high school musical plagued with scandal!!!

[mulatoqt]

Is anyone willing to discuss the new scandal involving Vanessa Hudgens? Any word about what Disney plans to do next? What a messy situation. If anyone feels this topic is inappropriate for intercot, please feel free to take it down. I just wanted to find out how High School Musical fans are reacting and whether you'd let your children watch the third one if Disney decided not to fire her.

[ChipnDaleGal]

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[IC10]

From my understanding that she did not pose and they were private. Someone did not respect her privacy and wanted to ruin her career. Disney has decided to back her. As a parent I did not sit around the dinner table and discuss this with my kids if they hear about it at school I will tell them the truth. This is why you need to protect yourself at all cost and espcecially realize that even your so called "friends" can be horrible people sometimes. We all make mistakes I am sure she learned a lesson. I say yes my kids will be allowed to watch High School Musical three lets just hope they do not sing along at the top of their lungs again.

[ChipnDaleGal]

From my understanding that she did not pose and they were private. Someone did not respect her privacy and wanted to ruin her career. Disney has decided to back her. As a parent I did not sit around the dinner table and discuss this with my kids if they hear about it at school I will tell them the truth. This is why you need to protect yourself at all cost and espcecially realize that even your so called "friends" can be horrible people sometimes. We all make mistakes I am sure she learned a lesson. I say yes my kids will be allowed to watch High School Musical three lets just hope they do not sing along at the top of their lungs again.

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[tiaramom]

We must keep in mind that these are actors playing roles of squeaky clean kids. This isnt the actual lives these kids live. Understanding too- that these are role models ( that we/you the public created them to be. They are regular people , with regular lives and issues that arise. Dont condem them for being human.
Life happens. I will have no problem letting my child watch this next film- Its all a movie- and they are watching an actor portray a role.

[murphy1]

I think Disney stars have to be held to a higher standard than others. They are representing a well-respected brand. Even though we grown-ups know that the star and the character are separate, the kids sometimes forget (by kids, I mean younger like 8 or so). I am having a hard enough time trying to keep my kids from hearing about Lindsey, they love the movies like Parent Trap, Freaky Friday and Herbie. If this is the extent of it, my kids can keep watching the movie. Thank Goodness Pixar is around, too!

[PirateLover]

I feel badly for her. She is 18 years old, so she is an "adult" in the legal sense of the word and has the right to make her own decisions and I don't think she should be judged or lose jobs with Disney because of this photo. It was a private photo, and it's ashame it got leaked to the media. I think it was a little stupid of her to take that photo in the first place for the very reason that it could be seen by the wrong eyes. I think it is interesting that her team came out and admitted the photos were real. Most blogs that I read were assuming from the start that it was photoshopped.

In regards to letting children watch the movies/her....that is always a personal call, I guess. As far as I know the picture was just of her, that she took for her boyfriend and co-star. I didn't actually see it because I had no desire to see it, lol. But It doesn't sound like anything graphic or disrespectful and it's ashame that the media has to blow this up and make it into a scandal. I can understand it being reported on gossip rags, but it was also on the local news here. Completely unnecessary.
She is an actress. Many times people have trouble separating private life from the acting portion and I get that sometimes. But this doesn't really bother me. There are far worse things she could've done....

[mulatoqt]

I agree with what most of you said on here already, especially the part about her being an adul now. As an adult, she too bears the responsibility of her actions. She took pictures that had a possibility of becoming public. Apparantly there are also more and videos to come. It really is a terrible situation, for all involved I'm sure. I don't necessarily feel that bad for Vanessa, as she was the one that did this, but I feel very badly for Disney. On the one hand, they have an extremely wholesome, NON controversial image that they have worked hard for, but on the other hand, the High school Musical enterprise is at its peak. I do hope in this case that they choose image over money. Being a 21 year old, it is very frustrating trying to find an ator/actress that doesn't have nude photos leaked, and I'd rather Disney does not associate with those people. I think that what is best for everyone is that Disney deals with this situation professionally and then announce that there will not be a third film. Vanessa is extremely talented and I'm sure she can find work elsewhere, and the High school musical has had a good run, but I think if they make the third film, it will get a lot of negative press. I think its sad that had this happened say 20 years ago, they would be no question about what direction Disney would go, it seems nowadays, it's what actors/actresses do to jump start their career. Oh well. Sorry if I insulted any High School Musical fans:)

[ChipnDaleGal]

I doubt very much that poor Vanessa wanted any of this to happen. I feel bad for her. How many of us would want some of our teenage knuckleheaded stunts to be broadcast on the web? I think the embarrassment she is going through and what it must be doing to her family are more punishment that Disney could do her at this point. I am not really interested in these movies myself, but I would not stop my daughter from watching them based on this event.

