What would WD DO???

**WDW1985** · 03-26-2007, 03:21 AM

My wife and I were talking about Walt Disney the other day and asked the question, "What do you think Walt Disney would change about the WDW theme parks if he were alive today?" I thought it was an interesting question to throw out for discussion. If one thing is true, it's that WDW still has the magic he was looking for and always seems to be on the cutting edge, but I know there are many who feel there many things he might change or never change.

What are your thoughts?

**alpro2** · 03-26-2007, 06:06 AM

He would take out that carnival section in AK. I just don't get it.

**DISNEYFIX** · 03-26-2007, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by alpro2

He would take out that carnival section in AK. I just don't get it.

Amen really that's a relyy weird looking deal. Then he would put Lilo And Stitch

"ride"

in the swamp.

**Marilyn Michetti** · 03-26-2007, 12:23 PM

Who knows? One thing that would have been different for sure would have been EPCOT. Walts last dream was for a real world city that would address environment and progress. He was about done with parks and had already stated that he wouldn't be involved much in the movie industry. EPCOT, as he invisioned it, was his BIG dream. Although I think he would be AMAZED at what's happened in his name, I believe he would have forged on with his city.

One thing, I don't think he would have EVER let those planning video's - (the last two) - reach the mailboxes. UGH!

**caryrae** · 03-26-2007, 12:28 PM

Maybe he would get MGM Disney Studios back to a working studio. These days it seems to just be another theme park.

I don't think he would have let the new Four Season golf coummunity area thats gonna be built ever happen. Also he wouldn't like resorts like POP have a new phase just sitting there with no progress being made this long.

**Marker** · 03-26-2007, 01:03 PM

Seems some folks believe that what Mr. Disney would have done, just happens to be the exact thing they want.

Also, I'd bet that what Mr. Disney would do now, as opposed to what he did then would be ENTIRELY different. Different business climates, different liability laws, different sensitivities. It's a different world for visionaries. What he would WANT to do, and what he was able to do would be entirely different things, as I'm sure it was back then too, but I'm guessing there are many more obstacles now.

And, for me anyway, to even speculate what Mr. Disney would envision, would be like a 5 year old t-ball player trying to hit a major league fastball. Mr. Disney's ability to see beyond the norm, and to innovate exceed anything I could ever dare to dream up.

**ravsluvdisney** · 03-26-2007, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Marilyn Michetti

Who knows? One thing that would have been different for sure would have been EPCOT. Walts last dream was for a real world city that would address environment and progress. He was about done with parks and had already stated that he wouldn't be involved much in the movie industry. EPCOT, as he invisioned it, was his BIG dream. Although I think he would be AMAZED at what's happened in his name, I believe he would have forged on with his city.

One thing, I don't think he would have EVER let those planning video's - (the last two) - reach the mailboxes. UGH!

My thoughts exactly. Whether it would be different or not, Walt was really pushing his EPCOT vision late in his life. Present day EPCOT has evolved into a great park, but I wonder what it would be if Walt stayed with us awhile longer to influence it design, philosophy, etc.

**DNS** · 03-26-2007, 02:06 PM

I have no idea if WD would have approved of that icky carnival at AK, but I'm with others here who HATE it.
One thing I have thought of is that if he came back today he would simply have to be very proud overall of what has been done in his name. The movies, the theme parks all over the world. How could anyone not be impressed. Disney is a mega entertainment industry for all ages. He would probably flinch at some things, but overall, I think he would be very proud.

**WDW1985** · 03-26-2007, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Marker

Also, I'd bet that what Mr. Disney would do now, as opposed to what he did then would be ENTIRELY different. Different business climates, different liability laws, different sensitivities. It's a different world for visionaries. What he would WANT to do, and what he was able to do would be entirely different things, as I'm sure it was back then too, but I'm guessing there are many more obstacles now.

It IS a much different world for visionaries to dream in, but there are still ways to think big when you have the Disney checkbook in your hands. He was willing to risk and we're all glad he did.

I think that Mr Disney would probably be really amazed at how much the parks have grown. He would absolutley love the Animal Kingdom and the other innovations within the other parks as well. Hopefully he would take down the magic wand on SE (sorry folks I'm an Epcot purist) and have a huge 25th celebration. He might rethink the Downtown Disney/Pleasure Island concept a bit. I just don't think he would like the club atmosphere so close to the parks. I also hope he would bring Horizons back just because he never got to see it! Overall he would most likely continue to think three steps ahead of everyone else and that usually means more building!

mttafire · 03-26-2007, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by WDW1985

It IS a much different world for visionaries to dream in, but there are still ways to think big when you have the Disney checkbook in your hands. He was willing to risk and we're all glad he did.

I think that Mr Disney would probably be really amazed at how much the parks have grown. He would absolutley love the Animal Kingdom and the other innovations within the other parks as well. Hopefully he would take down the magic wand on SE (sorry folks I'm an Epcot purist) and have a huge 25th celebration. He might rethink the Downtown Disney/Pleasure Island concept a bit. I just don't think he would like the club atmosphere so close to the parks. I also hope he would bring Horizons back just because he never got to see it! Overall he would most likely continue to think three steps ahead of everyone else and that usually means more building!

