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caryrae
07-16-2007, 11:52 AM
Some people may not know you should not just throw these new light bulbs in the garbage and it can be a little dangerous if one should break since it does contain a small amount of mercury.


Information on Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs (CFLs) and Mercury


Why should people use CFLs?
Switching from traditional light bulbs to CFLs is an effective, accessible change every American can make right now to reduce energy use at home and prevent greenhouse gas emissions that contribute to global climate change. Lighting accounts for close to 20 percent of the average home’s electric bill. Changing to CFLs costs little upfront and provides a quick return on investment.

If every home in America replaced just one incandescent light bulb with an ENERGY STAR qualified CFL, it would save enough energy to light more than 3 million homes and prevent greenhouse gas emissions equivalent to those of more than 800,000 cars annually.

Do CFLs contain mercury?

CFLs contain a very small amount of mercury sealed within the glass tubing – an average of 5 milligrams, which is roughly equivalent to an amount that would cover the tip of a ball-point pen. No mercury is released when the bulbs are intact or in use. By comparison, older thermometers contain about 500 milligrams of mercury. It would take 100 CFLs to equal that amount.

Mercury currently is an essential component of CFLs and is what allows the bulb to be an efficient light source. Many manufacturers have taken significant steps to reduce mercury used in their fluorescent lighting products. In fact, the average amount of mercury in a CFL is anticipated to drop by the end of 2007, thanks to technology advances and a commitment from the members of the National Electrical Manufacturers Association.

What precautions should I take when using CFLs in my home?

CFLs are made of glass and can break if dropped or roughly handled. Be careful when removing the bulb from its packaging, installing it, or replacing it. Always screw and unscrew the lamp by its base (not the glass), and never forcefully twist the CFL into a light socket. If a CFL breaks in your home, follow the clean-up recommendations below. Used CFLs should be disposed of properly (see below).

What should I do with a CFL when it burns out?

EPA recommends that consumers take advantage of local recycling options for compact fluorescent light bulbs, where available. EPA is working with CFL manufacturers and major U.S. retailers to expand disposal options. Consumers can contact their local municipal solid waste agency directly, or go to www.lamprecycle.org and click on “State Lamp Recycling Regulations & Contacts” to identify local recycling options.
If your state permits you to put used or broken CFLs in the garbage, seal the CFL in two plastic bags and put into the outside trash. CFLs should not be disposed of in an incinerator.

ENERGY STAR qualified CFLs have a warranty. If the bulb has failed within the warranty period, return it to your retailer.

How should I clean up a broken fluorescent bulb?

EPA recommends the following clean-up and disposal guidelines:

1. Open a window and leave the room (restrict access) for at least 15 minutes.

2. Remove all materials you can without using a vacuum cleaner.
�� Wear disposable rubber gloves, if available (do not use your bare hands).
�� Carefully scoop up the fragments and powder with stiff paper or cardboard.
�� Wipe the area clean with a damp paper towel or disposable wet wipe.
�� Sticky tape (such as duct tape) can be used to pick up small pieces and powder.

3. Place all cleanup materials in a plastic bag and seal it.
�� If your state permits you to put used or broken CFLs in the garbage, seal the CFL in two plastic bags and put into the outside trash (if no other disposal or recycling options are available).
�� Wash your hands after disposing of the bag.

4. The first time you vacuum the area where the bulb was broken, remove the vacuum bag once done cleaning the area (or empty and wipe the canister) and put the bag and/or vacuum debris, as well as the cleaning materials, in two sealed plastic bags in the outdoor trash or protected outdoor location for normal disposal.
What is mercury?

Mercury is an element (Hg on the periodic table) found naturally in the environment. Mercury emissions in the air can come from both natural and man-made sources. Utility power plants (mainly coal-fired) are the largest man-made source, because mercury that naturally exists in coal is released into the air when coal is burned to make electricity. Energy efficient CFLs present an opportunity to prevent mercury emissions from entering the environment because they help to reduce emissions from coal-fired power plants. Coal-fired power generation accounts for roughly 40 percent of the mercury emissions in the U.S.
EPA is implementing policies to reduce airborne mercury emissions. Under regulations EPA issued in 2005, mercury emissions from coal-fired power plants will drop by nearly 70 percent by 2018.

For more information on all sources of mercury, visit http://www.epa.gov/mercury.
EPA is continually reviewing its clean-up and disposal recommendations for CFLs to ensure that the Agency presents the most up-to-date information for consumers and businesses.

Melanie
07-16-2007, 04:51 PM
I'll give a hearty AMEN to this warning!

My mom accidently dropped and broke one of these bulbs back at the end of April, and didn't clean it up properly. She is still dealing with the effects from the mercury exposure to this day, and seems to have a long road ahead of her. It's been very scary!!! :(

If you do happen to break one, open doors and windows immediately. Use gloves when cleaning up and place everything in a plastic baggy and seal. Do not place in the regular trash. You will need to find out how things are handled locally in your area for disposal of these bulbs.

Do not, and I repeat, DO NOT use a vacuum cleaner to clean up.