[NotaGeek]

Hmmm. I think that this is an unfortunate situation. People make dumb decisions all the time, and I would say that she knew this stuff was out there, and unfortunately it all came out as soon as she had some money. I know the second I get famous those pics and films will come out and ruin my career too. Just kidding. :D

Who cares? She is an actress, she doesn't actually live in High School Musical. Life does exist beyone Disney ... and since they have made movies with MANY adult actors/actresses that aren't 100% perfect I don't really see the problem.

[merlinmagic4]

Yes, my kids could watch #3. I doubt they will even hear about this and really wouldn't understand it if they did. Poor girl......sometimes we do things as teenagers that we'd like to forget. Unfortunately, when you are a celebrity it becomes everyone else's business, too.

[Marker]

Everyone of us probably have moments in our lives that we wish we would have made a different choice. Hopefully, we didn't suffer the sort of judgement that some like mior ss Hudgens has been, and will likely continue to be.

She made a choice that she now very likely regrets. She as publicly apologized for it. What more should we ask? If we're worrying about what sort of lesson children might learn from this, well what lesson would they learn if we did not accept a sincere apology. If we fail to accept her apology then what lessons about forgiveness for our mistakes, or about being critically judgemental of others would we be demonstrating. Some will say that she should be a role model, but I would counter that statement by saying that the REAL role models for our children are us. With that in mind, what sort of behavior do you want to demonstrate?

The girl made a mistake, took responsibility for it, and then apologized for it. To me, that is being a role model. For me, I say drop it, and move on.

[NotaGeek]

The Associated Press
Updated: 3:35 p.m. MT Sept 7, 2007
NEW YORK - The Walt Disney Co. is sticking with the 18-year-old star of its wildly successful “High School Musical” franchise, despite her “lapse in judgment” in posing for racy photos that were leaked to the Internet.

The 18-year-old star of Disney Channel’s wildly successful “High School Musical” franchise apologized on Friday. The photos show a coquettishly smiling Hudgens posing naked in a bedroom with a red curtain behind her.

“I want to apologize to my fans, whose support and trust means the world to me,” Hudgens said in a statement. “I am embarrassed over this situation and regret having ever taken these photos. I am thankful for the support of my family and friends.”

Hudgens’ publicist, Jill Fritzo, wouldn’t say anything about who took the pictures and how they slipped out onto the Internet.

The Disney Channel (part of the Walt Disney Co.) denied a published report that Hudgens will be dropped from the upcoming feature film “High School Musical 3.” That movie is in development and negotiations with the stars are incomplete.

Disney had no further comment about the pictures.

Hudgens portrayed the bookworm love interest of Troy, the basketball star played by pinup king Zac Efron in the first two made-for-cable “High School Musical” movies. The sequel’s premiere on Disney Channel last month attracted more than 17 million viewers, making it the summer’s most-watched TV program.

She’s a superstar among the pre-teen set, and Disney has spun a wide merchandising net around the series with albums and concert tours. She and Efron reportedly date in real life.

The films’ wholesome nature — for a company that has made its name on family-friendly fare for generations — is a big part of its success. Parents of the largely pre-teen fan base can relax knowing their children are watching, knowing it won’t make for any uncomfortable questions.


Gabriella and Troy coo, they make googly eyes, they barely kiss. They certainly don’t show off nude pictures.

Disney shouldn't dump her
If Disney were to dump Hudgens for another actress, not wanting its name associated with anything not G-rated, it runs the risk of upsetting a formula that has made it millions.

How would parents explain to the show’s young fans that the old Gabriella had to go?

“That’s her private life, not her public life. That picture got leaked by somebody who broke a trust with her,” said Michele Smith of Westborough, Mass., whose 8-year-old daughter Kathryn is a devoted “High School Musical” fan.

