MNSSHP - Just got off phone with Disney

[JoDisney]

Disney agent said they had a meeting today about MNSSHP and were told that guests with party tickets cannot be left into the MK park until 7pm. She said the employees were told not to leave the guests in the park before 7 pm under any circumstances. She says that they have to really abide by this rule. She said that Disney was very adamant about this from today on. She, too, saw what is being said on the boards and said as of today that is NOT going to happen. It will be interesting to see what happens.

[BigRedDad]

If they enforce this as well as any other policy they have, there is no need to leave when the party starts.

It is ridiculous that they do not have better plans for exiting guests prior to hard ticket events. The MK should close to non-ticket holders an hour before. This gives the CMs, Security, and Management another hour to herd them out. I think CMs should have hand-held ticket scanners. When they ask a non-party ticket holder to leave, they scan and flag their ticket. If they get caught cheating a second time, another single day entrance is used on the ticket, the ticket is flagged not to be able to add additional days because they are cheating the paid party goers. After the second cheat, they are then handed of to the sheriff's paddywagon on a trespassers warrant. I know this will never happen. I think they should just make the after parties available for party goers only. If you have an ADR that exceeds the park close, you are not seated and asked to leave the park.

[CaptainSad]

All right.. Let's have someone verify this at the next Party. Anybody going to the parties from now on please report if this is true or not... Who were the Managers the first few nights. Why weren't they told not to let them in until 7. I can't see them making a blunder like this. This would be a zoo if this happens. I just can't see this being orderly at all. There is going to be all kinds of trouble... I would tell people not to be in my way when 7 comes around. Paying $53 for five hours, I'm going to make the most of it..

[Daisy'sMom]

If you purchase a ticket for an event, it's for that event.
If I buy a ticket to the evening movie, should I be let in for the matinee?
If someone is in the park during the event and does not hold a ticket for that event, they should be led out of the park by security. If someone tried to enter the park prior to the event with an event ticket, they should be removed also.
I don't see why everyone thinks this is an injustice.:mickey:

[MickeysBestPal]

Disney agent said they had a meeting today about MNSSHP and were told that guests with party tickets cannot be left into the MK park until 7pm...

Ignore anything you are told by a phone agent regarding park operations.

Guests are being admitted with their Party Tickets at 4PM, as has been the case for many years.

This is for guest safety and Disney Transportation reasons.

[Madame Leona]

If you purchase a ticket for an event, it's for that event.
If I buy a ticket to the evening movie, should I be let in for the matinee?
If someone is in the park during the event and does not hold a ticket for that event, they should be led out of the park by security. If someone tried to enter the park prior to the event with an event ticket, they should be removed also.
I don't see why everyone thinks this is an injustice.:mickey:

I agree somewhat with the movie analogy. However, when you purchase a ticket, you get in to find a seat and see the previews. I don't want to get in for the entire day. I just want to be able to get my kids a quick bite to eat and not miss any of the "movie." Plus, I could see that line getting nasty when people are waiting large amounts of time after 7pm. Is 4 too early, possibly but I think 7 is too late.

[Scrappy2]

Ok... I'm a bit slow. If I have an AP and spend the whole day at MK and have tickets for the event as well. I do not have to leave the park and re-enter? I just take my ticket to for the event to guest relations? We are doing the Christmas Holiday Party so I'm sure the same issues will arise.

Thanks for the info!

[spoiledraf]

Just bought my ticket 2 hours ago for tommorrow nights party. They will be giving out wristbands outside the gates at 4. If you are already in the park you can get them at Stitches. She didn't say anything about having to wait until 7 to get in.
And really, how many people get tickets for the party only?? I'd guess less than 10 %. The vast majority are on hoppers and staying at the parks. Some people want to make a mountain out of a mole hill. You can't trick or treat or get access to the characters or ride the rides without the band, thus the reason for it. Can they see the parade and the fireworks? Yes but what's the big deal. I'm surely not going to sweat it. :drama:

[badkitty]

If you purchase a ticket for an event, it's for that event.
If I buy a ticket to the evening movie, should I be let in for the matinee?
If someone is in the park during the event and does not hold a ticket for that event, they should be led out of the park by security. If someone tried to enter the park prior to the event with an event ticket, they should be removed also.
I don't see why everyone thinks this is an injustice.:mickey:

With the number of tickets that are sold for the parties, it would take a long time to get everyone waiting at the gates in. Not to mention the mess of folks trying to leave. If I'm paying for 7-12, I want the five hours I've paid for. I'm not asking for the matinee, I just want to see the whole movie.