I agree 100%!!!

**bradk** · 03-26-2007, 04:45 PM

there's a good reason why MGM isn't really a working studio.. it's CENTRAL FLORIDA.. didn't work out for Nickelodeon or Universal any better either. it's hard enough for New York City to thrive in that arena, although technically Universal does broadcast iVillage out of there now. whee.

as for the boardwalk games in dinoland, well, we can argue that they also exist along the boardwalk of paradise pier in DCA. in DAK, they're part of a roadside attraction. in DCA, they're just part of some boardwalk (most notably coney island of yesteryear). not that walt was responsible for either of course. there's often an argument that he didn't care for the boardwalk type environments and that they were too seedy and dirty, which is why he wanted disneyland in the first place. of course, this never hindered his love of carousels and i believe disneyland even had a circus tent for a while and i even want to say it had a ferris wheel (which he reportedly detested most of all) for a bit.. and i mean while he was alive, not the one in DCA.. at least i want to think that.

**WDW1985** · 03-26-2007, 04:47 PM

"I see the original question as a non-issue. NO one knows what he would do. Doe to
the fact that he is no longer with us.. Instaed of wondering what would "he"do,
I like to do what he DID do and that is..Look to the future and dream. I think honestly
though he would be quite happy!"mttafire

Well it really wasn't an issue, but a question about what he would think of the parks. Are people thinking big or dreaming big enough? Walt Disney had his vision, but others have used their vision to complement/compete with what he did up to his death. I was just wondering what he would think of what they did being that some of it, namely Epcot, was different than what he initially imagined and some he may have never imagined.

**bradk** · 03-26-2007, 04:57 PM

to be honest, i think he was a bit off his rocker. especially when it came to epcot. of course you have to be crazy to come up with some of the things he did. but his epcot was NEVER going to happen. i dunno if reality justifies what they ended up doing, but.. it's done.

on a more fundamental note. if you compare fantasylands between disneyland and magic kingdom or look at new orleans square, it'd be hard to imagine he'd be impressed at anything in WDW. there's magic in the streets of disneyland that just haven't been replicated in orlando.

**WDW1985** · 03-26-2007, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by bradk

to be honest, i think he was a bit off his rocker. especially when it came to epcot. of course you have to be crazy to come up with some of the things he did. but his epcot was NEVER going to happen. i dunno if reality justifies what they ended up doing, but.. it's done.

on a more fundamental note. if you compare fantasylands between disneyland and magic kingdom or look at new orleans square, it'd be hard to imagine he'd be impressed at anything in WDW. there's magic in the streets of disneyland that just haven't been replicated in orlando.

Hmmmmm please explain.

**bradk** · 03-26-2007, 06:15 PM

which part? that walt was crazy? or that disneyland's fantasyland and new orleans square cover details that orlando doesn't come close with?

i'll tell you about fantasyland. pinocchio's building is italian. peter pan's is british. snow white's is german. it's a small world is one giant beautiful facade.

fantasyland in MK is like a strip mall.

**LoriMistress** · 03-26-2007, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by bradk

to be honest, i think he was a bit off his rocker. especially when it came to epcot. of course you have to be crazy to come up with some of the things he did. but his epcot was NEVER going to happen. i dunno if reality justifies what they ended up doing, but.. it's done.

on a more fundamental note. if you compare fantasylands between disneyland and magic kingdom or look at new orleans square, it'd be hard to imagine he'd be impressed at anything in WDW. there's magic in the streets of disneyland that just haven't been replicated in orlando.

I completely agree with you. You may live.

**thejens** · 03-26-2007, 08:23 PM

He would tear down the swan and dolphin. He'd love Animal Kingdom. He'd make Inovations inovative. Who knows, his vision for Epcot may seem outlandish, but color cartoons, television, and Disneyland all seemed crazy once too!

**Mickey's Pal** · 03-27-2007, 09:54 AM

This may sound "nit picky", but... If Walt was the type of man who was bothered by seeing a cowboy walking through Tomorrowland and decided to devise a way to keep that from happening (tunnels), then I can't help but believe that he would have wanted the Tower of Terror to face inwards (towards the park) so that when those elevator doors open, you didn't have a view of the top of the RnR building/parking lot. It really spoils the effect for me.

Okay- I said it. Don't hang me up and beat me senselessly, please.

**Rick Blaine** · 03-27-2007, 08:29 PM

I think he would be torn. On one hand he was a fantastic business man. That part of him would love WDW. The parks are run very efficiently and make lots of money. On the other hand all the thrill rides and increasing lack of shows and dark rides I don’t think would please him. The imagineer in him loved things like COP. Of course he had nothing against some thrill rides, but the current emphasis on them at the expense, I believe, of other types of entertaining rides would not please him.

**dolphinmickey9170** · 03-27-2007, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by caryrae

Maybe he would get MGM Disney Studios back to a working studio. These days it seems to just be another theme park.

I have to agree. I loved the tour we took years ago through the "Working Studio" watching animators do their thing. And I'm sorry.....but the stunt car show......

I hated it. Get rid of it and bring back the back lot tour as it was in the old days!!