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02-20-2012, 05:08 PM
#1021
Originally Posted by squad51
2. Did I answer this already? They were build by Lima Locomotive Works in 1928. That also happens to be the same year Walt created Mickey.
I thought it was the Baldwin Locomotive Works in 1925? That is what the brass plate says on Walter E. Disney.
The two locomotives are considered twins and were built for the Yucatan Railways. Mr. Broggie found them in a boneyard in Mexico. Walter E. Disney was originally engine number 274 and Roger E. Broggie was number 275.
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02-20-2012, 05:17 PM
#1022
1) What is the oldest theme-park attraction ride vehicle/"conveyance" at Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom?
The steam train Roy O. Disney was built in 1916 although it did not debut until two months after the opening of the Magic Kingdom.
The train is only one year older than Prince Charming Regal Carrousel.
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02-20-2012, 05:35 PM
#1023
Originally Posted by Main Street Jim
4) How many locomotives were bought for Anaheim's?
5) What was unique about the Disneyland Railroad's first two trains?
4) Five
5) Built in the Walt Disney Studios? The other three were built by the Baldwin Locomotive Works.
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02-20-2012, 05:37 PM
#1024
7) Lilly Belle
8) WDW's Magic Kingdom (she is #2 and is green)
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02-20-2012, 07:51 PM
#1025
Originally Posted by Main Street Jim
1) What is the oldest theme-park attraction ride vehicle/"conveyance" at Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom?
badkitty got this one; the Roy O. Disney steam train - built in 1916 by Baldwin Locomotive Works - is indeed one year older than prince Charming's Regal Carrousel.
2) What is unique about the steam locomotives Walter E. Disney and Roger E. Broggie at Walt Disney World?
badkitty again got this *partly* right: "The two locomotives are considered twins", because, yes, they are both what are known as "4-6-0's", or "ten-wheelers". But there's also one more unique fact about the two locomotives (and it's not their sequential train numbers, either).
3) How many locomotives were purchased for Florida's Magic Kingdom?
Joannelet got this one; five trains were purchased for Florida from Yucatan. However, that fifth one was in such poor condition that when it was unloaded off of the trailer, it literally *fell apart* as it came down the ramp.
4) How many locomotives were bought for Anaheim's?
5) What was unique about the Disneyland Railroad's first two trains?
badkitty *almost* got this one; if she <? - I'm hoping...LOL> read her answer to #5, she should have had the answer to #4 The first two steam trains for Disneyland were indeed built *by* Disney, so that would mean that the last three trains were actually purchased.
*However*...the *correct* answer that I was looking for, for #5, was that one train was a "passenger" train, only making stops at Main Street, USA. The second train was the "freight train", only stopping at Frontierland. The trains would actually pass each other with "sidings" (train tracks side-by-side) at each station, and the conductors would have to actually switch the tracks when "their" train was stopped, so that the other could pass.
6) What was the name of the 1/8th scale railroad that Walt had built in his backyard?
Joannelet got this one - it was the Carolwood Pacific.
7) What name did Walt give to his locomotive on that railroad?
8) Where else can you find a locomotive of the same name as #7 above?
badkitty got both of these The Lilly Belle, which is found "full-scale" at Florida's Magic Kingdom. **Side note: Miss Lilly Belle was the train that I learned how to operate a steam train on. A lot of the other engineers thought she was a pain in you-know-what, but, I *loved* that locomotive. I looked forward to the weekends when I could operate her for the morning Welcome show. I also think she's the most photogenic, with the green, red, and gold She is currently under a MAJOR refurbishment at Strasburg, PA.
9) How many station stops are there at a) Disneyland's railroad, and b) at Florida's WDWRR?
badkitty got part "a"; Joannelet got part of part "b" Yes, there are *currently* only the two stops, but, there are really three (Mickey's ToonTown Fair, soon to become the new Fantasyland station)
10) Why was Florida's Frontierland train station moved to its current location?
squad51 got this one Yep, because of the construction of Splash Mountain.
So: these have all been answered for the most part I'd still like to see if anyone can tell me what is still unique about the two ten-wheelers (Walter and Roger)
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02-20-2012, 08:51 PM
#1026
Originally Posted by Main Street Jim
So: these have all been answered for the most part I'd still like to see if anyone can tell me what is still unique about the two ten-wheelers (Walter and Roger)
The Walter E. Disney and Roger E. Broggie locomotives have serial numbers that are sequential (58444 and 58445). These locomotives were on the shop floor at the same time in 1925 as they were being built for the United Railways of Yucatan and still operate together to this day. Because of this, they are referred to as the "twins".