Hudgens shouldn’t have to pay a price for the incident, Smith said, adding she was concerned that Disney’s image might prompt the company to take action against the actress.

Dropping her from future movies or other “High School Musical” projects would not only be unfair to Hudgens but to fans such as Kathryn, Smith said.

“If Vanessa is not in the movie, my daughter would not be so excited to see it,” she said.

Smith said she hopes that Kathryn doesn’t hear about the photo but, if she does, she’s prepared to talk about it. She’ll say that it’s something private for Vanessa that shouldn’t have been shared.

The best thing for Disney to do is nothing, said Michael Levine, a Hollywood image consultant and author of 18 books.

“What they shouldn’t do is make a bigger deal out of it than is necessary,” he said. “The picture is not salacious.”


Michael Sands, a publicist whose clients have included Britney Spears’ ex-husband Kevin Federline, said Hudgens should be commended for coming forward quickly and saying it was her picture.

He also advised Disney to stand by her.

“This is a big cash cow for Disney,” Sands said.

[snifflesmcg]

Hmmm. I think that this is an unfortunate situation. People make dumb decisions all the time, and I would say that she knew this stuff was out there, and unfortunately it all came out as soon as she had some money. I know the second I get famous those pics and films will come out and ruin my career too. Just kidding. :D

Who cares? She is an actress, she doesn't actually live in High School Musical. Life does exist beyone Disney ... and since they have made movies with MANY adult actors/actresses that aren't 100% perfect I don't really see the problem.

:exactly: Is this REALLY a big deal? No, not in my opinion. I didn't read much about this because frankly, I'm not all that interested Disney Channel shows and don't know anything about them. I do know I read a headline that read "Disney backs actress". I guess she's safe.

[merlinmagic4]

:exactly: Is this REALLY a big deal? No, not in my opinion. I didn't read much about this because frankly, I'm not all that interested Disney Channel shows and don't know anything about them. I do know I read a headline that read "Disney backs actress". I guess she's safe.

I actually had not even heard it until I read it here! Nope, not a big deal!

[fig's disney]

Well.....in the words of Hannah Montanna.....

"Nobody's perfect.......everybody makes mistakes....."

[Figaro]

Personally, I feel bad for her. Things like that are meant to stay private and it's sad that someone would take advantage of her. It's nice to see Disney is backing her. She meant no harm. She's only human. I'll watch HM3 and support it. :mickey: :thumbsup:

[Disney Babe]

Actually, my thoughts when I read the story last night were, "That poor girl, she's only 18 and being exploited." I don't think of her as an adult. I didn't think of my nieces as adults at 18 (I don't have children, but am close to my nieces). I'd be spitting nails if someone did that to them.

That said, curiousity got the better of me and I did a Google Image search. Well, I guess they were taken down or they are very hard to access, so it's mostly a tempest in a teapot. I would definitely think differently if she had sought out Mr. Flynt, but that is totally not the case. That being said, some of the pictures I did see, publicity I assume, she is smiling rather coyly and looking pretty sexy (in an innocent, Lolita type way) so I think she is being marketed that way. It's probably a good thing this happened now. It will help her to be aware of how she is managed and marketed before it ever gets out of hand.

I have had the opportunity to watch parts of High School Musical recently. Personally, I don't see why it is so successful. I find the music annoying. In addition, I see it as emphasizing images of beauty and popularity and for that reason, no I won't want my children (girls especially) watching it. Nothing to do with this little scandal. Sorry to say, but I think it is just glorifying the typical "popular" looks. Most likely I wouldn't turn on the Disney Channel for my pre-teen/tween/teen girls. I felt a little differently a few years back. It just seems to be all about star making and pushing ideas of what's in onto kids. Kids have enough pressure. I would rather they grow up with independent thought.

I think that Disney kind of got stuck between a rock and a hard place. HSM and their stable of actresses, actors, singers aimed at the tweens/teens are huge money makers. They need to protect that. The girl make a dumb mistake (especially for someone in the business) and was exploited because of it. At least, it seems that way. So, really there is no choice but to stand by her. It's the only right decision in this case.

I would rather show the kids in my family Haily Mills and Annette, though. Walt had standards for them that I admire. He also had work for them that I admire. Annette may have done a lot of beach movies in her adulthood, but she always upheld that standard that Walt Disney set.

