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chefmickey3
08-09-2013, 07:18 PM
Just had to post that when they ask you not to take flash pictures on attractions like the haunted mansion and pirates, it is for a reason. The bright flash in the dark ride hurts! I can't believe people still try to take pictures! Members of their own parties should hit them hard.

We were on pirates two weeks ago and this woman was taking flash pictures. After the first few, I politely said "no flash pictures please!" Needless to say, she continued. It completely ruined my experience. At the exit, I said (still politely) that there are no flash pictures on this attraction. She then proceeded to argue with me! I asked her to ask a CM and walk away. I could hear her asking a CM and the response that there are no flash pictures allowed.

I can't believe it still makes my blood boil!

MargaretMessler
08-09-2013, 07:27 PM
Aside from the fact that those are the rules, and they are for a reason, I don't understand why people bother, they usually come out bad anyways

ibelieveindisneymagic
08-09-2013, 10:05 PM
Oh I hate this! It drives crazy when people are taking pictures, totally destroys the magic.

One time, on the Haunted Mansion, there was a couple that was taking tons of pictures in the queue, in the stretching room, so we made sure there was a lot of people between us and them.

Needless to say, I could see them taking pictures throughout the ride, but we were far enough behind that it didn't bother us.

I've been known to "mention" it to people when it is totally ruining my ride experience. :blush:

Melanie
08-09-2013, 10:16 PM
This seems to have gotten pretty bad, on Pirates, Spaceship Earth, Nemo, etc. And I'm not talking one pic, I mean they take a pic in every scene. Like was previously mentioned, the pics don't come out anyway. It drives me whacko, but I think iPad photography has become more aggravating for me. Ugh.

Arielfan98
08-09-2013, 10:17 PM
I would complain to a CM and ask for a front of the line pass and if not definitely try the ride again since the lines go fast for PotC

TikiLounger
08-09-2013, 10:21 PM
The same thing happened to my daughter and I on Pirates. The people who shared our boat took flash pics non-stop. Not only did it ruin the dark ride experience, but the stress of being so angry with them put even more of a damper on things. They obviously only thought of themselves. They couldn't have cared less about us!

MrPeetrie
08-09-2013, 11:18 PM
Last year, you'd swear we were in the seat behind someone from Life Magazine or something the way he was snapping off pictures. And it wasn't one shot at a time. It was...

Ga-zheh, ga-zheh, ga-zheh, ga-zheh. [PAUSE]
Ga-zheh, ga-zheh, ga-zheh, ga-zheh. [PAUSE]
Ga-zheh, ga-zheh, etc.

Multiple flashes. And for EVERY SCENE!!!!! I'll bet he snapped off a hundred pictures. It was a professional camera.

stephicakes
08-10-2013, 08:14 AM
Yes - and it drives me NUTS!!! :mad:

We were on SE in July and the folks in the car in front of us took flash pictures NON-STOP. I mean MULTIPLE pictures in EVERY SCENE! I even called out, "No flash pictures please!" Well they continued so DH and I could only assume that they did not speak English or something... but still... it completely ruined the experience for us and it's one of my favorite rides. When we got off I went up to them and told them that there was no flash photography allowed with hand signals so that they understood. But how do you NOT know that it is just rude to do that..?

Can't wait to go on SE again for a "re-do" !!

chefmickey3
08-10-2013, 10:41 AM
Thanks for the support - I was feeling bad about being so mad! You know the worst part was the woman did speak English - just self-centered and rude. Horrible!

texas211
08-10-2013, 11:04 AM
This seems to have gotten pretty bad, on Pirates, Spaceship Earth, Nemo, etc. And I'm not talking one pic, I mean they take a pic in every scene. Like was previously mentioned, the pics don't come out anyway. It drives me whacko, but I think iPad photography has become more aggravating for me. Ugh.

Amen. I hate IPADs/tablet photography. But, the planet is like 99% idiots and must flash photo and talk through every ride.

Melanie
08-10-2013, 11:41 AM
Amen. I hate IPADs/tablet photography. But, the planet is like 99% idiots and must flash photo and talk through every ride.