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02-20-2012, 09:12 PM
#1027
Originally Posted by Joannelet
The Walter E. Disney and Roger E. Broggie locomotives have serial numbers that are sequential (58444 and 58445). These locomotives were on the shop floor at the same time in 1925 as they were being built for the United Railways of Yucatan and still operate together to this day. Because of this, they are referred to as the "twins".
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a *winnah*!!
That's the answer I was looking for
By the way, the steam trains at Walt Disney World were built in 1916 (Roy O. Disney, #4), 1925 (Walter E. Disney #1, and Roger E. Broggie #3), and 1928 (Lilly Belle, #2).
At Anahiem, the trains were built in 1895 (#3 Fred Gurley), 1902 (#5 Ward Kimball), 1925 (#4 Ernest Marsh), and 1955 (#1 C.K. Holliday and #2 E.P. Ripley).
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02-21-2012, 12:29 PM
#1028
Originally Posted by Main Street Jim
badkitty *almost* got this one; if she <? - I'm hoping...LOL> read her answer to #5, she should have had the answer to #4 The first two steam trains for Disneyland were indeed built *by* Disney, so that would mean that the last three trains were actually purchased.
*However*...the *correct* answer that I was looking for, for #5, was that one train was a "passenger" train, only making stops at Main Street, USA. The second train was the "freight train", only stopping at Frontierland. The trains would actually pass each other with "sidings" (train tracks side-by-side) at each station, and the conductors would have to actually switch the tracks when "their" train was stopped, so that the other could pass.
Oh, duh. Built two, purchased three.
I remember my nana talking about the two trains running side by side.
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02-21-2012, 12:36 PM
#1029
Originally Posted by Main Street Jim
badkitty got both of these The Lilly Belle, which is found "full-scale" at Florida's Magic Kingdom. **Side note: Miss Lilly Belle was the train that I learned how to operate a steam train on. A lot of the other engineers thought she was a pain in you-know-what, but, I *loved* that locomotive. I looked forward to the weekends when I could operate her for the morning Welcome show. I also think she's the most photogenic, with the green, red, and gold She is currently under a MAJOR refurbishment at Strasburg, PA.
Oh, how thrilling for you! I am such a big fan of the Disney steam trains. The railroad is actually my favorite attraction on both coasts. How exciting that you were an engineer. If it wasn't for the FL humidity, I would love to be an engineer.
I have some wonderful photos of the Lilly Belle when I was on the Behind the Stream tour.
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03-01-2012, 05:44 AM
#1030
I blinked and missed the last round but we are planning to do the "Behind The Steam Trains" tour during our next trip to WDW
Here're a few more questions...
1) How many animatronic versions of Ellen are there within "The Universe of Energy" attraction?
2) What are the ingredients of the Evil Queen's "Evil Brew" in Snow White?
3) Which BTMRR is the longest (WDW, Paris or California)? Bonus if you can provide the track lengths
4) To who and what did Tramp describe as a "log puller"?
5) Which Disney Imagineer is remembered in the Haunted mansion's graveyard?
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03-01-2012, 12:54 PM
#1031
Originally Posted by Zawadi
5) Which Disney Imagineer is remembered in the Haunted mansion's graveyard?
I'm asuming you mean at WDW? There are so many especially with the new graveyard addition. I'm looking at my photos I took in October so let me see how many I get. I'm sure there are more.
Leota Toombs (Madame Leota)
Francis Xavier (no time off for good behavior)
Marc Davis (Grandpa Marc)
Yale Gracey (Master Gracey laid to rest. No mourning please, at his request)
Harriet Burns (First lady of the opera, our haunting Harriet. Searched for a tune but never could carry it)
Chuck Myall (Uncle Myall here you'll lie for quite awhile)
Dave Burkhart (Brother Dave chased a bear into a cave)
Roland "Rolly" Crump (Brother Roland here reposes, his soul's above one supposes)
Blaine Gibson (A train made a stain of absent-minded Uncle Blaine)
Ken Anderson (Drink a toast to our good friend Ken. Fill your glass and don't say when)
Paul Frees, the voice of the Ghost Host, wasn't an imagineer but he has a marker. (Your voice will carry on the breeze)
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03-01-2012, 01:01 PM
#1032
Originally Posted by Zawadi
1) How many animatronic versions of Ellen are there within "The Universe of Energy" attraction?
Is it one? I only remember her pointing a stick at a snake-like creature.
