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cer
12-16-2016, 12:15 PM
Y'all I just read from disneyfoodblog insta account that they are going to be serving alcohol in 4 more Magic Kingdom restaurants.

Cinderella's Table
Tonys
Liberty Tree Tavern
Skipper Canteen

I know it's worked out seemingly fine at Be Our Guest, but I guess I am a traditionalist and I just am not a fan of this new trend. Sorta disappointed.

What do y'all think?

Speedy1998
12-16-2016, 12:15 PM
From what I read Tony's Town Square, Liberty Tree Tavern, Skipper Canteen and Cinderella's Royal table will all start serving alcohol starting December 19.

Speedy1998
12-16-2016, 12:18 PM
you beat me by seconds

cer
12-16-2016, 12:19 PM
you beat me by seconds

Sorry!

But what do you think, Speedy?

Speedy1998
12-16-2016, 12:45 PM
Not sure. I would hate for MK to have people who have obviously had a few to many walking around. However, serving it in Be our guest does not seem to have created that problem. So I guess as long as they don't suddenly have drunks staggering around MK I am ok with it.

cer
12-16-2016, 01:13 PM
Not sure. I would hate for MK to have people who have obviously had a few to many walking around. However, serving it in Be our guest does not seem to have created that problem. So I guess as long as they don't suddenly have drunks staggering around MK I am ok with it.

If what I saw on instagram is any indicator, there are a lot of people who are happy about this. It seems odd to me that they are so excited. Since no one is going to be walking up to a kiosk and carrying their drinks with them, I (like you) guess it won't look any different in the park itself.

On a side note. We live in the Austin area and are getting ready for the coooold weather tomorrow night and Sunday. Is it supposed to dip all the way down to Houston? Stay warm! :freeze::snowball::winter::camp:

Reedy Creek Buccaneer
12-16-2016, 01:23 PM
I am not shocked. Once you let one do it, they were all going to join in. The only way to get rid of it is to let some drunk drown at MK.

SBETigg
12-16-2016, 01:33 PM
I don't like it. I suspected, as we all did, that the Be Our Guest inclusion of alcohol would open it up to this eventually. I don't mind it being confined to restaurants and with limited selection-- but, if this is a money maker (and it will be), I could see them expanding and that would be a shame. It's easy enough to leave the MK for a drink, and drinking in the MK is just not something I need to do. I liked having the one place that remained fantasy clean and pure. As long as it stays in restaurants, though, a drink with dinner, it's not a bother to me. It's the expansion that I fear.

SBETigg
12-16-2016, 01:38 PM
People who are serious drinkers would be drinking anyway, sneaking it in or leaving the park to drink and return. Drinks served with dinner are not going to put many people in a state of total inebriation. I'm sure the servers will be careful about that (she says hopefully). But I do think it could grow beyond this, and that is what I don't like. I like having the MK stay unique and fairy tale sweet. So while I don't mind a select few restaurants serving limited alcohol, I don't like the idea of expanding that to counter service or kiosks or bar areas and I hope this is it.

ibelieveindisneymagic
12-16-2016, 04:10 PM
I have no issues with this at all. I mean, you need a good glass of wine if you're eating at Tony's! :)

Seriously, I know we've all seen the chaos at during F&W at Epcot, and this isn't the same, this is a way to make money, and improve guest satisfaction with people who are caught off guard that you can't have a beer or glass of wine with a meal.

I know my DH enjoys the different drinks you can get around Disney, it is part of the trip for him, and if there is something interesting added to a drink menu at MK, he'd be one of the people appreciating it.

Daisy'sMom
12-16-2016, 06:17 PM
I don't like it. But then again, I've been so disappointed in the direction Disney has been taking in the past few years.

TheVBs
12-17-2016, 11:19 AM
Not too surprised by this. And, I guess we're fine with it. We certainly appreciate the option of a beer or wine if it compliments what you're eating. But, I have to say that there's certainly a disconnect element about it. We were never put off that you couldn't get a drink in MK. It was OK that there was a park where alcohol just wasn't available. Like others have said, as long as it only stays an option with meals, I don't think it will impact the park experience. I hope they don't expand to kiosks or bars. But then, we may be the only people posting on Intercot who have never seen a bunch of drunks at Epcot. I remember one college-age kid who was a little loud and wobbly on one trip. Other than that I don't think I've actually ever seen someone drunk, even at F&WF.

Figment!
12-17-2016, 12:01 PM
Here are excerpts from the Orlando Sentinel Article with more details:


Four more Magic Kingdom restaurants to serve wine, beer

by Lauren Delgado | Orlando Sentinel Foodie
Orlando Sentinel
December 16, 2016

Four more restaurants at Walt Disney World’s Magic Kingdom will begin serving wine and beer Dec. 23.