[BigRedDad]

I think the OP may be slightly confused. I read this that the person on the phone said they were going to take stronger measures to get people without a ticket for the party to be escorted out. I don't think this has anything to do with the 4PM entry with a ticket.

[Tinkerfreak]

OK guys I am confused (I know you are all shocked):D but is the op talking about not letting party ticketholders in until 7 or making sure all non party ticket holders are out by 7?

[W24toISMdirect]

How is the conversation STILL happening? Can we please just get a ban on any reports not coming from someone who actually went to party?

This is just ridiculous.

[Briansmom]

We will be going to the party a week from tomorrow :cloud9: and are planning on arriving around 4 or 430. We do have park hoppers with our package, but we will see if they let us in at this time with our MNSSHP tickets first and let you all know when we get back the following week!

[DizneyRox]

OK guys I am confused (I know you are all shocked):D but is the op talking about not letting party ticketholders in until 7 or making sure all non party ticket holders are out by 7?
From the OP:

Disney agent said they had a meeting today about MNSSHP and were told that guests with party tickets cannot be left into the MK park until 7pm. She said the employees were told not to leave the guests in the park before 7 pm under any circumstances.
I'm not sure there should be any confusion on what they were told. But, to summarize what it appears they were told (and adding a little for clarity)

Guests with only MNSSHP tickets SHOULD NOT be let in before 7pm. To get into the park BEFORE 7pm, you will need a MYW ticket. At 7pm, they will start sweeping the park and guests without wrist bands will be escorted out of the park, you can trade your MNSSHP ticket for a wrist band.

True or not is another discussion that seems to be happening above, but this appears to be what was told to the OP on the phone. Or at least that's what they attempted to tell them.

[MickeysBestPal]

This info has been given out by certain Cast Members at the Call Centers for months.
It has been proven incorrect.
This happens every year.
The CMs on the phone have no idea of actual park operations.
I really think that there is a concerted effort by some of these CMs
to just stir things up for the guests on the phone.

[DizneyRox]

This info has been given out by certain Cast Members at the Call Centers for months.
It has been proven incorrect.
This happens every year.
The CMs on the phone have no idea of actual park operations.
I really think that there is a concerted effort by some of these CMs
to just stir things up for the guests on the phone.
I'm not positive, but I don't the call center is anywhere near WDW. For some reason I'm thinking Tampa maybe? It doesn't surprise me when the CMs on the phone don't know much about what's going on.

On the other hand Disney is actively trying to increase profits, and if this means selling a few more MYW tickets, then I wouldn't be surprised to see them try. But when your making minimum wage and facing an angry mob outside the gates, anything can happen.

[VWL Mom]

And really, how many people get tickets for the party only?? I'd guess less than 10 %. The vast majority are on hoppers and staying at the parks.

I agree

[TheDuckRocks]

You can't trick or treat or get access to the characters or ride the rides without the band, thus the reason for it. Can they see the parade and the fireworks? Yes but what's the big deal. I'm surely not going to sweat it. :drama:

I for one am sure hopeing Disney has a better method of getting non-ticketed people out of the park this year. We attended MVMCP last year and saw hundreds (and I'm not over stateing the number here) of people at MK without wristbands still in there until after the fireworks. Other than the fact that I don't like to see cheaters getting by with it, those of us who paid for the parades and fireworks found it near to impossible to find any kind of viewing location.


I'm not positive, but I don't the call center is anywhere near WDW. For some reason I'm thinking Tampa maybe? It doesn't surprise me when the CMs on the phone don't know much about what's going on.

I agree with not thinking the call center is not in Orlando because of remarks made by CMs while I've been on the phone with them. I have repeatedly had different ones say to me, "the last time I went down to WDW we stayed at POR, etc." or "whenever I plan a trip down I do ...." Which leads me to think they are not actually very close to WDW. Next time I call, I'll be sure to ask.

[brivers222]

All they are doing is instructing people on the phone or wherever they are buying tickets to arrive at 7pm and no earlier... They are just stating the terms and conditions of the ticket (which the ticket says right on it)

Similar to everytime i turn on my garmin it says please do not operate while vehicle is in motion.... How many really follow that.

