emporium, we wait until 7:15.

For the record, there are about 20 signs that mention MNSSHP so you can't really use the excuse "Oh, I didn't know." It's a press event so it's mention in all media we have, there are announcements and signs and banners everywhere, including parking and right as you walk up to security for bag check.

For a quick history lesson, the basic concepts of both Easter and Christmas also date back to pagan beliefs and the winter/summer solstice.

[mouseketeer mom]

We've been to two MNSSHP's and 1 P and P party. All three times we were checked, and checked again. We always arrive on the earlier side of the party and have dinner in the park. I couldn't imagine anyone getting around the system, CM's were like hawks checking bracelets.

[Scar]

For a quick history lesson, the basic concepts of both Easter and Christmas also date back to pagan beliefs and the winter/summer solstice.You are partially correct. The concepts are not pagan, it’s the name “Easter” that is pagan, and the placement of the date of Christmas was picked to counter the pagan winter solstice.

[magicofdisney]

You are partially correct. The concepts are not pagan, it’s the name “Easter” that is pagan, and the placement of the date of Christmas was picked to counter the pagan winter solstice.
I hope this clarification isn't lost on those who would prefer to believe otherwise.

[Kairi_7378]

You can watch Hallowishes from the observation deck of the CA Grill if you are lucky enough to have a dinner reservation there. DH and I did this on Thursday evening. I'm sure that the fireworks were even better on the ground! I didn't feel like I was really cheating because we paid a lot for the dinner.
The signs at the front gates are at least 5 feet tall, and clearly state that MK is closing at 7. They even announce this on the buses going to MK on party days. But after the stories I heard from bus drivers this week about squatters in the parks, I can believe that people will try to get away with anything! Sheesh!