Tony’s Town Square Restaurant, Liberty Tree Tavern, Jungle Navigation Co. Ltd. Skipper Canteen and Cinderella’s Royal Table will serve the beverages daily during lunch and dinner. They will join Be Our Guest Restaurant, which in 2012 became the first Magic Kingdom eatery to serve alcohol.

The change comes after numerous requests from guests, according to a Disney spokeswoman.

Beer and wine will only be sold within the table-service restaurants. There will be no to-go options or standalone bar.

...

Magic Kingdom guests won’t just find a simple new drink menu. Brian Koziol, a master sommelier and the concept development director for Disney Parks Food & Beverage, has outlined some drink and food pairings.

The beverages offered fit with each restaurant’s theme and cuisine.

Here’s a look at a few of them:



Tony’s Town Square Restaurant, an Italian restaurant in the park’s Main Street area, will offer Italian wines and beers, including a Chianti Superiore designated to pair with the grilled pork chop with mushroom-bean pancetta ragu and marsala reduction.
Liberty Tree Tavern will serve beer, cider and domestic wines to go with its American cuisine. Koziol paired a New England lager with the Patriot’s Platter of roast turkey, roast pork and prime rib.
Jungle Navigation Co. Ltd. Skipper Canteen in Adventureland will have a more global beverage menu, with drinks such as a riesling to pair with Trader Sam’s head-on shrimp.
Cinderella’s Royal Table, which host many special occasions at its spot in the center of the park, will serve champagne and sparkling wine.

brad192
12-17-2016, 04:55 PM
I predicted exactly this back when the fur was flying over BOG serving alcohol. No surprise to me. BOG was their trial balloon for this, it worked out well, so now on to "Stage 2" - expansion of the concept. If the expansion works well, and I bet it will, I predict you'll see a "bar" type establishment open within 3-5 years, probably on Main Street or in Frontierland.

Can't wait to see if my new prediction comes true as well...

Speedy1998
12-19-2016, 12:22 PM
On a side note. We live in the Austin area and are getting ready for the coooold weather tomorrow night and Sunday. Is it supposed to dip all the way down to Houston? Stay warm! :freeze::snowball::winter::camp:

:freeze:It dropped 44 degrees in less than 8 hours at my house. How did you make out in Austin?

ANG
12-19-2016, 12:59 PM
People who are serious drinkers would be drinking anyway, sneaking it in or leaving the park to drink and return. Drinks served with dinner are not going to put many people in a state of total inebriation. I'm sure the servers will be careful about that (she says hopefully). But I do think it could grow beyond this, and that is what I don't like. I like having the MK stay unique and fairy tale sweet. So while I don't mind a select few restaurants serving limited alcohol, I don't like the idea of expanding that to counter service or kiosks or bar areas and I hope this is it.

This is my mind set. I'm not a big drinker but it would be nice to add a single drink to my dinner. It's the pop up stands that worry me. Though so many people complain about Epcot but I personally have only ever seen one drunk person there.

MNNHFLTX
12-19-2016, 05:25 PM
I thought it was okay for MK to be the one park that didn't serve alcohol. That said, I think it will be okay for them serve it in limited quantities there too. Out of all the changes that have taken place in recent years, this is one that least bothers me.

Terra
12-19-2016, 08:05 PM
I'm totally fine with it. I have friends from all across the world. America is a bit backwards with various views anyway, one being alcohol. It's a daily/per meal thing where many of my friends are from. It's nothing for them to have wine or ale with each meal. So they were actually surprised on first visits that MK was dry for quite awhile, and then only in certain spots.
I think it's good for us to realize there is a bigger world out there.

Altair
12-19-2016, 09:57 PM
"To alcohol, the cause of and solution to, all of life's problems." - Homer Simpson

disney4life
12-20-2016, 02:23 AM
Personally, I don't see a problem with it as long as it stays within the restaurants and doesn't spread to carts/counter service places. I've never had the desire for a drink while at a disney park so I have little opinion either way. I highly doubt there will be any sort of problem with drunks as 1) It'll be too expensive to get drunk and 2) I haven't encountered a drunk person in all the years of them serving alcohol in other parks.

All that being said. It amazes me how excited people get about being able to have a drink. Sure, I enjoy a drink every now and then, but for some people they like have to have one whenever they are out anywhere.

cer
12-20-2016, 03:59 PM
:freeze:It dropped 44 degrees in less than 8 hours at my house. How did you make out in Austin?

