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    Exclamation Pilot Program to Add New FastPass+ Benefits for Guests Booking Club Level Rooms

    Local media has confirmed a new pilot program beginning this week at the Walt Disney World resort:

    Quote Originally Posted by News 13 Orlando

    Disney World to allow some guests to buy more Fastpasses

    By Ashley Carter, Attractions Insider
    News 13 Orlando
    January 10, 2018

    Guests staying at select Walt Disney World resorts will soon have the option of buying additional Fastpasses.

    -Guests will be able to buy additional Fastpasses
    -Available to guests staying in club-level rooms
    -Option will costs $50 per person, per day

    A Disney spokesperson confirmed the information with Spectrum News 13 on Tuesday.

    The extra FastPass+ option will be available to club-level resort guests.

    The three additional Fastpasses will cost $50 per person, per day and can be used at any park. Guests will need valid theme park admission.

    A minimum three-day purchase is required for the add-on, according to Disney.

    So for one guest who wants to add the option for three days, it would cost $150.

    Club-level resort guests will be able to add the option after making their reservation. The additional Fastpasses can be booked 90 days in advance, instead of the usual 60 days for resort guests.

    With the fastpasses, guests will get preferred viewing for nighttime spectaculars.

    The add-on is available to Disney annual passholders who stay in eligible rooms.

    Disney World plans to roll out the pilot program Friday (1/12/18).

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    "With the fastpasses, guests will get preferred viewing for nighttime spectaculars."

    I wonder if this is the fastpasses you use to reserve for the shows or if this is in addition to the fastpasses.
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    $16.66 per fast pass???!!! Just think, if you buy a park pass for more than 4 days, you pay more for one ride than you pay for an extra day in the park!

    The evil genius of it all. Create a lack of supply with fast pass+ then create more supply and charge for extra for it. And people still defend this horrible system.

    Like I've said before, FP+ was the one thing Disney created that did not have guest experience in mind; it was done solely to monetize every second of every person's time in the park.

    This is just the beginning. Eggheads at Disney are three or four steps ahead with how they plan on using FP+ to separate you from your money without adding any tangible benefit.

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    Another stupid concept from management that only cares about squeezing as much money from guests as possible. This is not the way to make folks feel connected to Disney and longing to come back! In my experience, the entire FP system is currently a disaster!
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    My concern is that the next step will be to offer this to everyone staying on property, or some version of it. For example maybe the guest at the value resort will only be able to get one extra ticket. At any rate if it is expanded it will make nearly impossible for someone who is staying offsite, or decides to do a Disney trip less than 60 days out to get Fastpasses for the newest attractions. Essentially, I fear that it will become a stay at a Disney resort and pay for extra fastpasses that you can book 90 days in advance or you only get to ride attractions that are more than 20 years old.
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    I personally (with the way this program is at this moment) am not bothered by this. It is available to a very limited number of guests at a significant price point for folks (for a party of 4 with a 3 night stay - $600 at the very least) who are already paying a premium for their room. What's more, there is no double dipping on attractions. With all these parameters, I am not anticipating this to influence the day of the average park-goer at all.

    By the way, are there even 6 attractions per park that warrant the need of a FP?

    This is just my two cents.

    If this is foreshadowing of things to come, well that is a different conversation for a different day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cer View Post
    I personally (with the way this program is at this moment) am not bothered by this. It is available to a very limited number of guests at a significant price point for folks (for a party of 4 with a 3 night stay - $600 at the very least) who are already paying a premium for their room. What's more, there is no double dipping on attractions. With all these parameters, I am not anticipating this to influence the day of the average park-goer at all.

    By the way, are there even 6 attractions per park that warrant the need of a FP?

    This is just my two cents.

    If this is foreshadowing of things to come, well that is a different conversation for a different day.
    You might have missed the part where the extra FP can be used at any park, which means my take on it would be that a family with the park hopper could book a FP for Pandora, then book one for Star Wars and then one for Soarin. I saw this on another site yesterday and that was my take away.

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    I saw this on another site yesterday. I figured with my family of 5, which normally stays at moderate level resort, to upgrade to Deluxe CL, add the FP+ add on and add on the park hopper, it would be about a $750 per day! increase to our vacation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hitchhiking Ghost View Post
    You might have missed the part where the extra FP can be used at any park, which means my take on it would be that a family with the park hopper could book a FP for Pandora, then book one for Star Wars and then one for Soarin. I saw this on another site yesterday and that was my take away.
    I did see that after the fact, but still, if that is how the club level guests want to spend their money and time... I guess it's ok. I just don't see a large number of guests who will be able (club level only) or willing (spending $50/person/day plus hoppers) to do this and for that reason, I'm ok with it. 4 parks, one World is a bear to do and I just don't think there will be many taking advantage. In fact, they would be better off to do two parks only per day if they want to park hop - that would be the better plan. 3 FP+ in the am, nap, hop and do 3FP+ in the pm. And if these club level guests are AP holders that would reduce the need for park hoppers... If I had all the monies, that is how I'd do it, but I'm not going to, because in my world - this whole thing is ridiculous.