They are just CYOA so if something does happen they told you that you cant get in until 7... everything that happened outside of that was not because of their error



with that said... disney will be closed from oct 9th - oct 18th for refurbishment... please stay home :D

[JoDisney]

I wanted to let you know what the Disney representative said to me. I have annual passes and MNSSHP tickets so entry time does not apply. However, I got 2 more tickets for people that do not have annual passes and are just going to the Halloween party. The Disney rep. offered to me that they just came out of a meeting with Disney. She said Halloween party guests with only party tickets will not be let in until 7 pm. My response was the ticket holders would be getting to MK area about 5 pm. I continued to say the gate at MK would be a panic at 7 pm. She said Disney will have it under control. I just will be in the park and will meet up with our friends. They know the situation and said they understand. These two friends are so very patient. If they let them in a bit early that is fine. If that is not the case, we will use the cell phone to meet them in the park. It will be interesting to see the outcome.

[sacandjac]

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Hi,
Just got back from WDW. We were at the MNSSHP on the 14th and we were allowed entry at 4pm. We checked with the concierge desk at POR and also guest relations at MK - both stated 4pm entry.

Had a great time . Hope many of my fellow intercot members will be going to the party. It was a lot of fun.

Kari
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Someone else posted this under another thread. Guess we will not know for sure until we go ourselves, which we are in three days! WOO!HOO!!

[JoDisney]

Thank you for telling your experience. Glad it worked out.

[r4kids]

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Hi,
Just got back from WDW. We were at the MNSSHP on the 14th and we were allowed entry at 4pm. We checked with the concierge desk at POR and also guest relations at MK - both stated 4pm entry.

Had a great time . Hope many of my fellow intercot members will be going to the party. It was a lot of fun.

Kari
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Someone else posted this under another thread. Guess we will not know for sure until we go ourselves, which we are in three days! WOO!HOO!!



Thank you so much!!!

[SoaringEpcot]

I bought tickets yesterday and was told by concierge we could get in at 4pm.

We went to the park around 3:45 and CMs were sending all party guest to the right entry. At 4pm they opened the gates and began letting guest in, and giving out wrist bands.

The park was busy but most rides were walk on even at that time.

We did see quite a few people after 7pm that did not have on wrist bands. The only place they seemed to be checking for them were for the candy lines.

[frakers]

I've done the parties before so this is just a silly comment. I know folks will hit me for it....

I'm not paying for the MVMCP when we go in November. I'm not happy that the parks close early just to allow Disney to make even more money while shortening my experience but I deal with it, although I've never been happy my ticket is devalued by the hard ticket parties.
I see folks on here saying why shouldn''t they be allowed in earlier than the official start of the party, as much as 3 hours. OK, if that is allowed why am I not allowed to enjoy the park 3 hours AFTER the start of the party? Are you saying when you get in 3 hours early you are just going to sit there and enjoy the view, riding nothing? The hard ticket folks are infringing on my time and taking my place in line while still getting to enjoy the later, less crowded times that I didn't have the desire to spend an extra $150 for the family to attend. I paid for my ticket already.
You say it's not fair that folks linger in the park after 7:00? I say it's the same "not fair" to allow folks in before 7:00. I don't take your time. Don't take mine.

[joonyer]

Only the MK is affected by the parties. Just go to Epcot instead on the day of the party and you an enjoy every minute of the parks regular hours.

And remember nobody is guaranteed a certain number of hours in any Disney Park just because you buy a ticket. Disney is very fond of this disclaimer: "park operating hours and show times are subject to change without notice"

Go in the summer and peak times and MK is open from 9 am to midnight or later (15 hours), but in the off season it closes at 8 on many nights (11 hours), yet the price of admission is the same.

Life, and Disney World, too, ain't always "fair".

[Mitzie]

We are going to MNSSHP on Oct 28th...sorry too late to offer any help. 34 Days....!!!!!

