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    I haven't been to WDW in 6 years, and so of course a lot has changed, some for the better some for the worst (in my opinion). I think I'm a little change-resistent; I heard a couple of comments about things being stale and old and kept thinking "but if you loved it once, why would you want it to be different?". Anyhow - Wondering what "changes" others have loved and hated? Or maybe something that really NEEDS a change? Here are mine:

    Change is good!
    - Stitch is closed, I think permanently? Okay by me, I HATED that ride, LOL
    - Flights of Passage - OMG, amazing ride! Na'vi River Journey - meh
    - Happily Ever After - I did really enjoy Wishes, so I wouldn't say this is "better" - but it really is a spectacular show


    Change is bad!
    - retheming the "flights of wonder" bird show to "Up! A bird adventure" (or whatever it was called). What a gong show - don't get me wrong, I LIKE Dug and Russell, but their addition to THIS attraction is weird and pointless - that and the opening bit about being descended from the queen of Ananadapur.... All of this just detracts from the BIRDS and I feel like we saw a lot less of them. I LOVED the old show, which felt cozy and relaxed and really let you learn about the birds. Sorry for the rant - I felt really strongly about that one ;-)
    - No more Great Movie Ride? or Sorcerers hat at the entrance? Disappointed!
    - Norway Pavilion all Frozen themed - I actually DID enjoy the new ride, but WAY too much Frozen and not enough Norway. I don't do the Pavillions to see movie tie-ins (and just curious - if they are going to do that anyway, why no Mulan in China?)

    we need a change!
    - Country Bear Jamboree- What the heck is up with that show? The whole thing smells like old and the critters are looking a touch moth eaten, but we found it hysterically inappropriate for a kids show - blood on the ground? Come up and see me some time? I felt like I was in some weird Criminal Minds episode, LOL

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    Lol. My dad dragged us into the Country Bear Jamboree way too many times. Maybe that is why I'm so sick and twisted.
    I'll meet you at the Rainbow Bridge.

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    We love Country Bear Jamboree! I do not really enjoy all the projections in the MK firework show. Loved Wishes. But I guess all the fireworks are going to have projections soon. Days are numbered for Illuminations. Change it is going to happen. Do not have to like it though

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    "Blood on the Saddle" is a real song by Tex Ritter and the next few verses are worse.
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    LOL- thanks for telling me! I looked up the lyrics - at least that gives some context for mister Psycho Bear...I was a little worried about what his deal was

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinderelley View Post
    Lol. My dad dragged us into the Country Bear Jamboree way too many times. Maybe that is why I'm so sick and twisted.
    Hey, no bad mouthing CBJ. They'll turn it into Star Wars meets Frontierland or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texas211 View Post
    Hey, no bad mouthing CBJ. They'll turn it into Star Wars meets Frontierland or something.
    Blood on the Saber
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    Change is good
    1. New Toy Story Land
    2. New Star Wars Land
    3. Stitch is gone
    4. Flights of Passage
    5. Navi River Journey
    6. The dragon that was in the parade but unfortunately caught on fire

    Change that hurts
    1. Adventurer's Club (bring it back! You could set it up near the Jungle Cruise!)
    2. The characters at Liberty Tree Tavern - we LOVED Chip n Dale
    3. Stitch doesn't do the wake up call any more
    4. Wishes. It was my favorite.
    5. Fastpass +
    6. Rivers of Light - I hope to never have to sit through that again.
    I'll meet you at the Rainbow Bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mom2morgan View Post
    LOL- thanks for telling me! I looked up the lyrics - at least that gives some context for mister Psycho Bear...I was a little worried about what his deal was
    He's really in league with the Small World dolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinderelley View Post
    Change is good
    1. New Toy Story Land
    2. New Star Wars Land
    3. Stitch is gone
    4. Flights of Passage
    5. Navi River Journey
    6. The dragon that was in the parade but unfortunately caught on fire

    Change that hurts
    1. Adventurer's Club (bring it back! You could set it up near the Jungle Cruise!)
    2. The characters at Liberty Tree Tavern - we LOVED Chip n Dale
    3. Stitch doesn't do the wake up call any more
    4. Wishes. It was my favorite.
    5. Fastpass +
    6. Rivers of Light - I hope to never have to sit through that again.
    Bad change: fast pass+ should be the first 6 on your list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinderelley View Post
    Change is good
    1. New Toy Story Land
    2. New Star Wars Land
    3. Stitch is gone
    4. Flights of Passage
    5. Navi River Journey
    6. The dragon that was in the parade but unfortunately caught on fire

    Change that hurts
    1. Adventurer's Club (bring it back! You could set it up near the Jungle Cruise!)
    2. The characters at Liberty Tree Tavern - we LOVED Chip n Dale
    3. Stitch doesn't do the wake up call any more
    4. Wishes. It was my favorite.
    5. Fastpass +
    6. Rivers of Light - I hope to never have to sit through that again.
    I can agree with most of your list, but I really did like Rivers of Light as the closing show for AK. Colorful, good theme for the park and the mist screens are much better than those at Fantasmic!

