Will WDW ever make a new theme park???? [Archive]

bertasso59

08-13-2008, 06:29 PM

I think 4 parks is enough(maybe even too many).I would rather they spend time and money expanding the parks where they can,more lands in EPCOT(maybe Australlia,India,Egypt)more to AK(like the long ago planned Beastlie Kingdom).That way there are more attractions to spread out the crowds withen each park. I wouldnt mind a whole new Disney complex,maybe in Texas.

MickeyMousse

08-13-2008, 06:33 PM

Always thought that a marine world themed park would be fun! But I would also like to see World Showcase expanded with some new conutries added.....can't I have both???:wave:

gerald72

08-13-2008, 07:45 PM

Why would they want to build a fifth theme park? People are already spending thier full week's vacation at WDW.
If they built a fifth theme park, people would just be asking when is the sixth theme park being built.

crazeedizneefinatic

08-13-2008, 07:58 PM

EditReject

08-13-2008, 09:49 PM

Disney had inquired about a possible Americana/Liberty Square/Main St type of park up my way around the Philly area a while back but it never materialized. The people in the area were really put off by the idea and it was a pretty hot news story too. One downfall is that it would have just been a seasonal park. That being said, I would not mind seeing another park along those lines in WDW. Only 1/3 of the land they own is developed and another 1/3 is set aside for conservation which leaves quite a bit left for whatever they dream up next. Although, I am perfectly happy with the four parks there now and would rather see Disney improve and grow what they already have. I always get excited when I hear of the new resorts/attraction/projects going on down there.

Mousemates

08-13-2008, 10:02 PM

Disney had inquired about a possible Americana/Liberty Square/Main St type of park up my way around the Philly area a while back but it never materialized. The people in the area were really put off by the idea and it was a pretty hot news story too.

They did the same thing in the Williamsburg, Va area at one time with the same result..(our tour guide was very happy to report that the community rejected the idea and did not want American/Virginian history to be "Disneyized")..but if Disney were to buy the Busch properties (which includes Busch gardens Europe)...they would have a foot in the door in that area for a Colonial styled park...I don't really think its got a snowballs chance in Hades of happening...but this is a purely speculative thread.

eeyorefanatic12

08-13-2008, 10:06 PM

i was on the bus going to one of the parks and the bus driver said that they were either going to make a pixar themed park or a black and white park(like for steamboat willie). who knows if what she was talking about is true but i think both of those ideas sound kinda lame.
because one...little kids wouldn't know any of the characters back when steamboat willie was made so they mite lose sum business there. and...two i don't think they should make a pixar themed park because they already have alot of pixar things in Hollywood Studios and people won't want to go from park to park seeing the same things over and over again.
if they do make a park it should maybe be villian themed because they don't have alot of stuff based just on the villains and they do play and important part in all the classic disney movies.
:malef:

FTDW Poly 08

08-13-2008, 10:50 PM

I think that a new theme-park would be great if they have a GREAT premise for it. I'm sure it would be something off-the-wall such as some sort of virtual reality computer-type stuff.

Regarding Epcot and countries, I was actually letdown by our tour of the countries last week (our first Disney trip). It just seemed like an opportunity to spend money in shops. I talked to a number of people from those countries and they said there's really nothing overly cultural about the experience. I just didn't think my family got a lot out of it. The best part was the Norwegian boat ride.

arsenal3

08-13-2008, 11:03 PM

FTDW- When my famly wen't to WDW in June we wen't to the England pavilion and met a guy who is in the next Harry Potter and he is a Duke of England, he is a nephew of the Queen I beleive. It was real cool to meat him. I went around asking prolly about 15 other CM there and they all confirmed it. Personally I think seeing the buidlings is the only other cool part of the countries, they really need to be re-done.

As far as other themes go I was thinking it would be cool to have a Past type of theme park, kinda like how epcot is based on the future they could have one based on the past. They could have diffrent rides that show historicaly important events and then they could have ,kinda like the countries in EPCOT, big cities from past times, like: a mini rome, Athens, Sparta, Hong Kong, old time London, an early U.S. colony, something with the Incas, Aztecs, or Myans, you know those kind of things. Granted it would be hard to make these things into Disney orintated rides and what not, but it would really be the same idea as EPCOT only instead of the future it would be the past.