[garthbarth1]

I agree with Frakers-there are two sides to it. Now we go to the party every year, and buy park hopper tickets, and so it is a non issue for us what time they let us in. BUT,if I was at the MK and NOT going to the party, and there were guests there at 4 pm that ONLY bought party tickets , which starts at 7 pm, riding the rides, getting character photos, etc...I would be irritated. Your time, that you paid for, starts at 7 pm...this is my time now, that I have paid for...until the party starts. I would not want my time taken away from me with people who are there early for an event....just the SAME as if I was at the Party, and there were guests there, riding rides, etc...that did not pay for the party and that time, and therefore making lines longer, etc for those of us who did pay. Its the same either way. We went to the party on the 18th, and didnt get there until close to 7 pm bc we were at another park. It was not chaos getting in at all. Now we were leaving the MK at 5 pm on the 14, the first day of the party. They had the MNSSHP entrance set up, were giving out the wrist bands, bags, etc... It was not an issue that day.

[DisneyPrincess21]

We are really :beat: the OP simply stated what they were told, and while I do believe the cm said this, cm's have been proven wrong time & time again. I think this thread is being taken down an unnecessary road debating what is "right & wrong" & I am surprised we are still debating this issue.

Bottom lime, the party is 7-12 midnight. If Disney is nice enough to let MNSSHP or MVMCP guest in early, it is not the party guest fault they have been let in early, and they should not have to be made to feel guilty they are getting extra time in the park. This is Disney's decision, and a smart one because it would be a complete mad house if 15,000 or however many people had to wait in line until 7.

Let's leave it at that and move on.

[Scar]

The thing that confuses me about this is... why doesn't Disney come out with an offical policy on this, and stick with it?

[Ian]

I'm not positive, but I don't the call center is anywhere near WDW. For some reason I'm thinking Tampa maybe?Unless I'm mistaking this call center for another one, it's definitely located on WDW property.

I know someone whose wife works there and I've been told it's located down the road from Ft. Wilderness, somewhat behind the Port Orleans resort area.


The thing that confuses me about this is... why doesn't Disney come out with an offical policy on this, and stick with it?You could ask that question about a million different things at Disney. I'll never understand why there are so many "unwritten rules" and loopholes in their guest policies.

I swear, they're like Major League Baseball or something!

[Melanie]

Unless I'm mistaking this call center for another one, it's definitely located on WDW property.


But there is also one located in Tampa.

[Joannelet]

The Reservation Center is located in Tampa.

[Ian]

Well since the OP used the word "agent" when describing who they were speaking to, I assume it was the Tampa center then.

I think only maybe the WDW help folks are located on property?

[CaptainSad]

I've done the parties before so this is just a silly comment. I know folks will hit me for it....

I'm not paying for the MVMCP when we go in November. I'm not happy that the parks close early just to allow Disney to make even more money while shortening my experience but I deal with it, although I've never been happy my ticket is devalued by the hard ticket parties.
I see folks on here saying why shouldn''t they be allowed in earlier than the official start of the party, as much as 3 hours. OK, if that is allowed why am I not allowed to enjoy the park 3 hours AFTER the start of the party? Are you saying when you get in 3 hours early you are just going to sit there and enjoy the view, riding nothing? The hard ticket folks are infringing on my time and taking my place in line while still getting to enjoy the later, less crowded times that I didn't have the desire to spend an extra $150 for the family to attend. I paid for my ticket already.
You say it's not fair that folks linger in the park after 7:00? I say it's the same "not fair" to allow folks in before 7:00. I don't take your time. Don't take mine.


Why not go the other nights that the parks are open later instead of thinking your ticket is de-valued because of a party???

[CaptainSad]

We are really :beat: the OP simply stated what they were told, and while I do believe the cm said this, cm's have been proven wrong time & time again. I think this thread is being taken down an unnecessary road debating what is "right & wrong" & I am surprised we are still debating this issue.

Bottom lime, the party is 7-12 midnight. If Disney is nice enough to let MNSSHP or MVMCP guest in early, it is not the party guest fault they have been let in early, and they should not have to be made to feel guilty they are getting extra time in the park. This is Disney's decision, and a smart one because it would be a complete mad house if 15,000 or however many people had to wait in line until 7.

Let's leave it at that and move on.


I am pretty sure they limit the tickets to one third of what is allowed during the day.. I think 15K is way to many people and I think you would notice the lines would be over an hour for almost all the rides..

[frakers]

Why not go the other nights that the parks are open later instead of thinking your ticket is de-valued because of a party???