Pretty much the same. Of course much better today now that the wind has stopped blowing... and that it is warmer. :)

cer
12-20-2016, 04:01 PM
"To alcohol, the cause of and solution to, all of life's problems." - Homer Simpson

A Homer Simpson quote - nice!!! ;)

villavic
12-22-2016, 03:37 PM
I do like to drink a (ONE) glass of wine at lunch when traveling, so I'll enjoy it at Disney parks, specially if they offer very good wines. If they serve it within restaurants, that's ok whenever it is controlled (if necessary). Drinking outdoors... I wouldn't like it. It's a family place, not the French Quarter.

Now, being sincere, I find it ok whenever it's one glass of wine, or a beer. Not other liquours but if they sell one kind, to be fair they should sell every kind.

Is there a risk of bad behavior? I hope not, again if we talk about just restaurants, no becoming bars. Has there been any problem in Disneyland Paris?

texas211
12-25-2016, 07:56 AM
I predicted exactly this back when the fur was flying over BOG serving alcohol. No surprise to me. BOG was their trial balloon for this, it worked out well, so now on to "Stage 2" - expansion of the concept. If the expansion works well, and I bet it will, I predict you'll see a "bar" type establishment open within 3-5 years, probably on Main Street or in Frontierland.

Can't wait to see if my new prediction comes true as well...

I can only hope. Would love a bar. Except, probably would be too packed. There are plenty of times I'd love a drink (surviving fantasyland).

Though I can only imagine the cost of some good scotch or bourbon. I love hitting up Scotland at the FW festival. Or the Lemon Vodka drinks from France. Would love them at MK.

I just don't think the availability will be as widespread as the FW, so I don't think you'll see too many really drunk folks. Some buzzed certainly, but personally they don't act any worse than so many folks already do sober.

It'll be like FP+. Some really love it, some really hate it, many, have no strong opinion one way or the other.

PopPhan
12-27-2016, 02:33 PM
I know times have changed and Walt has been gone for 50 years, but MK was always intended to be a "Kid Friendly" park. There is no need for alcohol INSIDE the park. What does it take to go to one of the MK resorts if you REALLY NEED (or want) alcohol?

On the other hand, and this may sound hypocritical, I see nothing wrong with one or two drinks with a meal INSIDE the restaurant. It would be possible to post that there is a two drink maximum and have the CM servers be able to deny service beyond that.

Gator
12-28-2016, 02:52 PM
I hate this.

For me it's personal. Alcohol has killed two of my friends, one of my friend's dads, and cost me a business partner (cost him his family). I could go on but I think the point is made. I just don't like to see something that destroys being peddled at a place that's supposed to be Magical. I guess I just don't see the need. My opinion, of course.

If WDW is so magical, why would someone need booze to make it magical for them? Is it not magical without it? I don't think Walt would be pleased with this. It's becoming a carnival/fair atmosphere that he wanted to avoid at all costs. Epcot already has to deal with "incidents" due to alcohol. Let's keep MK free of the same.

tiggerbuddy
01-03-2017, 08:50 PM
More rides...Less Booze !!

Giggy
01-17-2017, 07:57 PM
Not overly keen, I rarely drink alcohol, not even with meals so I feel no need to drink alcohol in a theme park. I'm having enough fun without it and I think it would just slow me down. ;)

I guess if it's sensible amounts of alcohol in restaurant settings and it's managed sensibly then that's fine. World Showcase it does make sense as it's a way of showcasing the different cultures of the world and I like that idea - no problems with that at all. Maybe I've been lucky (or just oblivious to my surroundings) but I don't remember seeing any major alcohol related issues in the park. If it were poorly managed in MK this would be my worry but I hope that Disney would take action to put a stop to any that developed.

Cinderelley
01-17-2017, 08:30 PM
Ok. Wasn't Pleasure Island closed down, because it wasn't family friendly enough? Now they are taking the family friendliest park and bringing in alcohol. What is wrong with these people?

I, for one, have seen the "incidents" (as it was politely put) at Epcot with people who have drank too much. I was thankful that my kids weren't there.

I have made many adult trips where alcohol was involved, but it doesn't need to be in Magic Kingdom. That is a place where childhood is magical. It doesn't need to be contaminated with adult things.

Polynesian Dweller
01-17-2017, 10:50 PM
Ok. Wasn't Pleasure Island closed down, because it wasn't family friendly enough? Now they are taking the family friendliest park and bringing in alcohol. What is wrong with these people?

I, for one, have seen the "incidents" (as it was politely put) at Epcot with people who have drank too much. I was thankful that my kids weren't there.

