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special ed teacher
03-24-2015, 09:16 PM
Today at Magic kingdom it took about an hour to make a fastpass selection for a 4 th Fp and the choices were slim. It actually would have been better to wait in the ride line. Not complaining. I just thought I would mention it.

joanna71985
03-24-2015, 09:48 PM
Yeah, one reason why I am not a fan of the new FP system (I preferred the old way)

manutd1
03-25-2015, 12:02 AM
Wouldn't make ANY sense to wait in that line...The parks are busy now....and yes, You could ride just about every ride there except the mine ride with less than an hour wait. Depending on time of day. I have found that the Kiosk by Splash Mountain rarely has a long line.....at least when I'm there.

ibelieveindisneymagic
03-25-2015, 08:20 AM
This is the one thing I find really frustrating about FP+. The line for the "extra" FP's is usually longer than the lines for the rides themselves.

Why not just say 3 a day, and put us all out of the misery of hoping for more?

AgentC
03-25-2015, 10:55 AM
This is the one thing I find really frustrating about FP+. The line for the "extra" FP's is usually longer than the lines for the rides themselves.

Why not just say 3 a day, and put us all out of the misery of hoping for more?

Or at least open it up on the app. I' don't understand why it has to be on the kiosk. And I think the way they have it set up on the kiosk makes it take longer.

LudwigVonDrake
03-25-2015, 10:59 AM
They need to allow guests to access their 4th FP+ on the app. Waiting in line to make a FP+ is not constructive and it takes you away from doing something FUN :mad:

Maddie
03-25-2015, 11:55 AM
There weren't even any attractions left that were worth an hour wait! You could of just gone and waited about 45 minutes for a ride instead but you just never know what is left before. The new system is frustrating, I just get my 3 a day and ride the other rides in between.

Speedy1998
03-25-2015, 12:30 PM
Why not just say 3 a day, and put us all out of the misery of hoping for more?

Because so many people complained about only being able to get 3.

mydisneygirls
03-25-2015, 12:54 PM
Wouldn't make ANY sense to wait in that line...The parks are busy now....and yes, You could ride just about every ride there except the mine ride with less than an hour wait. Depending on time of day. I have found that the Kiosk by Splash Mountain rarely has a long line.....at least when I'm there.

It is vacation week somewhere? I sometimes just check wait times out of curiosity and I noticed wait times are longer than I would have expected. Splash Mountain has been extremely long.

I agree with others. You should be able to grab a fastpass on the app.

CPT Trips
03-26-2015, 06:13 PM
Fast Pass+ is new to us. If we want to get a 4th, are we restricted to the same park where the first 3 were?

joonyer
03-26-2015, 08:13 PM
Fast Pass+ is new to us. If we want to get a 4th, are we restricted to the same park where the first 3 were?


No, you can get one for an attraction in a different park, BUT you have to "hop" to the other park first, and then go to a kiosk in that park before you can get the 4th and subsequent FP.

Needless to say, the new FP+ system leaves a lot to be desired!

manutd1
03-26-2015, 08:43 PM
I think the new system is a profound success. :thumbsup:
There is nothing better than making your picks 60 days out...then get more while there after those. With strategy and understanding the system....it is easy to accrue more than the first 3..or 4 or even 5.
Now, NO I would not wait an hour to get a fast pass....thats nuts. BUT, Many times if you see a CM with an iPad. They too can make the 4th and so on. Also, I have found...the FP kiosk by S.M. isn't busy at all most ofd the time. Fantasy land....yeah, its busy. This will was up in time...same for the long lines for the mine ride. But, I love FP+ Works perfectly for us. But, I highly suggest folks understand it..get educated..then use it to its fullest.:mickey:
An in the end..a 30 minute wait or less...of course just do the stand by line. No FP needed. But, folks will wait 30 minutes to get a FP.....that just doesn't add up. Thats simply the guests fault...bad time management.

RunDMV
03-26-2015, 09:17 PM
I think the new system is a profound success. :thumbsup:
There is nothing better than making your picks 60 days out...then get more while there after those. With strategy and understanding the system....it is easy to accrue more than the first 3..or 4 or even 5.
Now, NO I would not wait an hour to get a fast pass....thats nuts. BUT, Many times if you see a CM with an iPad. They too can make the 4th and so on. Also, I have found...the FP kiosk by S.M. isn't busy at all most ofd the time. Fantasy land....yeah, its busy. This will was up in time...same for the long lines for the mine ride. But, I love FP+ Works perfectly for us. But, I highly suggest folks understand it..get educated..then use it to its fullest.:mickey:
An in the end..a 30 minute wait or less...of course just do the stand by line. No FP needed. But, folks will wait 30 minutes to get a FP.....that just doesn't add up. Thats simply the guests fault...bad time management.
Getting a fast pass for an attraction that didnt require a fast pass before is not a success. Planning 60 days out when plans change is not a success. Choosing between rides because choosing one ride blocks the other one is not a success. Waiting in line for an hour for the privilege of waiting in line again is not a success.