Because I don't want to. Why should I have to? Because you say I should? You're assuming I'm there for "X" number of nights.

[SelfmadeWade]

So there seem to be two issues here:

1) Regular day guests stay in the park past 7pm (and shop or eat) but they cannot do the attractions because they have no wrist bands.

and

2) The Hard Ticket guests get to come in early at 4pm even though they're paying for a ticket that starts at 7pm.

Disney seems to have no problem with either-and the big complaint seems to be the extra people at the attractions in both scenarios.

So I think Disney should keep everything the same, but make one simple rule: Like you see in many bars, the wristbands should be paper and non-removable unless they're cut off. Hard ticket guests will get one put on their wrist when they enter at 4pm. Then: No guest with a wristband may do an attraction before 7pm and no guest without a wrsitband may do an attraction after 7pm.

This way both overlap groups could be in the park together doing what Disney wants (which is shopping and eating), but the attractions remain available only to those who have paid for the corresponding ticket.

Probably even better would be a visible handstamp. If you're stamped, you can't ride before 7pm. And if you're not stamped, you can't ride after 7pm.

[Renfairwedding]

I decided to make calls short of talking to Mickey as I was worried about my 7:30 ADR and not allowing early entry.

I was told yes on early entry. This helps in the smooth transfer from regular day operations to the Halloween event.

My thoughts are the parks hold only so many people and at any time of the day that park for any reason may or may not be at capacity.

Lots of people are leaving as the party crowed is arriving. I never saw a problem a don't think it is a problem.


Oh an Donald says hello! :donald:

[faline]

So I think Disney should keep everything the same, but make one simple rule: Like you see in many bars, the wristbands should be paper and non-removable unless they're cut off. Hard ticket guests will get one put on their wrist when they enter at 4pm. Then: No guest with a wristband may do an attraction before 7pm and no guest without a wrsitband may do an attraction after 7pm.

This way both overlap groups could be in the park together doing what Disney wants (which is shopping and eating), but the attractions remain available only to those who have paid for the corresponding ticket.

How would you handle someone who has a right to be in the park before the party but also has party tickets and enters around 4 p.m.? For example, I've had annual passes which would allow me into the park during regular park hours. However, I've entered the Magic Kingdom around 4 or so and, instead of using my annual pass, I've used my party ticket and gotten a wristband. This was mostly done for my convenience - so I wouldn't have to worry about getting a wrist band later.

[joonyer]

That's a valid point faline. We have used our MYW passes to enter MK in the morning on party days AND having also purchased a MNSSHP ticket, stayed in the park ALL DAY and then got our wristbands to stay through the party sometime after 4 pm.

I think people who think they have some sort of "exclusive right" to use of the park or its attractions from 4 til 7 that has been violated because the party ticket holders can come in before the actual party starts are misguided. That's Disney's policy to allow party guests into the park at 4pm, and always has been, so there is no "right" to exclusive use of any attractions after 4. After 7, it is a different story because Disney chooses to make it a special hard-ticket event. Theme park passes do not guarantee you any kind of limited numbers of park guests on any day of the year, or give you any "rights" Disney can let any number of paying guests (up to the safety code maximum) in the parks anytime they want to. If someone doesn't think its fair, then they should write a complaint letter to Disney, or just don't go to MK on a party day if they don't like it. Life is too short too worry about somebody maybe making your waiting line a little teeny bit longer during a WDW vacation. I say, get over it.

[SelfmadeWade]

How would you handle someone who has a right to be in the park before the party but also has party tickets and enters around 4 p.m.? For example, I've had annual passes which would allow me into the park during regular park hours. However, I've entered the Magic Kingdom around 4 or so and, instead of using my annual pass, I've used my party ticket and gotten a wristband. This was mostly done for my convenience - so I wouldn't have to worry about getting a wrist band later.

It's the same situation as the way it works now. If someone is at the park all day on their annual pass, at some point they will have to go somewhere in the park to get their wristband so that they can access the attractions after 7pm.

[faline]

It's the same situation as the way it works now. If someone is at the park all day on their annual pass, at some point they will have to go somewhere in the park to get their wristband so that they can access the attractions after 7pm.