All in all, it just doesn't seem worth the risk to have these in any home. I hope the word gets out soon about these bulbs, and they are removed from the market.

caryrae
07-16-2007, 05:40 PM
I first heard how bad they can be when my dad told me he heard of someone who had one or more than one (I can't remember what he said exactly) brake in their home and it cost thousands of dollars to have their house cleaned because of the mercury in the bulbs.

I found the story:

Consumers in dark over risks of new light bulbs
Push for energy-saving fluorescents ignores mercury disposal hazards

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Posted: April 16, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Joseph Farah
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com



Brandy Bridges of Prospect, Maine, shows a newspaper insert promoting the type of CFL (compact fluorescent lamp) bulbs she says have caused elevated levels of mercury in her home upon breaking (photo courtesy: Ellison American)

WASHINGTON – Brandy Bridges heard the claims of government officials, environmentalists and retailers like Wal-Mart all pushing the idea of replacing incandescent light bulbs with energy-saving and money-saving compact fluorescent lamps.

So, last month, the Prospect, Maine, resident went out and bought two dozen CFLs and began installing them in her home. One broke. A month later, her daughter's bedroom remains sealed off with plastic like the site of a hazardous materials accident, while Bridges works on a way to pay off a $2,000 estimate by a company specializing in environmentally sound cleanups of the mercury inside the bulb.

With everyone from Al Gore to Wal-Mart to the Environmental Protection Agency promoting CFLs as the greatest thing since, well, the light bulb, consumers have been left in the dark about a problem they will all face eventually – how to get rid of the darn things when they burn out or, worse yet, break.

CFLs are all the rage. They are the spirally shaped, long-lasting bulbs everyone is being urged, cajoled and guilt-tripped into purchasing to replace Thomas Edison's incandescents, which are being compared to sports utility vehicles for their impracticality and energy inefficiency. However, there is no problem disposing of incandescents when their life is over. You can throw them in the trash can and they won't hurt the garbage collector. They won't leech deadly compounds into the air or water. They won't kill people working in the landfills.

The same cannot be said about the mercury-containing CFLs. They bear disposal warnings on the packaging. But with limited recycling prospects and the problems experienced by Brandy Bridges sure to be repeated millions of times, some think government, the green community and industry are putting the cart before the horse marketing the new technology so ferociously.

Consider her plight.

When the bulb she was installing in a ceiling fixture of her 7-year-old daughter's bedroom crashed to the floor and broke into the shag carpet, she wasn't sure what to do. Knowing about the danger of mercury, she called Home Depot, the retail outlet that sold her the bulbs.

According to the Ellison American, the store warned her not to vacuum the carpet and directed her to call the poison control hotline in Prospect, Maine. Poison control staffers suggested she call the Maine Center for Disease Control and Prevention and the Maine Department of Environmental Protection.

The latter sent over a specialist to test the air in her house for mercury levels. While the rest of the house was clear, the area of the accident was contaminated above the level considered safe. The specialist warned Bridges not to clean up the bulb and mercury powder by herself – recommending a local environmental cleanup firm.

That company estimated the cleanup cost, conservatively, at $2,000. And, no, her homeowners insurance won't cover the damage.

Since she could not afford the cleanup, Bridges has been forced to seal off her daughter's bedroom with plastic to avoid any dust blowing around. Not even the family pets are permitted in to the bedroom. Her daughter is forced to sleep downstairs in an overcrowded household.

She has continued to call public officials for help – her two U.S. senators included. So far, no one is beating down Bridges' door to help – not even Al Gore, whose Academy Award-winning movie, "An Inconvenient Truth," urges everyone to change to CFLs to save the planet from global warming.


Bridges is not alone.

Elizabeth Doermann of Vanderbilt, Tenn., had a similar experience. After her CFL bulb broke – because the cat knocked over a lamp – she didn't call Home Depot. Instead, she did what she had always done when old-fashioned incandescent bulbs had broken. She vacuumed up the mess.

Only then did she learn about the mercury hazard.

"If I had known it had mercury in it, I would have been a lot more careful," she told the Tennessean. "I wouldn't have vacuumed it up. That blew the mercury probably all through the house."

The warnings on the packages of some of the new bulbs are in fine print – hard to read. They are also voluntary, with many bulbs being sold and distributed with no disposal warnings at all.

Charmain Miles of Toronto, Canada, had another frightening experience with a CFL bulb.

Last month she smelled smoke on the second floor of her home, only to discover it was emanating from a new energy-efficient bulb.

"I was horrified," she told a local TV station. "I went through every place upstairs and took out every bulb."

The bulb had been placed in a track-lighting fixture. Though the bulb contained no warning about such fixtures, it turns out CFLs are not for use in track, recessed or dimmer fixtures.

merlinmagic4
07-16-2007, 05:48 PM
Is it true that these bulbs should not be used in covered overhead light fixtures (you know, on the ceiling with a glass cover over it)?

caryrae
07-16-2007, 05:57 PM
Is it true that these bulbs should not be used in covered overhead light fixtures (you know, on the ceiling with a glass cover over it)?