Next will be those taking pics on the rides with their iPads. Wait for it.

hoop de do
08-10-2013, 12:55 PM
I think we should make them ride Small World 300 times and take at least 100 pictures each time. Who's with me?
:D :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Terra
08-10-2013, 01:58 PM
Last year, you'd swear we were in the seat behind someone from Life Magazine or something the way he was snapping off pictures. And it wasn't one shot at a time. It was...

Ga-zheh, ga-zheh, ga-zheh, ga-zheh. [PAUSE]
Ga-zheh, ga-zheh, ga-zheh, ga-zheh. [PAUSE]
Ga-zheh, ga-zheh, etc.

Multiple flashes. And for EVERY SCENE!!!!! I'll bet he snapped off a hundred pictures. It was a professional camera.

This made me chuckle! But I do understand.
My best friend did it once. She didn't hear the direction I guess and before I knew it she snapped and they came over the PA and said "No flash photography please." I admit, I laughed!!!

ON another note, I have a SPD/ASD son and he does great in dark rides, but when there are sudden multiple flashes like that from too close it freaks him out.

And I agree, they don't turn out. And it doesn't capture that magic you feel in the moment. You'd be better off videoing the ride without the light.

Terra
08-10-2013, 01:58 PM
Next will be those taking pics on the rides with their iPads. Wait for it.

Oh I've already seen that!!!

2MuchWDFun
08-10-2013, 03:16 PM
My biggest flash photography gripe at WDW is in the Little Mermaid Show at DHS. I love this attraction.
I have been known to yell out--"NO FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY" when people start taking pictures--especially during the Under the Sea scene with the puppets. When the flash goes off everyone can now see the puppeteers on stage manipulating the puppets. I'm sure it is also dangerous for the puppeteers on stage.

It is one of my favorite shows and I hate when it is ruined by thoughtless people. On top of that the pics these inconsiderate people are taking won't even look good!!

Melanie
08-10-2013, 03:30 PM
My biggest flash photography gripe at WDW is in the Little Mermaid Show at DHS. I love this attraction.
I have been known to yell out--"NO FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY" when people start taking pictures--especially during the Under the Sea scene with the puppets. When the flash goes off everyone can now see the puppeteers on stage manipulating the puppets. I'm sure it is also dangerous for the puppeteers on stage.

It is one of my favorite shows and I hate when it is ruined by thoughtless people. On top of that the pics these inconsiderate people are taking won't even look good!!

Strange, but that's the one show where the are very strict on flash photography. I've seen Cast Members pop up during the show and reprimand the offenders, and they are SERIOUS. It can really mess up the live performers.

Along these lines, I also get extremely aggravated by those folks filming in a show. Who wants to see 15 phone screens (and now iPad screens) in front of them while trying to enjoy The American Adventure or Hall of Presidents? I'm just floored by people being so completely inconsiderate sometimes, and then getting defensive when you say something about it.

pdrlkr
08-10-2013, 03:54 PM
This happened to us several times! If you let a CM know they will let you ride again! :thumbsup:

JerseyDad
08-10-2013, 04:47 PM
.....happens all the time on rides like Pirate of the Caribbean or the Maelstrom.

....and I have no problem (much to the dismay of my wife) in letting the people with the cameras know that I don't appreciate it ....."Excuse me ....can you pop that flash a few hundred more times ....I'm not quite totally blinded yet".

....although my comment seems a bit crass and forward (rather than letting a CM know) .....it 'breaks the ice' with others on the ride that are also not pleased and gets them to speak up also.

....the whole "strength in numbers" thing goes a long way.

....I'm waiting ...anxiously ...for one of those photo snapping yahoo's to drop their I pad / phone / camera into "the drink" on POTC ...so that I can give them a vigorous round of applause.:clappy::clappy::clappy:

Mrs Bus Driver
08-10-2013, 10:22 PM
I think we should make them ride Small World 300 times and take at least 100 pictures each time. Who's with me?
:D :thumbsup::thumbsup:

"Its a small world after all" :thedolls:

I always seem to run into the shutterbugs on HM. Usually in the room with Madam Leota. One time a guy got me right between the eyes with the red light from his camcorder. So annoying:angry:

PopPhan
08-11-2013, 10:50 AM
I goofed up one time in Pirates and had a camera that, even with the flash off, had a light sensor that would flash repeatedly for the autoexposure feature of the camera. Once I realized that it was me causing the problem, I shut the camera off!!! It was too late to apologize to the other riders, but I felt about 2 inches tall!!