[Carol]

In addition, I see it as emphasizing images of beauty and popularity and for that reason,Perhaps you should watch the entire movie! That is actually what they are not promoting.

[mulatoqt]

I think you have to remember who the stars in the film are however and who are on the covers of the magazines, all impossibly goodlooking people. A little ironic I think, given the supposed message of the film. I prefer films like Hairspray, who have lovable characters that are not a size 2. And as mentioned before, Disney used to have a much different standard for their stars than they do now. Enough with the Lindsays/Britneys/Vanessas!! However, that said, I think the music in High School Musical is extremely catchy!!

[Disney Babe]

I don't care what the storyline of HSM is or what it is supposed to be promoting. The kids are made to look "perfect" and to have a certain image. The girls look like made up barbie dolls. Don't mean to offend anyone that may love HSM. Maybe I will sit down and watch it, but I will probably be complaining all the way through.

Hey, I was a tween in the 60's and a teen in the 70's - I'd rather watch the original Stepford Wives. There is a definite message with that movie.

BTW, just out of curiosity are there any major black characters in HSM?

Several people have mentioned Lindsay. Ifell in love with her acting in Parent Trap and think she was (and is) adorable. I wish that she had the guidance of Walt, as the early Disney actresses did.

[NotaGeek]

I don't care what the storyline or HSM is or what it is supposed to be promoting. The kids are made to look "perfect" and to have a certain image. The girls look like made up barbie dolls. Don't mean to offend anyone that may love HSM. Maybe I will sit down and watch it, but I will probably be complaining all the way through.

Hey, I was a tween in the 60's and a teen in the 70's - I'd rather watch the original Stepford Wives. There is a definite message with that movie.

BTW, just out of curiosity are there any major black characters in HSM?
Yes, there are 2 major black characters in HSM, Chad and Taylor. I don't, however, remember 1 single person of color in the original cast of Walt's Mickey Mouse Club.

There was JUST as much type casting back then, it's no different now. Cute people are in the movies, and on television.

[Pipalotta]

I have seen the pictures and I personally dont find anything graphic about them. We as a society are the ones who villianize the naked body. We are all born naked correct? It wasnt until someone decided to make the naked form sexual that it became an up roar.

Yes she is young but what she did was something in private. She didnt pose for a magaizine or even make one of those imfamous tapes that "somehow" always get leaked.

Im a nanny for three little girls would still let them watch the movies. They look up to the character not the actual actress.

Life goes on and who knows, she may become even more famous because of this.

[murphy1]

The Associated Press


Disney shouldn't dump her
If Disney were to dump Hudgens for another actress, not wanting its name associated with anything not G-rated, it runs the risk of upsetting a formula that has made it millions.

How would parents explain to the show’s young fans that the old Gabriella had to go?

“That’s her private life, not her public life. That picture got leaked by somebody who broke a trust with her,” said Michele Smith of Westborough, Mass., whose 8-year-old daughter Kathryn is a devoted “High School Musical” fan.

Hudgens shouldn’t have to pay a price for the incident, Smith said, adding she was concerned that Disney’s image might prompt the company to take action against the actress.

Dropping her from future movies or other “High School Musical” projects would not only be unfair to Hudgens but to fans such as Kathryn, Smith said.

“If Vanessa is not in the movie, my daughter would not be so excited to see it,” she said.

Smith said she hopes that Kathryn doesn’t hear about the photo but, if she does, she’s prepared to talk about it. She’ll say that it’s something private for Vanessa that shouldn’t have been shared.

The best thing for Disney to do is nothing, said Michael Levine, a Hollywood image consultant and author of 18 books.

“What they shouldn’t do is make a bigger deal out of it than is necessary,” he said. “The picture is not salacious.”


Michael Sands, a publicist whose clients have included Britney Spears’ ex-husband Kevin Federline, said Hudgens should be commended for coming forward quickly and saying it was her picture.

He also advised Disney to stand by her.

“This is a big cash cow for Disney,” Sands said.


Thanks for posting that, Michael. That is exactly the way I feel with my 8 yo daughter.

The guy who is publicist for Brtiney should help HER out these days.