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03-01-2012, 04:13 PM
#1033
5) Which Disney Imagineer is remembered in the Haunted mansion's graveyard?
Originally Posted by badkitty
I'm asuming you mean at WDW? There are so many especially with the new graveyard addition. I'm looking at my photos I took in October so let me see how many I get. I'm sure there are more.
Leota Toombs (Madame Leota)
Francis Xavier (no time off for good behavior)
Marc Davis (Grandpa Marc)
Yale Gracey (Master Gracey laid to rest. No mourning please, at his request)
Harriet Burns (First lady of the opera, our haunting Harriet. Searched for a tune but never could carry it)
Chuck Myall (Uncle Myall here you'll lie for quite awhile)
Dave Burkhart (Brother Dave chased a bear into a cave)
Roland "Rolly" Crump (Brother Roland here reposes, his soul's above one supposes)
Blaine Gibson (A train made a stain of absent-minded Uncle Blaine)
Ken Anderson (Drink a toast to our good friend Ken. Fill your glass and don't say when)
Paul Frees, the voice of the Ghost Host, wasn't an imagineer but he has a marker. (Your voice will carry on the breeze)
not a very good question
I was only thinking about Yale Gracey who was responsible for a lot of the special effects within the mansion.
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03-01-2012, 04:15 PM
#1034
1) How many animatronic versions of Ellen are there within "The Universe of Energy" attraction?
Originally Posted by badkitty
Is it one? I only remember her pointing a stick at a snake-like creature.
Correct.
All of the other depictions of Ellen are within the various video segments.
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03-01-2012, 10:22 PM
#1035
Originally Posted by Zawadi
2) What are the ingredients of the Evil Queen's "Evil Brew" in Snow White?
"Slave in the Magic Mirror...come from the darkest space...through wind and darkness I summon thee...let me see thy face! A magic spell in the black of night, with a scream of fright! And a bolt of light! Turn my hair to white!" <-- from Fantasmic!.
[quote}3) Which BTMRR is the longest (WDW, Paris or California)? Bonus if you can provide the track lengths.[/quote]I'm gonna say Paris, because you have to travel under the river twice (once to get to the island side and once to get back to the mainland side). Not exactly sure what the track lengths are
4) To who and what did Tramp describe as a "log puller"?
Gonna guess on this one and say the beaver.
5) Which Disney Imagineer is remembered in the Haunted mansion's graveyard?
Like badkitty said, there's a whole list of 'em I assumed you were looking for Yale Gracey, though, since his "grave" has the red rose and is probably the most recognizable. But, there are many others
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03-04-2012, 06:07 AM
#1036
2) What are the ingredients of the Evil Queen's "Evil Brew" in Snow White?
Originally Posted by Main Street Jim
"Slave in the Magic Mirror...come from the darkest space...through wind and darkness I summon thee...let me see thy face! A magic spell in the black of night, with a scream of fright! And a bolt of light! Turn my hair to white!" <-- from Fantasmic!.
The lines from Snow White are slightly different. However the following are correct:
Black of Night
Scream of Fright
Thunderbolt (bolt of light)
There are 3 more ingredients
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03-04-2012, 06:12 AM
#1037
3) Which BTMRR is the longest (WDW, Paris or California)? Bonus if you can provide the track lengths.
Originally Posted by Main Street Jim
I'm gonna say Paris, because you have to travel under the river twice (once to get to the island side and once to get back to the mainland side). Not exactly sure what the track lengths are
Correct.
Paris is the longest out of the 3 mentioned. I must confess that I couldn't find the stats for Tokyo so omitted it
- Disneyland: 2671 ft (814.1 m)
- WDW: 2780 ft (847.3 m)
- Paris: 4921.25 ft (1500 m)
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03-04-2012, 06:17 AM
#1038
4) To who and what did Tramp describe as a "log puller"?
Originally Posted by Main Street Jim
Gonna guess on this one and say the beaver.
Tramp was indeed talking to the beaver. But what was Tramp describing?
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Items remaining:
- 3 ingredients for the Evil Brew
- What was Tramp desribing as a "log puller"?
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03-04-2012, 08:16 AM
#1039
Tramp was indeed talking to the beaver. But what was Tramp describing?
The muzzle!
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03-04-2012, 02:28 PM
#1040
Originally Posted by ColleenMcD
Tramp was indeed talking to the beaver. But what was Tramp describing?
The muzzle!
Correct. It was Lady's muzzle.
Just 3 missing ingredients of the evil brew left to go.
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