I have made many adult trips where alcohol was involved, but it doesn't need to be in Magic Kingdom. That is a place where childhood is magical. It doesn't need to be contaminated with adult things.

Not bringing in now, it was brought in with BOG 4 years ago and of course it was Walt who created Club 33 in Disneyland which opened May 1967 5 months after his death. Really nothing new here and limit it to restaurants it's not a big deal.

texas211
02-11-2017, 02:45 PM
I see it no different than the ballgame or a variety of other venues with kids. Like everything else there, i'm sure it'll be like 15-20 bucks or more for a drink, so I'm not too worried about an avalanche of drunkards. Sure a few, but, I think it'll be okay. Biggest thing I bet would be more heat related issues/dehydration.

minnie-mouse
02-22-2017, 12:28 PM
I am not pleased with the idea of selling alcohol in MK either. The only good thing is if they keep it in the restaurants and not at kiosks. That would mean the younger crowd won't be just drinking and walking around, they would have to pay for a meal at one of the restaurants too. I think that will crack down on a bunch of drunk people staggering thru the park.

Dulcee
02-24-2017, 08:21 AM
I'm glad for this change personally. I like a glass of wine with dinner, especially on vacation!

texas211
02-25-2017, 03:44 PM
I'm glad for this change personally. I like a glass of wine with dinner, especially on vacation!

I know I wouldn't mind a few while I'm waiting for Fantasmic :)

Zippy 1
03-12-2017, 03:27 AM
We were there for Food and Wine in November. We went on at least 4 nights. We encountered drunk people on more than once. The one Friday night security was escorting 2 individuals out of the park. I was actually surprised at the amount of alcohol being passed around. Seemed like a lot of locals were there. We did not enjoy it at all and will not be returning in the evening any time soon during Food & Wine

RavsRuleDisney!
03-12-2017, 05:07 PM
You will have a few fools who will over-indulge and cause some isolated incidents but I don't see MK becoming a Daytona spring break kind of atmosphere....

MNNHFLTX
03-13-2017, 05:49 PM
The Food and Wine Festival is a whole other situation--there are a lot of locals there for sure, they market to adults to indulge after they get off work. I agree that it is crazy crowded and chaotic sometimes and not really appropriate for kids. That said, I don't think this change in policy at MK will be the same at all. MK is a family-oriented park and not likely to promote a atmosphere that focuses on drinking, even if beer and wine is being served in their restaurants.

RBrooksC
04-10-2017, 10:56 AM
Yes, it is tradition to not server alcohol in the MK. However, unlike other parks, you cannot get an adult beverage outside the restaurants. There are many people who enjoy to have an adult beverage when having dinner. While I enjoy it, I usually don't due to the large added expense. When this was enacted, it seems it was a much more innocent time but it was also the time of "Mad Men" where there were three martini lunches and the cocktail hour so maybe not so much.

But when people are having an adult beverage with dinner, usually it isn't a time to get drunk or anything like that. It isn't like Epcot's drinking around the world. Just relax and don't worry. If you aren't going to drink, it should affect you.

Wayne
04-10-2017, 03:56 PM
Not bringing in now, it was brought in with BOG 4 years ago and of course it was Walt who created Club 33 in Disneyland which opened May 1967 5 months after his death. Really nothing new here and limit it to restaurants it's not a big deal.

Not thrilled about this, but not overly concerned either. Just wanted to point out that Club 33 is a private, members only club at Disneyland and it is still the only place in Disneyland that you can get an adult beverage.

EeyoresBestFriend
04-10-2017, 08:30 PM
Not impressed. I don't think that Walt would have been happy with this direction . Epcot is definitely not what it used to be in the evenings and I can see this going down that road. Oh well, I will stop going when it gets too much like Vegas.

GeorgeOfTheJungle
04-11-2017, 09:06 AM
I'm torn. I loved that MK was a dry park. I loved the history of that, and how it kept MK classy. I love alcohol but I still didn't really believe it belonged in MK. Still, I like that they are keeping it to sit-down restaurants. I just hope they don't branch out to QS...

GeorgeOfTheJungle
04-11-2017, 09:10 AM
I just wonder... What will stop people from booking one of these restaurants only to order alcohol? Will they deny service if you don't also purchase a meal? Hmm.

PopPhan
04-11-2017, 10:57 AM
I just wonder... What will stop people from booking one of these restaurants only to order alcohol? Will they deny service if you don't also purchase a meal? Hmm.

Actually, they might. These are Table Service restaurants, not bars. There could be regulations that state that no alcohol will be served without meal purchase and it would be well within their rights to do so.

How is it currently being handled for Be Our Guest?