But, that means at some point you can't access the rides. If you do that before 7, you can't can't access the rides until after 7 even though you have a valid ticket for pre-7 p.m.. If you wait until 7 to do that, you miss part of the party while hunting down a wristband and can't access attractions until you get it even though you have a valid post-7 p.m. ticket. Why would that be fair? Especially when I have tickets that allow me access on both sides of the clock turning 7 p.m.?

[disneydad153]

We have been 3 times so far and are going again this Oct 31st. Everytime we were there during the day and then went to the pavillion area by Tomorrow land around 4-5pm and received our wristbands. We continued on about out fun until the start of halloween party at 7pm. There was no issue in doing this I thought it to be pretty easy. Not sure what all the concern is for those that have the MNSSHP tickets.:confused:

[SelfmadeWade]

But, that means at some point you can't access the rides. If you do that before 7, you can't can't access the rides until after 7 even though you have a valid ticket for pre-7 p.m.. If you wait until 7 to do that, you miss part of the party while hunting down a wristband and can't access attractions until you get it even though you have a valid post-7 p.m. ticket. Why would that be fair? Especially when I have tickets that allow me access on both sides of the clock turning 7 p.m.?


We have been 3 times so far and are going again this Oct 31st. Everytime we were there during the day and then went to the pavillion area by Tomorrow land around 4-5pm and received our wristbands. We continued on about out fun until the start of halloween party at 7pm. There was no issue in doing this I thought it to be pretty easy. Not sure what all the concern is for those that have the MNSSHP tickets.:confused:

Sorry Faline, I mean no disrespect, but just as it works today, at some point people would need to take a few minutess ( say at 6:45pm) to get their wristbands from someplace in the park, and then they could continue on into the evening.

As Disneydad points out, to do this at the pavillion near Tomorrwland is easy with no issue. My opinion is that it would work much better than clearing the park and making hundreds of people go stand in line in front of the turnstiles waiting for a 7pm entry time.

[faline]

Sorry Faline, I mean no disrespect, but just as it works today, at some point people would need to take a few minutess ( say at 6:45pm) to get their wristbands from someplace in the park, and then they could continue on into the evening.

As Disneydad points out, to do this at the pavillion near Tomorrwland is easy with no issue. My opinion is that it would work much better than clearing the park and making hundreds of people go stand in line in front of the turnstiles waiting for a 7pm entry time.

I'm playing a bit of a devil's advocate here but I don't see this as a better system. If all partygoers have to go retrieve a wristband around 6:45, it just moves the crush of people from one location to the other. As the system currently works, people who are attending the party receive their wristbands as they enter the park and this process is spread over approximately 3 or more hours. I see this as a better process than the solution that was put forth here (i.e. preventing folks with wristbands from accessing the attractions once in the park).

[SelfmadeWade]

I'm playing a bit of a devil's advocate here but I don't see this as a better system. If all partygoers have to go retrieve a wristband around 6:45, it just moves the crush of people from one location to the other. As the system currently works, people who are attending the party receive their wristbands as they enter the park and this process is spread over approximately 3 or more hours. I see this as a better process than the solution that was put forth here (i.e. preventing folks with wristbands from accessing the attractions once in the park).

But it would not be ALL partygoers retrieving their wristbands at 6:45pm, it would just be the ones who are already in the park as day guests and hold an evening ticket as well.

The majority of evening hard ticket holders would be getting theirs between 4pm and 7pm as they enter the park - thus actually avoiding a crush. The 6:45pm scenario is just for those who have been in the park all day already and would be getting their wristbands from the Tomorrowland pavillion (or other pick-up spots if Disney would create them.)

[mom2mickeyfan]

How about different colored wristbands?

red - ride all day
blue - after 7 p.m.
yellow - up until 7 p.m.

Let me mention...I've never been to one of the hard ticket events as we always go during the summer but I can see both sides. Seems like the problem isn't people that have tickets for both and allowed to be there all day but people that either have a day ticket or a ticket to the party. If there were different colors and you had a day ticket and a party ticket then you could just get your wristband whenever you enter the park and not have to worry about checking in again at 4:00, 5:00, 6:00 or 7:00. There would also be less concern about when party goers get in because they couldn't ride until 7:00 but could still be allowed to shop and eat until the party starts.

[faline]

How about different colored wristbands?

red - ride all day
blue - after 7 p.m.
yellow - up until 7 p.m.

This is the sort of system that would work.