DonaldDuckUSA
08-13-2013, 03:00 PM
This seems to have gotten pretty bad, on Pirates, Spaceship Earth, Nemo, etc. .

I've noticed this too. It used to not be so bad. It kills me too.

When my parents used to take me to WDW and the dark rides would stop for a moment (as they do), my parents once told me it was because "someone didn't follow directions."

They would say someone must have stood up, misbehaved, or snapped a flash photo. It was their way of making sure I never did those those things. HAHAHA. I forgot all about that. No kid wants to be held responsible for stopping a Disney ride!!!

Maybe instead of "No flash, please" we should start telling them "YOU'LL STOP THE RIDE IF YOU MISBEHAVE, YOUNG LADY!"

Fangorn
08-13-2013, 04:21 PM
I'm sure it is also dangerous for the puppeteers on stage.



As the father of one of those perfomers, I can personally attest to the fact that the performers have been injured because of flash photography temporarily blinding them.

Steve

azcavalier
08-14-2013, 09:53 AM
I think that while it is partly self-centered guests, I think that it's also partly based on the ignorance of those guests.

I think that a lot of those people, even the one with "professional" cameras, don't even know how to turn the flash off. *Every* camera has a way to turn the flash off. It just takes going through some menu options on some cameras.

But, the real reason that it drives me nuts is because it ruins the experience for me AND their pictures will be awful. The built-in flash on ANY camera is only good for round 8-10 feet. The reason for this is because anything past that and the light won't illuminate the scene while the shutter on the camera is open. You might think, "Yeah, but when my flash goes off, you can see that it brightens stuff really far away!" And you'd be right. But by that time, your shutter on you camera is closed. So it illuminated the close-up stuff, but not the far stuff. So it's worthless taking pictures of deeper scenes, parade floats, in stadiums (that always makes me laugh), etc. And if the shutter does stay open that long, it's going to be blurry. You cannot take a clear picture with a shutter open more than 1/50th of a second (or so), flash or no. The darker the scene, the longer the shutter wants to stay open, even with a flash.

So, that's what I think when that happens. Thanks for not just blowing the ambiance of the ride, but you're doing it for no good reason. I'm glad your pictures will ****.

c&d
08-14-2013, 10:06 AM
I've asked people not to take flash pictures I just don't understand why they can't follow the rules. It really does ruin the ride, particularly for those on it for the first time to keep seeing the flash. It's as bad as those who videotape them, the warm glow of the LCD screen the entire ride.

I know I will never talk about a ride in the line because if it's someone's first time I don't want to spoil it for them.

PopPhan
08-14-2013, 11:53 AM
I think that a lot of those people, even the one with "professional" cameras, don't even know how to turn the flash off. *Every* camera has a way to turn the flash off. It just takes going through some menu options on some cameras.

What really bothered me about my camera was that it was easy to turn the flash off, but impossible to turn off the auto-exposure light. It was a Kodak camera and I actually called them and asked how to disable the light....Their answer -- You can't! The camera needs it to figure out the focus and aperture settings. Even on "Manual" settings....Needless to say, that camera no longer exists in my possession!!

For parades and any shots with motion, I just use the Sports setting or High-Iso on manual. I don't think I have turned on the flash on my latest camera (Nikon 'Point-and-Shoot variety) since Day One!!

mcjaco
08-14-2013, 12:48 PM
I think this last trip (got back yesterday), was one of the first in a long time, where I did not run into this problem very often. I was actually shocked.

Bass T-bone
08-16-2013, 01:52 PM
Not only that, but flash is effective only up to a certain distance.

Like azcavalier said, what's really happening is that the shutter is staying open longer...
Beyond the flash range, the light emitted does nothing.
It's like taking pictures of fireworks... you think that the flash is actually enhancing the picture?