manutd1
03-26-2015, 09:29 PM
Getting a fast pass for an attraction that didnt require a fast pass before is not a success. Planning 60 days out when plans change is not a success. Choosing between rides because choosing one ride blocks the other one is not a success. Waiting in line for an hour for the privilege of waiting in line again is not a success.
Don't wait inline for an hour for a FP. That is 100% unnecessary. And, why isn't being able to book a FP 60 days out not a success? And, IF plans change..you CAN change your FP. People adjust those all the time. It is profoundly easy. I have not seen any attraction that didn't need a FP that now does, exist. H.M. POTC even NOW.. which, is spring break...the wait times are constantly under 30 -40 minutes. No FP needed for that. I just don't understand the "waiting in line for an hour" to wait again...comment. That just doesn't have to happen. When we were there recently, and wanted a FP..there was a long line in Fantasyland. But, next to no line at the kiosk in Frontierland. And, Main Street was a great place to get more. Obviously we all have our opinions...but I am finding out that a lot of folks that simply don't like FP+....just doesn't know how to use it or understand it.:shake:
Once you make your original three....there is so many ways to change and adjust the times..that getting a 4,5 and 6th FP is quite easy....and not for attractions that don't need them. Im talking Splash, Space....BTMRR...times open up all the time. Thats the beauty of the app....and in time...I think one will be able to use that to "book" more F.P's
But, I have never nor seen any need to get FP for any attractions that didn't need them prior. Some people do like to get FP for attractions that they really aren't needed.., and thats ok..... Again, The rides that were almost walk ons....still are. Some just have different opinions of how long of a wait= a walk on. To me its anything under 30 min. Thats perfectly acceptable. Especially, if folks remember the 80's-90's no short waits back then....
All in all...life is great, life is short.....Disney couldn't be better!

joonyer
03-27-2015, 04:14 PM
Here's an example of how the FP+ system was frustrating for us on our last trip.

a) Before you make any FP reservations, you can check using the system to see what times/attractions are available in each park. Then choose what you want. No problem there, that's a good thing.

b) Say you then make FP reservations for one park, say MK and you are lucky enough to get times fro really popular attractions, say 7DMT, Space and BTMRR, for instance.

c) But then, you decide you may want to change your plans and perhaps visit a different park, that what you first planned for a particular day. Unfortunately you cannot even check to see what FPs may be available at a different park, without losing the FPs you already have. Once you have a highly desirable FP for a ride like 7DMT, this system really discourages you from thinking about changing your plans, because once you lose the FPs you have, you very well may not be able to get them back if you decide not to change parks after all.

d) As a result, we felt locked into plans we had to make 60 days in advance, at least until our first 3 FPs were used. I really didn't like this loss of flexibility in our Disney touring style that we used to enjoy. Did we still have a good time? Yes. Could the FP+ system be improved? Definitely.

RunDMV
03-27-2015, 07:07 PM
Don't wait inline for an hour for a FP. That is 100% unnecessary. And, why isn't being able to book a FP 60 days out not a success? And, IF plans change..you CAN change your FP. People adjust those all the time. It is profoundly easy. I have not seen any attraction that didn't need a FP that now does, exist. H.M. POTC even NOW.. which, is spring break...the wait times are constantly under 30 -40 minutes. No FP needed for that. I just don't understand the "waiting in line for an hour" to wait again...comment. That just doesn't have to happen. When we were there recently, and wanted a FP..there was a long line in Fantasyland. But, next to no line at the kiosk in Frontierland. And, Main Street was a great place to get more. Obviously we all have our opinions...but I am finding out that a lot of folks that simply don't like FP+....just doesn't know how to use it or understand it.:shake:
Once you make your original three....there is so many ways to change and adjust the times..that getting a 4,5 and 6th FP is quite easy....and not for attractions that don't need them. Im talking Splash, Space....BTMRR...times open up all the time. Thats the beauty of the app....and in time...I think one will be able to use that to "book" more F.P's
But, I have never nor seen any need to get FP for any attractions that didn't need them prior. Some people do like to get FP for attractions that they really aren't needed.., and thats ok..... Again, The rides that were almost walk ons....still are. Some just have different opinions of how long of a wait= a walk on. To me its anything under 30 min. Thats perfectly acceptable. Especially, if folks remember the 80's-90's no short waits back then....
All in all...life is great, life is short.....Disney couldn't be better!

....I .......never read...... internet posts... that... are written.... in this... fashion. even if what.... you wrote made perfect sense.... it was lost... on me....

CPT Trips
03-27-2015, 07:25 PM
Get your fat pass 60 days out? Heck we decided to go to WDW three weeks out.
Under the old fast pass arrangement we would not know which park we were visiting on that day until the day before.
On that basis alone, the new system is a profound loser. It does help people who book enough in advance, stay on site and are pathological planners.

manutd1
03-27-2015, 08:27 PM
....I .......never read...... internet posts... that... are written.... in this... fashion. even if what.... you wrote made perfect sense.... it was lost... on me....
we must bow to the post police...... ....... .......