    I still think this is too small of a group willing to do this to upset my vacation.

    From a business standpoint - it's brilliant. Charging for something that costs them nothing. NOTHING!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy1998 View Post
    My concern is that the next step will be to offer this to everyone staying on property, or some version of it. For example maybe the guest at the value resort will only be able to get one extra ticket. At any rate if it is expanded it will make nearly impossible for someone who is staying offsite, or decides to do a Disney trip less than 60 days out to get Fastpasses for the newest attractions. Essentially, I fear that it will become a stay at a Disney resort and pay for extra fastpasses that you can book 90 days in advance or you only get to ride attractions that are more than 20 years old.
    That's pretty much the case now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cer View Post

    If this is foreshadowing of things to come, well that is a different conversation for a different day.
    It is a foreshadowing.

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    I still want to know how many people told Disney, " if only you could make a system that forces me to plan every detail two months in advance, eliminate spontaneity, lock me out of the best attractions AND cost more, I would love that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RunDMV View Post
    I still want to know how many people told Disney, " if only you could make a system that forces me to plan every detail two months in advance, eliminate spontaneity, lock me out of the best attractions AND cost more, I would love that."
    Apparently me, because I'm considering it. I am not a fan of the idea, but booking our fastpasses at the 90 day mark gives me a better chance at getting my daughter what she wants and reserved seating for nighttime shows with a 2 year old would make life easier (less time spent standing in line).
    Not to mention the money I save in food. When your kids are all over 6 feet tall, you spend a pretty penny in food at the parks. If we go back to the resort and let them eat, the increased cost in the room is still cheaper than if I paid for food at the park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinderelley View Post
    Apparently me, because I'm considering it. I am not a fan of the idea, but booking our fastpasses at the 90 day mark gives me a better chance at getting my daughter what she wants and reserved seating for nighttime shows with a 2 year old would make life easier (less time spent standing in line).
    Not to mention the money I save in food. When your kids are all over 6 feet tall, you spend a pretty penny in food at the parks. If we go back to the resort and let them eat, the increased cost in the room is still cheaper than if I paid for food at the park.
    That didn't make sense. The horrible system they have now could have been set up so that you can only get a FP on the day of your park visit. (And it could still be set up like that.) You could still use the app and the kiosk but only on the day.

    AP holders and day visitors would actually have a chance.

    But, if they did this, the main objective would be the guest experience not maximizing profits at the expense of the guest experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinderelley View Post
    Apparently me, because I'm considering it. I am not a fan of the idea, but booking our fastpasses at the 90 day mark gives me a better chance at getting my daughter what she wants and reserved seating for nighttime shows with a 2 year old would make life easier (less time spent standing in line).
    Not to mention the money I save in food. When your kids are all over 6 feet tall, you spend a pretty penny in food at the parks. If we go back to the resort and let them eat, the increased cost in the room is still cheaper than if I paid for food at the park.
    But, you can only book the 3 FP+ options that you paid for in advance at the 90 day mark. The 'normal' "free" FP+ options are still only available to book at the 60 day mark.

    I just don't see a minimum of $150 to book 9 FP+ options (Minimum purchase - 3 days!) as a big draw for anyone, Club Level or not. I don't stay Club Level (way to rich for my blood) but I don't see this as something that will affect me in any real manner.

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    Finally got to this stage. This has been a long time coming and many were in denial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RunDMV View Post
    But, if they did this, the main objective would be the guest experience not maximizing profits at the expense of the guest experience.
    I agree. There are many things that would be different about this if it were about the guests. This is, and has been, all about making things easier for Disney and fooling guests that it is for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekneek View Post
    Finally got to this stage. This has been a long time coming and many were in denial.
    Yep, and I do not think this is the end. I think if this is a success for Disney at the club level, they will start rolling some form of it out to guest at the rest of their resorts. I eventually see a day when the level of resort determines how many extra fastpasses you can purchase. This is assuming that Disney just doesn't go to a system that is more like what Six Flags does, where you have to buy an pass that lets you skip the lines.
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