[SelfmadeWade]

How about different colored wristbands?

red - ride all day
blue - after 7 p.m.
yellow - up until 7 p.m.

Let me mention...I've never been to one of the hard ticket events as we always go during the summer but I can see both sides. Seems like the problem isn't people that have tickets for both and allowed to be there all day but people that either have a day ticket or a ticket to the party. If there were different colors and you had a day ticket and a party ticket then you could just get your wristband whenever you enter the park and not have to worry about checking in again at 4:00, 5:00, 6:00 or 7:00. There would also be less concern about when party goers get in because they couldn't ride until 7:00 but could still be allowed to shop and eat until the party starts.

I agree with mom2mickeyfan. The larger issue is how to handle the majority of people in the park - those who have day tickets only and those who have night tickets only. The people who have both tickets is a much smaller group.

[faline]

I agree with mom2mickeyfan. The larger issue is how to handle the majority of people in the park - those who have day tickets only and those who have night tickets only. The people who have both tickets is a much smaller group.

I have no way of knowing what the numbers are but I'm not sure this is true. There are a group of folks who are annual passholders so, obviously have day tickets; another group have park hoppers so, even if they went to another park they day, they still have the right to enter the Magic Kingdom during regular hours; and another group have passes that they used to enter the park during regular hours. The only two groups that wouldn't be able to enter during regular hours are those who did not use a park ticket at all that day and those who don't have park hoppers and spent the day at another park.

[SelfmadeWade]

It stands to reason that if the majority of people attending were guests who had both a day ticket and a night ticket, then Disney would just make the party part of any daily admission and avoid the whole mess.

Obviously they are making money off those who come only for the night party and thus put themselves (and us!) through all of these strategies and theories as to how to do it best!:scratch:

[CaptainSad]

Because I don't want to. Why should I have to? Because you say I should? You're assuming I'm there for "X" number of nights.

You do know there are 3 other parks you can go to after 7 don't you? We schedule are days in advance. If the MK closes early anytime during our stay we hit one of the others. They have been holding these parties for some time now. I can't help it if you don't plan your trips in advance. WDW doesn't know you will be down for day that they have them. These are planned months in advance and are posted for everybody to see.

[SoaringEpcot]

It is just a logistical problem, you can't have 50,000 people leaving MK at 7:00 pm while 15,000 are coming in. That just would never work with the current transportation system or any system for that matter.

If anyone knows their logistics it is Disney. And I think their system is working pretty good.

[brivers222]

How do ball parks do it when you don't have tickets to both games of a double header?

[joonyer]

How do ball parks do it when you don't have tickets to both games of a double header?

Double-headers are a 2 for 1 deal. If you have tickets to one game you get to see both. They don't sell separate tickets for each game. (Cause it would be way too difficult to clear the park and re-fill it in the half hour or so between games). They're like the old-fashioned double features at the drive-in.

[MIKESMOM]

I am in WDW right now. My DD & I attended MNSSHP on Sept. 28th. We were allowed to enter the park at 4. At 7 CM's started checking wrist bands & were asking non party guest to exit the park. If you didn't have a wristbands you were not allowed to continue into any of the lands. :mickey:

[Scar]

Double-headers are a 2 for 1 deal. If you have tickets to one game you get to see both. They don't sell separate tickets for each game. (Cause it would be way too difficult to clear the park and re-fill it in the half hour or so between games). They're like the old-fashioned double features at the drive-in.In Major Leauge Baseball, those types of double headers are rare these days. The majority (like almost all) are "day/night" double headers. One game at 1:00 and the second at 7:00 (or so.) This gives several hours to clear out the stadium, and security does ask people to leave. It's done this way so they won't lose a games revenue from a rain out. I miss the old days of scheduled 1 ticket double headers.

[Scar]

I am in WDW right now. My DD & I attended MNSSHP on Sept. 28th. We were allowed to enter the park at 4. At 7 CM's started checking wrist bands & were asking non party guest to exit the park. If you didn't have a wristbands you were not allowed to continue into any of the lands. :mickey:
This sounds like the best solution. Why Disney can't do this on a consistent basis is beyond me.

[MickeysBestPal]

This sounds like the best solution. Why Disney can't do this on a consistent basis is beyond me.

AFAIK, this is the standard operating procedure and what the CM's do, and have been doing, for every hard ticket party for years, now.