Another theme may be a sports theme park.

I do kinda like the pixar idea, but with that I think that they would need to take out all the other pixar things and put them in one theme park.

As far as the black and white theme park, I dont think that there is enough to have one of those types of parks, that one would be real hard to make.

CaptainJessicaSparrow

08-14-2008, 12:25 AM

I hope not. Really. I'd hate to see Disney open another park.

You guys complain of not having good CM's now? Imagine having to find ANOTHER 10,000+ CM's to operate, maintain, and control the park. Yeah, it'd be near impossible, especially since Disney isn't competitive at all when it comes to pay.

Nope, I'm one of those people who believe 1000% that Disney should never open another park here in Florida. Expand the parks now, refurbish a lot of the attractions that need lovin', update some rides, add new ones. But not another park.

ParkMan

08-14-2008, 01:12 AM

I have to agree.

I'm in favor of expanding the existing parks. There's so much potential in the existing parks that has yet to be realized.

Epcot - many great science & engineering themes. a lot of countries that could be added.
DHS - so many movie & entertainment ideas
AK - they've only scratched the surface on animal themes.
MK - well, the skies the limit there!

PittFan

08-14-2008, 01:34 AM

arsenal3

08-14-2008, 02:02 AM

^^^^
I thought about the themed hotels as well. That would be a great idea. Each one connected to the countries. The only thing is taht each one would have to have there own entrance maybe in the back of the country, witch they could make it blend in and look real cool. I think that would be a great idea.

I also would like to see more rides and alot of refurbishment to current rides. Alot of them need attention. There are so many ideas for each park. FOr instance how cool would it be to see a Greece pavilion of Autralia pavilion over the water right as you enter the world showcase in Epcot. That would be awsome.

goofy-4-disney

08-14-2008, 02:40 AM

For this reply I'm just strictly thinking as a Disney executive (not that I'll ever be that lucky) but I really don't see the need to add another park. If they add another park, the price for the nightly resort stays would have to be raised along with the hopper tickets. So I'm all for either refurbishing the existing parks or adding new themed resorts. I like the idea of resorts themed after countries represented in EPCOT, i think the skys the limit with that. Either way, I'll always try to get to WDW as often as possible.

Fantasmic

08-14-2008, 06:20 AM

FTDW- When my famly wen't to WDW in June we wen't to the England pavilion and met a guy who is in the next Harry Potter and he is a Duke of England, he is a nephew of the Queen I beleive. It was real cool to meat him.

I'm really sorry, but I think this person was joking with you, there is no royalty in the next Harry Potter film, I've searched the net, and also if there were, it would have been all over the british tabloids.
We don't have "Duke of England" here, Duke's, in England are Duke of Counties/Cities such as the "Duke of Devonshire" or the "Duke of Birmingham"
Also, the queen only has 1 nephew... Highly unlikey that he would be in the new HP film.

(It's the United Kingdom Pavillion too, not the Enlgand pavillion)

Wickster1970

08-14-2008, 08:24 AM

Instead of adding more parks, WDW needs to tweak what they already have.

I would love to see a refresh of EPCOT and, of course, add more countries to the World Showcase. I like Arsenal’s idea of creating themed hotels linked to some of the countries. I can already see an England resort including Medieval Times like shows and such.

The Studios could easily be doubled in size. Look down the road at Universal and what they have done.

Any additions to Animal Kingdom would have to be on a Sea World slant.

The Magic Kingdom would need the least tweaking IMHO. It could become something like a Disney Classic park.

Daddy Mouse

08-14-2008, 09:59 AM

A new park, maybe after AK, EPCOT, and DHS are more complete. AK has great potential but isn't nearly finished. DHS needs to be more complete. EPCOT needs to add more countries (new continent with Russia, Australia, Polynesia, India, Greece, Egypt, Brazil, or Argentina)
Then there would be no need for a 5th park.