    I'm kind of nonplussed about FP+...I never really used the original FastPass too much, and only book FP+ options for what I REALLY don't want to miss. I've been pretty good about my timing on visits and rarely have a queue over 30 minutes...If the queue is over 30 minutes, I'll come back later.

    I really miss Wishes as well...and SpectroMagic. Was not a big fan of MSEP when they brought it back, but loved Spectro!!!
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    Not happy with some changes but my biggest disappointment is the lack of a nighttime parade at MK. I am shocked a parade wasn’t planned after all the construction of the walkways and areas around the castle hub were completed. I was hoping the Disneyland evening parade would be brought to Florida when the Electrical Light Parade was sent to California.

    And I totally agree with the UP addition at AK. I am a former Girl Scout and leader (for over 30 years) and thought maybe the new show would be great but it was a disappointment. I love the idea of the badges the kids can earn walking around park and gathering information. But the new bird show is not a good addition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PopPhan View Post
    I can agree with most of your list, but I really did like Rivers of Light as the closing show for AK. Colorful, good theme for the park and the mist screens are much better than those at Fantasmic!

    I'm kind of nonplussed about FP+...I never really used the original FastPass too much, and only book FP+ options for what I REALLY don't want to miss. I've been pretty good about my timing on visits and rarely have a queue over 30 minutes...If the queue is over 30 minutes, I'll come back later.

    I really miss Wishes as well...and SpectroMagic. Was not a big fan of MSEP when they brought it back, but loved Spectro!!!
    I never saw SpectroMagic, but I am not a big parade fan. Most of the time, I just avoid where all the crowds are blocking the walkway and enjoy short lines for the rides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PopPhan View Post
    I can agree with most of your list, but I really did like Rivers of Light as the closing show for AK. Colorful, good theme for the park and the mist screens are much better than those at Fantasmic!
    I agree with this statement completely. We view ROL as much more of a positive than negative. Is it the best show ever at Disney World? Not even close. But it's a really nice experience we're planning to enjoy from time to time. The music, lights, color, and presentation are really nice.

    I'm also a Wishes fan, but I think I'd make my comment a little more general - I think I prefer the fireworks shows that you could see from anywhere around the park - or even outside the park. Now with the new shows, you need to be in front of the castle or Chinese Theater to see the projections that have become a focus of the new shows. If you're not close enough, you lose half the effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinderelley View Post
    I never saw SpectroMagic, but I am not a big parade fan. Most of the time, I just avoid where all the crowds are blocking the walkway and enjoy short lines for the rides.
    Good answer. You can stay in a different area of the park and just about walk on to any attraction you like while the parade/fireworks shows are going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PopPhan View Post
    Good answer. You can stay in a different area of the park and just about walk on to any attraction you like while the parade/fireworks shows are going on.
    Now I must say that I won't skip the Boo to You Parade. I always get there early to find a great spot for pictures. The grave diggers in the Haunted Mansion section are my favorite, but the whole thing is just so amazing! The music is catchy. There are characters that you never see any other time. Plus, there is CHOCOLATE!
    I'll meet you at the Rainbow Bridge.

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    Another thing I thought of

    I miss the Pirate and Princess Parties.

    As far as the RoL show, one of the great things about Disney is there is something for just about everyone. I don't mind opening up a seat for those of you who like it to get in easier. That gives me more time at something I do like that someone else may not enjoy.

    One trip I spent an afternoon photographing ever animal on the Tree of Life. I think I will probably spend the time that the show is going on to take more pictures of the animals with the colors on the tree changing.
    I'll meet you at the Rainbow Bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinderelley View Post
    As far as the RoL show, one of the great things about Disney is there is something for just about everyone. I don't mind opening up a seat for those of you who like it to get in easier. That gives me more time at something I do like that someone else may not enjoy.
    EXACTLY!! I couldn't agree more. In fact, I would say that's a good way to look at life in general, not just Disney!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altair View Post
    "Blood on the Saddle" is a real song by Tex Ritter and the next few verses are worse.
    This is why context is important, when CBJ opened most of the adults in the audience would have been born prior to the 1950's and would most likely been familiar with the song.

    Remember until the late 70's/ early 80's most people only had ABC, NBC, CBS, and PBS for TV choices.

    Now if you want to make the case that CBJ needs to be updated (or possibly needs to be closed) because it is out of date and the majority of guest no longer get the references or the jokes, then I am totally with you.
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    CBJ should stay, with its current song.

    As far as parades. I'm not big on them. I use the opportunity to catch some rides that might be less busy, else grab some food somewhere away from them.
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