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    Just read online that effective May 1st, all parks will be “smoke –free” and will only have designated areas outside the park entrances. Also, no loose ice or dry ice is allowed inside the park, just ice packs can be used. They also announced a restriction on the size of strollers (no larger than 31” w x 52”l ) and specifically stated no “wagon” type strollers allowed.

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    That will cut my adult beverage consumption by a lot!! LOL Always want a cigarette after a drink (or two)...To have to leave the park to do so just makes it too much of a pain in the backside.

    I am NOT saying that I am not for this change, but once again, a few who did/do not obey the rules on smoking areas make it bad for the rest of us who do.
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    Here's the full announcement from Disney:

    Quote Originally Posted by Disney Parks & Resorts

    Walt Disney World and Disneyland make updates from time to time and are implementing some changes, including the removal of smoking areas within parks and the adjustment of park policies related to stroller size, stroller wagons and loose ice.

    Here are a few tips to help ensure a smooth arrival during your next visit.


    STROLLERS


    Families with little ones know strollers are an important part of a vacation. It’s the napping zone, the storage place, and the spot for tired legs to rest while experiencing the magic.


    Beginning May 1, we are adjusting our guidelines on stroller sizes, which will require them to be no larger than 31″ (79cm) wide and 52″ (132cm) long. The good news – many strollers on the market, including many double jogging strollers, fit within these size guidelines. Also, just a reminder that wagons are not permitted in our parks. Beginning May 1, stroller wagons will also no longer be permitted. These updates are designed to help guest flow and ease congestion, making the parks more enjoyable for everyone.


    TIP: The smaller your stroller, the easier it is to navigate and maneuver the parks. “My number one go-to is renting a stroller from Disney,” explains Disney Parks Moms Panelist Tabitha. “At Walt Disney World Resort, you can rent a single or double stroller once you arrive, and they can be rented each day or you can choose a Length of Stay Rental.” While Walt Disney World already offers a double stroller rental, Disneyland Resort will soon offer one too!


    SMOKING


    Also beginning May 1, smoking areas will no longer be present inside Walt Disney World or Disneyland theme parks, water parks, ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex or Downtown Disney in California.


    TIP: Designated smoking areas will be available outside the entrances of the areas listed above and at Disney Springs in Florida. For guests who have room or dining reservations, smoking areas are also available at Disney Resort hotels.


    LOOSE ICE

    Beginning today, if you plan to bring a cooler or cooler bag to store snacks and drinks for theme park or water park adventures, it’s important to know that loose or dry ice are no longer permitted in our parks.


    TIP: We recommend you keep your items frosty with re-useable ice packs instead. “You can visit any Quick-Service location for complimentary cups of ice for your cooler (you can also request complimentary cups of ice water to stay hydrated!),” recommends Disney Parks Moms Panelist Linda.


    For additional information about these updates, visit our FAQs at DisneyWorld.com/RulesFAQ and Disneyland.com/RulesFAQ. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by PopPhan View Post
    That will cut my adult beverage consumption by a lot!! LOL Always want a cigarette after a drink (or two)...To have to leave the park to do so just makes it too much of a pain in the backside.

    I am NOT saying that I am not for this change, but once again, a few who did/do not obey the rules on smoking areas make it bad for the rest of us who do.
    I'd be interested in knowing if that applies to vaping as well. I know most folks lump them both together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrashOverride View Post
    I'd be interested in knowing if that applies to vaping as well. I know most folks lump them both together.
    Vaping is included with smoking in ALL cases. You cannot, currently, vape outside of Designated Smoking Areas, and when this policy goes into effect, you cannot vape inside the park(s) gates at all.

    Exhaled vapors from vaping contain nicotine. and therefore falls into the same category as smoking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PopPhan View Post
    Vaping is included with smoking in ALL cases. You cannot, currently, vape outside of Designated Smoking Areas, and when this policy goes into effect, you cannot vape inside the park(s) gates at all.

    Exhaled vapors from vaping contain nicotine. and therefore falls into the same category as smoking.

    And people who do not agree with you are NOT ignorant.
    Not all vape has nic, and it hasn't even been proven if vaping with nic, in an enclosed environment, is harmful. They just jump on the ignorant train...
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    ... and I though this thread was going to be about a new INTERCOT Musical Group ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by figment! View Post
    ... And i though this thread was going to be about a new intercot musical group ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Figment! View Post
    ... and I though this thread was going to be about a new INTERCOT Musical Group ...

    Now that I read the title again, I can see that

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    I am hoping that the changes with strollers and the ban on wagon type strollers (hopefully this includes the Cinderella ones) will help things. The bigger strollers are harder for people to see over and thus they run into more people. Plus stroller parking takes up so much space in the parks

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    It does include vaping

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    SMH. That's gonna hurt their sales. That's a bit much to expect at a smaller park, like six flags. Let alone a park as big as Disney. Do they really think people are gonna waste a 1/2hr, each way, to puff a smoke. Or, god forbid, vape a hit off a far less harmful setup. I have no problems with keeping smoking out of lines, I get that. I can even see why they wouldn't want people smoking freely about the park, as it promotes a bad image and can affect other peoples experience. But outright banning it from the park is going to bury them. Looks like I'm going to universal