TheRustyScupper

08-14-2008, 10:00 AM

1) I just do not see it in the works.
2) Sure, they might add a themed area.
3) But, I do not see a huge new park
4) Regardless of expense, they just wouldn't draw more people.
5) A few, but not many.
6) The park would just cannibalize guests from the other parks.
7) Plus, Disney has a terrible reputation for new parks. Just look at
. . . Disney California Adventure
. . . Disney Paris
. . . Disney Studios Paris
. . . Disney Hong Kong
. . . Disney Animal Kingdom
. . . Disney MGM Studios
8) None were big or finished enough - just pitiful !

NOTE: Besides the above reasons, the new casino will pull some people from WDW. The bull dozers are already doing the ground work for the new Seminole Indians (Hard Rock) casino just 3-5 minutes from the entrance to Epcot. By the way, Disney people are furious! Imagine new ad slogan, "Come to Disney for the kids and gamble for the adults". Not only do they get the locals, but also the vacation and convention people. What a coup!

arsenal3

08-14-2008, 10:14 AM

Fantasmic- I know there arnt dukes of England, but I can't remeber what city he said spacificly. Also he was a Lord not a Duke, sorry for the mix up. I donno he showed his credit card and it did say Lord. I forget his name right now but I got his autograph and I'll post in a little bit when I get back from work. BUt he may not have been a nephew but a cousin I'm not positive on all the facts as of now, it has been almost 3 months lol. O'well if he was though. haha...

Imagineer1981

08-14-2008, 01:10 PM

While I agree that the current parks should be expanded and refurb, thats what Disney always does, the parks are always in a stage of change to keep them fresh, but eventually a new park will be needed to draw more to the area. Walt bought all of that land to "hold all of the ideas they could think of", and I'd hate to see all that land used for just more resorts and golf courses.

disneyworld55925592

08-14-2008, 02:44 PM

I would love to seea new park. But I would also like to see the countries in EPCOT re-done and myabe ad a couple more countries.

i second this i would love to see some new countries in epcot! There is some space inbetween a few they could fit at least two more :mickey:

Imagineer1981

08-14-2008, 02:50 PM

7) Plus, Disney has a terrible reputation for new parks. Just look at
. . . Disney California Adventure
. . . Disney Paris
. . . Disney Studios Paris
. . . Disney Hong Kong
. . . Disney Animal Kingdom
. . . Disney MGM Studios
8) None were big or finished enough - just pitiful !

If you recall Disneyland and Magic Kingdom also weren't big enough or finished enough in the begining. Disneyland didn't have anything paved at first and it was an even smaller version of itself now. Magic Kingdom didn't have POTC when it opened, and only later added rides like Space Mountain and Splash, etc. The parks are always evolving and growing, none have ever been "complete" when they first opened. DHS continues to grow, AK is a great park and continues to grow, and thats part of the magic and keeps the parks fresh

italiangrl.08

08-14-2008, 03:05 PM

Well i heard that Disney was interested in making Harry Potter part of the WDW family but Universal had made a better offer to the author. In terms of creative rights. You might think this was :offtopic: But i was just saying that WDW might be interested in adding on, if they were looking to add a completely new and different attraction! :mickey:

Kelci:D

MississippiDisneyFreak

08-14-2008, 03:26 PM

I think the other four parks need some refreshing before building a new park:

MK-doesn't need much, maybe a new TS restaurant
AK-a couple of more rides but don't mess up the animal's environment too much
Epcot-A couple more countries in WS
HS-the park that needs the most updating IMHO...Toy Story Mania helps, add a couple more nice attractions, spruce up Backlot express, add better CS choices

GrumpyFan

08-14-2008, 04:03 PM

While there are certainly enough ideas out there for a 5th park, I can't really see them building one any time soon. Management just doesn't seem too inclined to do it yet. Plus, as mentioned, with an average 5-7 day vacation, they already have more than enough attractions to capture and entertain most people for the whole time.

I think it's a possibility that they might build something high end (high dollar) in the exclusive style of Sea World's Discovery Cove in the next few years. But, I would have a hard time classifying that as a 5th park since it would be a limited capacity experience that the majority of visitors would never see.