:photo:

JMTStone
08-16-2013, 02:29 PM
When my parents used to take me to WDW and the dark rides would stop for a moment (as they do), my parents once told me it was because "someone didn't follow directions."

We've got to be related. My Mom would have done the same thing.

My husband will say "please turn off your flash" and you can tell people understand him... they just don't care. I don't confront people. I get too mad when they will not follow the rules. And it ruins my experience.

My newest pet peeve is the same as Mel (and Christine too I think). In fact, I tweeted about it while I was there less than a month ago. I was sitting in the second row at Festival of the Lion King while a woman in front of me is using her iPad. So I see the show twice but it somehow blocks 1/2 of my view. I had it during Wishes. At Flight of Wonder; I hoped a bird would poop on one. I hate it. I hope this fad goes away quick.

azcavalier
08-16-2013, 02:37 PM
My newest pet peeve is the same as Mel (and Christine too I think). In fact, I tweeted about it while I was there less than a month ago. I was sitting in the second row at Festival of the Lion King while a woman in front of me is using her iPad. So I see the show twice but it somehow blocks 1/2 of my view. I had it during Wishes. At Flight of Wonder; I hoped a bird would poop on one. I hate it. I hope this fad goes away quick.

I love my iPad. But not for videos or pictures. Are those people serious? The last thing I want to do is hold that thing up to video anything. Whenever I see someone using their iPad to film something, I just shake my head.

JMTStone
08-16-2013, 04:15 PM
Twitter feed of @JMTMStone and you'll find the photo

https://twitter.com/JMTMStone/status/360220400078159872/photo/1

Zawadi
08-16-2013, 04:45 PM
My biggest flash photography gripe at WDW is in the Little Mermaid Show at DHS. I love this attraction.
I have been known to yell out--"NO FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY" when people start taking pictures--especially during the Under the Sea scene with the puppets. When the flash goes off everyone can now see the puppeteers on stage manipulating the puppets. I'm sure it is also dangerous for the puppeteers on stage.

It is one of my favorite shows and I hate when it is ruined by thoughtless people. On top of that the pics these inconsiderate people are taking won't even look good!!

We were watching Animagique at Disneyland Paris (similar black light puppeteering) and a flash gun went off. A CM went over and insisted that the camera was switched off.

GoBlueLacheta
08-16-2013, 09:19 PM
Maybe it is just "un-luck" of the draw, but this happens to us at least every other time we are on Pirates.

Yo-Ho Yo-Ho turn off your cam-era please.

Opus X
08-16-2013, 11:55 PM
To me....this is one of those..."only the sick goto hospitals" So, All the folks that notice flashes...post here.
Honestly, We have never really noticed this phenomenon. Im trying to forget i even read about it...it makes me want to notice it happening.
But, honestly, I never really noticed or if i did...it wasnt something that gave me issues.:confused:
Of course....now ill sit right behind..some took using a tablet or something.
Murphys law.

PAYROLL PRINCESS
08-17-2013, 01:31 AM
My Nikon Cool pix camera had the feature where you can shut it off. I thought I had turned it off but oops, I flashed. Needless to say, I stopped trying to take a picture.The camera I have now is a Canon and you have to actually LIFT the flash up. It actually takes pretty good pictures in the dark without the flash.That was one of the main reasons I wanted this camera. I was even talking to a friend, who is going to Disney the same week as me, about that feature because she was saying that her fiance wanted a new camera. It was a great selling point for her because they too go to Disney frequently.

hauntedmansiongirl
08-17-2013, 01:30 PM
Twitter feed of @JMTMStone and you'll find the photo

https://twitter.com/JMTMStone/status/360220400078159872/photo/1

That would have driven me nuts! If you're going to do that, ask to sit in the very last row where you're affecting the least amount of people!

JMTStone
08-17-2013, 07:06 PM
Yo-Ho Yo-Ho turn off your cam-era please.