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    I am a non-smoker but I do empathize with how inconvenient this change must be for smokers who did stick to the designated areas. Unfortunately, those who ignored them are why we can't have nice things. That said, there's nothing worse than trying to find a short cut or less-crowded path in a park and stumbling into the smoking area on accident. I am, however, VERY happy this includes vaping and e-cigarettes! Yes people have the right to vape, and that's fine, but they don't have the right to vape in my face everywhere just because it's not a traditional cigarette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BriarRose0708 View Post
    I am a non-smoker but I do empathize with how inconvenient this change must be for smokers who did stick to the designated areas. Unfortunately, those who ignored them are why we can't have nice things. That said, there's nothing worse than trying to find a short cut or less-crowded path in a park and stumbling into the smoking area on accident. I am, however, VERY happy this includes vaping and e-cigarettes! Yes people have the right to vape, and that's fine, but they don't have the right to vape in my face everywhere just because it's not a traditional cigarette.
    I agree 1000%......while in lines. Just because vaping is safer, doesn't give you the right to cloud up someone else's personal space

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopPhan View Post
    Believe me, Nikki, I am not trying to 'stir the pot,' BUT (Yes, I'm stirring the pot! LOL) you could say the same thing about people who overindulge in adult beverages. They have the right to overindulge, but not in a place with numerous children or when it interferes with my (the 'royal' "my") enjoyment of the parks. So, in that respect, all alcohol should be banned from the parks.

    I am a combination smoker/vaper, so I see your point about vaping/e-cigarettes and agree with you whole-heartedly. Too many vapers/e-gig users think they are "above the law" when it comes to smoking areas/regulations in public places. [See CrashOverride above!]
    Oh no worries, I agree with you! It seems like Disney can better enforce this than the intoxicated guests, and unfortunately I think it would be different if they sold cigarettes in the parks. But they don't, so as long as they make money on the over-indulging adult, this will continue to be an issue as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BriarRose0708 View Post
    I think it would be different if they sold cigarettes in the parks.
    In that Walt was a smoker, there are times I really wonder why they don't. LOL I actually do believe they are still sold in the resorts....I guess that's next....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PopPhan View Post
    In that Walt was a smoker, there are times I really wonder why they don't. LOL I actually do believe they are still sold in the resorts....I guess that's next....
    He was a smoker and died of lung cancer. Probably not something they want to encourage.

    And while I can see how this will be hard for people that do smoke I, for one, am glad that I'm not going to need to walk through clouds of smoke or 'vape'.

    And my sister does smoking education. There have been no studies that say that vape is safe - it might not have the same issues as the tars from traditional cigarettes, however the things that are in them may be approved for consumption, that doesn't mean they're okay in your lungs. 'Popcorn lung' is a thing associated with vaping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewDVCowner View Post
    He was a smoker and died of lung cancer. Probably not something they want to encourage.

    And while I can see how this will be hard for people that do smoke I, for one, am glad that I'm not going to need to walk through clouds of smoke or 'vape'.

    And my sister does smoking education. There have been no studies that say that vape is safe - it might not have the same issues as the tars from traditional cigarettes, however the things that are in them may be approved for consumption, that doesn't mean they're okay in your lungs. 'Popcorn lung' is a thing associated with vaping.
    No one said vaping was safe. Ofc, anything other than oxygen is bad for you. I said "safer", by far. And I know what's in my vape, so I don't need a study to tell me that I can understand your argument about not wanting to walk through clouds of vape. Again, I agree. But as I stated above, it's all about optics. If a Disney character happens to blow a plume of colored vapor from his mouth at the time that you walked by, you may be a bit annoyed, but you wouldn't be concerned. Now, ofc there aren't any characters that do that, just using it as an example. Its all about optics. If you walked through a vape cloud, you would not only be annoyed, but you would assume some type of health risk was being imposed upon you as well. Due to the optics and misinformation, vape is included in the ban, which I FULLY understand. It just irks me when people try to make vape sound like another hazard, rather than what it was meant for. And that's as a smoking cessation tool. And for the record, there are plenty of juices without diacetyl in it or nicotine, just in case you actually believe that harvard study. Both of which I use. Not to mention the PPM required for second hand to be hazardous is on an industrial level, and certainly not something you would get by passing through a cloud or standing next to someone who is vaping. Also, for the record, there hasn't been any cases proving the correlation between the two, just that further studies are required. Why do vapers feel like they are "above the law" you ask? Because of the reasons the laws were written in the first place. And most of them were combustion and PROVEN second hand health related. And since there is no source of combustion or any proven results, it is rather unfair to blindly group vaping in with smoking. I am happy your sister does cigarette education. You may want her to look into vape as well

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    So the people who drink to excess and fall all over my kids at night at Epcot can still drink but THE PERSON WHO SMOKES IN THE CORNER AWAY FROM EVERYONE IS BEING PUNISHED. I do not smoke or drink but it doesn't seem fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDOG View Post
    So the people who drink to excess and fall all over my kids at night at Epcot can still drink but THE PERSON WHO SMOKES IN THE CORNER AWAY FROM EVERYONE IS BEING PUNISHED. I do not smoke or drink but it doesn't seem fair.
    Disney makes money on the alcohol... and allowing Epcot to becomes Drunkytown USA.... Now, don't kid yourself... If people started a SMOKING AROUND THE WORLD challenge in World Showcase, and Disney was able to profit from it, you betcha smoking would be allowed all over... But, since they don't profit from it, nope, smoking not allowed...

    I'm a non-smoker and welcome smoke free everything cause that smell is gross, and I shouldn't be subjected to it... With that said, the smoking areas weren't an issue and don't need to be removed... They are off the beaten path and the only way one would smell the smoke is to be in the area... I don't see this lasting very long...

    The strollers on the other hand... ban them all!!!! joking.... I'm all for limiting the size...
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