Speedy1998
03-30-2015, 12:33 PM
I think FP+ is a success for the simple reason that I no longer have to run to stand in line for a FP at the most popular attraction at the park. Now I can stroll in at my leisure, and enjoy the parks until it is time for my first FP.

Cinderelley
03-30-2015, 04:50 PM
I just don't understand the "waiting in line for an hour" to wait again...comment. That just doesn't have to happen. When we were there recently, and wanted a FP..there was a long line in Fantasyland. But, next to no line at the kiosk in Frontierland. And, Main Street was a great place to get more. Obviously we all have our opinions...but I am finding out that a lot of folks that simply don't like FP+....just doesn't know how to use it or understand it.:shake:


Wow. So people are suppposed to run around from place to place to find a short line? What about those who can't walk that far easily? What about those with small children? What about people who are in a large group? It seems to me that your view is narrowed down to people who are able to move about pretty quickly with ease.

I have been there when I was disabled enough to have a handicapped placard in my vehicle. I've been there with a group of 15 people before ranging in age from 3 years old to in their 70s. I can tell you that in neither of those cases would I jump from one area of the park to another just to find a shorter line to make fastpass reservations nor would waiting an hour in line to make the reservations be acceptable.

Do I understand how to use it? yes. Do I like it? No. I never ran from land to land to get fast passes before. I'm not running from land to land to find a short line for a fastpass +. I'm there to be on vacation, not stress out.

Cinderelley
03-30-2015, 04:54 PM
No, you can get one for an attraction in a different park, BUT you have to "hop" to the other park first, and then go to a kiosk in that park before you can get the 4th and subsequent FP.

Needless to say, the new FP+ system leaves a lot to be desired!

I don't mind that so much, since you would have had to go to the other park to get the fp under the old system anyway.

To me, it makes more sense to have people be in the park that they want the fastpass for. That makes it more of a guarantee that they will be there to use it.

MargaretMessler
03-30-2015, 05:50 PM
I never had an issue with the old program, but as they say, things change. I'll learn to deal with it and make it work for me. I just wish they would add the 4th FP functionality to the app.

If I use my original 3 at, say, MK, then want to go to EPCOT - I can check what's available, make a FP, then hop the monorail and away I go.

manutd1
03-30-2015, 06:19 PM
I think FP+ is a success for the simple reason that I no longer have to run to stand in line for a FP at the most popular attraction at the park. Now I can stroll in at my leisure, and enjoy the parks until it is time for my first FP.
Yep.....:thumbsup:

Kenny1113
03-31-2015, 12:57 PM
Getting a fast pass for an attraction that didnt require a fast pass before is not a success. Planning 60 days out when plans change is not a success. Choosing between rides because choosing one ride blocks the other one is not a success. Waiting in line for an hour for the privilege of waiting in line again is not a success.

Need a "Like"button for this. :)

Daisy'sMom
03-31-2015, 04:10 PM
Fast Pass + has basically ruined our day trips to Disney. We just spent the last two weekends going to Universal instead. Went to Disney last month and spent the whole time waiting to ride. There were lines where there never was any before. It's impossible to get FastPasses or dinner reservations anywhere.
The one good thing is, we met two other couples at Universal that had the same problem. We ended up having a nice table service meal with them and all agreed to NOT renew our APs next time. We all had such a good time, we are meeting again next month at Universal.

manutd1
04-01-2015, 05:07 PM
Fast Pass + has basically ruined our day trips to Disney. We just spent the last two weekends going to Universal instead. Went to Disney last month and spent the whole time waiting to ride. There were lines where there never was any before. It's impossible to get FastPasses or dinner reservations anywhere.
The one good thing is, we met two other couples at Universal that had the same problem. We ended up having a nice table service meal with them and all agreed to NOT renew our APs next time. We all had such a good time, we are meeting again next month at Universal.
Well, good thing about this is one less person at WDW to make the lines longer.....:laughing:
FP+ has made ours even better....:thumbsup:
Odd, thing is. My best friend just got back last week. And this is during a busy time.. He had no issue getting additional FP's and not for rides like POTC or HM. They didn't need it, only 20-30 min wait tops. He got for his family of 4 Space, Splash, BTMRR all after his 3rd FP needed later than 4pm. He just kept checking and one for each popped up. And, never waited in long FP kiosk line. He either used a CM or the kiosk at Splash, which never seems to have a longer than 10 min wait.
For any one person to boycott WDW....another will go. I don't know, I just don't get the issues...im thinking its lack of knowing how to "use it" with the best efficiency....
I will say one thing i like about Universal, Is the "express pass" deal. We do that at any theme park that offers it.