[MNNHFLTX]

Who cares? She is an actress, she doesn't actually live in High School Musical. Life does exist beyone Disney ... and since they have made movies with MANY adult actors/actresses that aren't 100% perfect I don't really see the problem.My thoughts exactly. In fact, since my son is older (15) we used the situation to start a discussion with him about making sound decisions in life and about making sure that those closest to you are people you can trust. Unfortunately, that saying "to err is human" is right on. My son likes High School Musical, but he understands that the people starring in the movies are actors and actresses that are just as prone to a bad judgement call as anyone else. That's just life.

[thrillme]

Oh heavens to Betsy...If I stopped watching particular programs or making my DS stop particular programs because an actor did something that I felt was more than "G-Rated" either on purpose, accidentally, or because they "made a mistake" when they were younger. There are a LOT of great movies and sitcoms that we'd miss out on.

So what...some "less than complimentary" pictures of her when she was younger were published...it really has NOTHING to do with the show. My DS really isn't interested in the show because it's too "lovey dovey" for him and it lacks monsters and super heros...but IF he liked it... I definately wouldn't have him stop watching it because of a few naked pictures of one of the stars (unless of course they were showing those pictures DURING the program - but then that would be a whole new ballgame huh?).

And Plu-eeze...the number of stars that have posed either "for money "or "privately"... has got to be ENORMOUS. Eurpoeans must be laughing at us for making this such a big deal to begin with.

[Disney Babe]

Yes, there are 2 major black characters in HSM, Chad and Taylor. I don't, however, remember 1 single person of color in the original cast of Walt's Mickey Mouse Club.

There was JUST as much type casting back then, it's no different now. Cute people are in the movies, and on television.

You make a good point about the Mickey Mouse Club and I do remember watching (mostly reruns) the teen installments with Annette and the rest and thinking they were a little too "perfect".

[Disney Babe]

Thrillme, I feel the same way as your son! Only I'm not wishing for monsters, etc. The two or three scenes that I watched from HSM seem a little to "mushy". There's something a little too sticky sweet about the way the kids sing.

I'm probably kind of biased because I really don't like movies when people get all head up about the stars and crush on them, etc. They are only people. It really turns me off and creeps me out!

[thrillme]

Thrillme, I feel the same way as your son! Only I'm not wishing for monsters, etc. The two or three scenes that I watched from HSM seem a little to "mushy". There's something a little too sticky sweet about the way the kids sing.

I'm probably kind of biased because I really don't like movies when people get all head up about the stars and crush on them, etc. They are only people. It really turns me off and creeps me out!

Oh my...I definately don't want my "reputation" to be blown. I'm a big Monster, Superhero and Harry Potter fan too...just like my DS :blush:..I really don't watch this but I've caught a little following something else I had the TV on for.

It's way too mushy for me but my niece and nephew seem to like it a bunch.

Now maybe if Godzilla came stomping through the high school...:D

[Marker]

It's way too mushy for me but my niece and nephew seem to like it a bunch.


Then, unless I'm wrong, it's a success for it's target audience, the kids. I wouldn't expect it to have a huge adult fan base. It is the Disney Channel after all.

[Melanie]

Then, unless I'm wrong, it's a success for it's target audience, the kids. I wouldn't expect it to have a huge adult fan base. It is the Disney Channel after all.

Exactly!!! :thumbsup:

[PirateLover]

I'm probably kind of biased because I really don't like movies when people get all head up about the stars and crush on them, etc. They are only people. It really turns me off and creeps me out!

But these types of movies/tv shows have been around forever, it's nothing new. The truth is tween girls are boy crazy. You never had a crush on a celeb when you were young? I remember when I was in 8th grade, I had many crushes! We were on a class trip to NYC and just across the street from where we were, Ricky Martin was signing autographs at Tower Records. This was hot off the heels of "Cup of Life" and "Livin La Vida Loca" and my friends and I thought he was gorgeous! We begged our teacher to let us go and she kept saying no. Then my one friend asked her if she ever had a crush on David Cassidy when she was our age and she blushed and tried to change the subject. Girls (and boys!) were screaming their heads off for Frank Sinatra, Elvis, The Beatles, NKOTB, Backstreet Boys, N Sync. Every generation has a craze and HSM belongs to this generation. I personally couldn't sit through 10 minutes of it, but I would rather have kids watching wholesome entertainment than horror flicks and vulgar TV.