Yes I guess it's true. I just posted the story above saying it should not be used in track lighting, recessed or on a dimmer.

Tink&Goofy
07-16-2007, 08:08 PM
I'm just amazed that these things are even legal to sell - let alone that they are far from "green" and they were originally intended. I have shyed away from them because of the disposal issue (how is creating toxic waste "better" for the environment?). I never really considered the danger of breakage in the home. My husband brought home 2 of them a couple weeks ago (without me knowing) and installed them in our kitchen recessed lighting, but I don't like the light they give, they take some time to "warm up" and come on completely, and with the danger, they are not worth it. Now to figure out how to dispose of them.....

BronxTigger
07-17-2007, 11:41 PM
I'll give a hearty AMEN to this warning!

My mom accidently dropped and broke one of these bulbs back at the end of April, and didn't clean it up properly. She is still dealing with the effects from the mercury exposure to this day, and seems to have a long road ahead of her. It's been very scary!!! :(

If you do happen to break one, open doors and windows immediately. Use gloves when cleaning up and place everything in a plastic baggy and seal. Do not place in the regular trash. You will need to find out how things are handled locally in your area for disposal of these bulbs.

Do not, and I repeat, DO NOT use a vacuum cleaner to clean up.

All in all, it just doesn't seem worth the risk to have these in any home. I hope the word gets out soon about these bulbs, and they are removed from the market.

Can I ask what kind of effects she is having? I broke one the other day and didn't know about all this. Fortunately, I don't have an a/c so my windows are always open and it broke next to a window, we don't use a vacuum, and I had left the room for about 15 minutes to find the dustpan. I don't notice myself having any health problems but I don't know what to look for either.

I had one of those lights burn out in about a week. It was really odd how short it lasted. Also, they are terrible with dimmer switches...they flicker so much. I had switched over to those bulbs but I am now switching back.

And, HOW are we supposed to dispose of them?

merlinmagic4
07-18-2007, 06:46 AM
And, HOW are we supposed to dispose of them?

Our Wal Mart has a box in the store where you can bring the bulbs.

Jeri
07-18-2007, 08:15 AM
We have some of these in our house. I asked my husband about them and he said they now are making them for dimmers, he also said it is not that unsafe as long as you are carefull.

I should add his family owns a Ace Hardware store, so they researched them alot to be able to provide the best advise and info for their customers. We just take the old ones to his work to recycle them. Anyone in the community can bring them there along with household batteries too.

I don't think we will stop using them anytime soon, acording to him.

If you have one that burnt out real early you should be able to take it back to the store and get a new one for free. Atleast that is what my husbands store does.

Melanie
07-18-2007, 08:16 AM
Can I ask what kind of effects she is having? I broke one the other day and didn't know about all this. Fortunately, I don't have an a/c so my windows are always open and it broke next to a window, we don't use a vacuum, and I had left the room for about 15 minutes to find the dustpan. I don't notice myself having any health problems but I don't know what to look for either.

Sounds like you did a lot of things right in your cleanup and didn't even know it! :thumbsup:

Main effects are headaches, short term memory loss/confusion and sleeping 16-17 hours a day. Sad thing is, there is really nothing you can do about it except let it run it's course. One thing that has really helped my mom is sitting outside and soaking up a good 30 minutes of sun/Vitamin D every day.

Good luck and I hope you didn't get enough exposure to cause yourself any harm. :)

CanadianWDWFan
07-18-2007, 08:29 AM
I can see the merit of using the CFL, but I am begining to think think that the risks might out weigh the benefits.

Here in Canada one of our most respected and outspoken environmentalists (David Suzuki for those who are wondering) is pushing for the use of these CFL's. I was wondering why he was pushing these bulbs if the mercury contained within them poses such a health risk. Recently there was a side bar put on his website about keeping the hazards in persective. The only thing that it says to do in case of breakage is to follow the EPA or Environment Canada's guidelines and nothing else. There doesn't seem to be much concern placed on the hazards just the merits.

I have these CFL's in many places around the house, now I am wondering is I should reconsider where I have placed them.

Horizon93
07-18-2007, 11:44 AM
So far, we are only using them for outdoor lighting. They do a good job and we figure that they do not pose as high a risk outside.

magicofdisney
07-20-2007, 10:17 PM
I think we had one of these break on us a few months back and I don't even remember how we handled it. Obviously we haven't done our research because I didn't realize there was mercury in them. I have to say I'll be inclined to stay away from them at this point. Once the ones I have are burned out, I may not be replacing them. I'm sure we don't have a recycling program here to take care of them. As a side note, our county just recently took away our battery recycling program. I get so irritated with this stuff at times.

PAYROLL PRINCESS
07-20-2007, 10:35 PM
I had an energy audit done by our power company a couple of months ago and they gave me 2 dozen of these bulbs. The rep. never mentioned anything about the hazards of these bulbs. I have them in just about every lamp/light in the house. I think maybe I'll change back to the other ones now. I don't want to take a chance and have my nephews be around and have one break. My 4 year old nephew has a serious health condition as it is. I don't want to give him any other problems. I wonder if I can give them back to the electric company?