Excellent

Maggie T
08-17-2013, 07:27 PM
A few years back on POC some young people in our boat behind us did a video and took flash pictures. Well for the video they have me burping many times along with some choice words I kept repeating, not bad stuff but loud. I was in the video more than the pirates. For the stills my arms were pointing a lot and I was moving a lot in my seat. You have to understand I asked them if they understood no flash pictures and the young man told me to mind my business. Then his lady friend call me a jerk so I had fun with them. I am 6'1 weigh 250 lbs. and have lifted weights for 40+ years. When the ride was over they became scared when I asked them if they had any more comments. Just then an older lady came up to me and said I was really funny and thanked me for messing with those idiots. I would not have done anything to them but I hope they show some respect to the next riders.

azcavalier
08-18-2013, 12:13 PM
To me....this is one of those..."only the sick goto hospitals" So, All the folks that notice flashes...post here.
Honestly, We have never really noticed this phenomenon. Im trying to forget i even read about it...it makes me want to notice it happening.
But, honestly, I never really noticed or if i did...it wasnt something that gave me issues.:confused:
Of course....now ill sit right behind..some took using a tablet or something.
Murphys law.

Admittedly, I have probably only had two experiences where it really bothered me. And it has to be a really dark ride (Haunted Mansion, for example) to bug me. Last trip, though, there was someone who took close to 50 photos about four cars behind us, flashing for each one. It doesn't bother me as much on Pirates, because much of the scenes are well lit, and so the flash doesn't do as much. But it destroys the ambiance in HM.

angua85
08-18-2013, 06:54 PM
This used to bother me. And then one day I realized, my commenting was not going to change the legions of people who do it. And *really* the only way it was spoiling my ride was that I kept thinking (in my bossy voice) "you aren't supposed to!"

So now I ignore it. And it really (in the grand scheme of things) doesn't matter.

JerseyDad
08-18-2013, 07:04 PM
That would have driven me nuts! If you're going to do that, ask to sit in the very last row where you're affecting the least amount of people!

...okay ...if I saw that ...I'd tell the person, "Okay...I feel for you ...I too am sorry you bought an Apple product ...but ..it's sorta' blocking my view ...but if you put it down ...we can sit later on ...have a drink ..and you can tell me how sorry you are for blocking my view ...and I'll console you for buying that 'thing'. ;)

texas211
08-18-2013, 07:53 PM
A few years back on POC some young people in our boat behind us did a video and took flash pictures. Well for the video they have me burping many times along with some choice words I kept repeating, not bad stuff but loud. I was in the video more than the pirates. For the stills my arms were pointing a lot and I was moving a lot in my seat. You have to understand I asked them if they understood no flash pictures and the young man told me to mind my business. Then his lady friend call me a jerk so I had fun with them. I am 6'1 weigh 250 lbs. and have lifted weights for 40+ years. When the ride was over they became scared when I asked them if they had any more comments. Just then an older lady came up to me and said I was really funny and thanked me for messing with those idiots. I would not have done anything to them but I hope they show some respect to the next riders.

Exactly. Their bravery is as limited as their knowledge of the rules.

Maggie T
08-18-2013, 07:56 PM
Really do agree that the flashes don't bother to much but when people make remarks about why you are sitting in front of them and ask if we could move to the outer sides ( my wife one side and me on the other side) so they can get clear pictures, that is pushing it to far. Been to WDW over 20 times and they were the worst all time. They had a tripod set up on his lap and the CM said nothing. Some people would scoot over but I was not.

1DisneyNut
08-18-2013, 10:54 PM
The flashes seriously irritate me to the point I have to fight with myself to keep from grabbing the camera/phone out of their hand and throwing it.

We had this happen a couple of times our last trip. The first ride it happened on I just fumed and didn't say or do anything. Over the next hour or so I had an epiphany and devised what I considered a brilliant plan. The next ride it happened on a few hours later, which was Pirates one of my favorite rides; someone was just clicking away and I said loudly "NO FLASHES." They continued anyway so I fired up my flashlight app on my smartphone, set it to strobe light and pointed it back at them (they were behind us) for about 15-20 seconds. It was more than long enough to get my point across. Guess what, no more camera the rest of the ride. lol

I am going to use the strobe every time I encounter a picture taker on a ride from now on and I am prepared to just leave it on the entire length of the ride if necessary. I figure that if enough of us start doing this, it will force WDW into taking some sort of action.