But if I may contradict myself just a little. I do think it's inevitable that they will eventually build another park. Attendance has grown at WDW by an average annual rate of nearly 4% over the last 10 years, and that's including the steep decline that happened after 9/11. So, eventually, they will reach the point where the amount of daily visitors on property will be such that they have to do something to accommodate them. And, with the addition of at least another 25,000 rooms on-property in the next 5 years, it's going to mean sooner rather than later.

ransam

08-14-2008, 06:07 PM

i thought there were already plans for a new park? Night Kingdom.

CaptainJessicaSparrow

08-15-2008, 12:38 AM

Welcome to Intercot but here is a word of advice:

Don't believe anything you read on Jim Hill's site.

And if you do, take it with a spoonful of salt.

He is notorious for creating things and then finding excuses for why Disney didn't go through with it. Or if something is similar to something he said, he'll say oh they didn't have enough financing to do it they way they originally wanted. Basically, he's not a reliable source at all, despite how much he might try to convince others that he is.

arsenal3

08-15-2008, 03:41 AM

After reading that article, weather its true or not, it doesnt seem like that would be as great as a villian or a rollar coaster themed park, as mentioned at the end of the article.

Fantasmic

08-15-2008, 06:27 AM

And if you do, take it with a spoonful of salt.

What's that song again, "A spoonfull of Salt makes the Jim Hill Media go down" ?

I think, that with all 4 parks 2 water parks AND Universal/Busch/SeaWorld There is more than enough to do, (I'm looking at itineries for next may, don't normally do them) But to do everything would take the full 14 days I'd be there!

We'd have to start taking month long vacations!

I'd love to see a New E ride go into the Magic Kingdom though!

Ian

08-15-2008, 07:09 AM

I'm totally opposed to adding a new "theme park" on the scale of any of the four major parks.

First off, they can't maintain and adequately staff the four parks they have now. Adding another one would only make that task even harder.

Secondly, I don't see much return on investment for them in adding a new park. The average park stay is gonna be a week. That's all most people can manage from a vacation standpoint and there's already MORE than enough to keep you there for a week. A 5th gate (especially one as poorly built-out as AK was) isn't going to help much.

And third, and most important, they have 3 theme parks now that are in need of some dramatic TLC as it is. They need to focus on building out AK into something more than a 1/2 day park, continuing to add more quality attractions to DHS, and revitalizing Future World in Epcot.

If they do something along the lines of a 5th park, look for something more like Discovery Cove only better. They'll do a small, high-entrance fee park that basically generates enough revenue on its own to handle the maintenance and staffing issues.

Ian

08-15-2008, 07:13 AM

A reminder that links to external websites are not permitted in posts, per INTERCOT's Terms of Service.

Also, Jim Hill has already backtracked off that ridiculous Night Kingdom story, so you can forget about that ever coming to fruition.

Polynesian Dweller

08-15-2008, 09:43 AM

You guys complain of not having good CM's now? Imagine having to find ANOTHER 10,000+ CM's to operate, maintain, and control the park. Yeah, it'd be near impossible

After reading through this thread I came back to this post as perhaps the most cogent comment. Disney, and all the others, can't build a park if they can't staff it adequately. And 10000+ is an amazing figure (not disputing it at all just impressed at how staff intensive a theme park is). On that basis alone I wouldn't want a new park, a poorly run park is worse than none.

As some other posts have pointed out, it might be more appropriate to do a smaller very specific park on the scale of Discovery Cove. And no I don't think it should be American heritage themed. Don't get me wrong, I admire American's love for their country and patriotism (I wish sometimes that my fellow Canadians had a bit more of that for our country) but Disney gets a lot of its revenue from international customers and has to do parks with a broad appeal at WDW. Disney could do that kind of park in a place like Philly or Williamsburg where people (even internationals) go specifically to see that history but that isn't the main focus of WDW vacation.

GeminiAngel

08-15-2008, 09:47 AM

I would like to see something like a bowling alley added, with midnight bowling and rock and bowl.

"Goofy Lanes":D

TheRustyScupper

08-15-2008, 10:16 AM

Don't believe anything you read on Jim Hill's site.
And if you do, take it with a spoonful of salt.

1) I am not so sure of this.
2) He gets a lot of his rumors from well informed sources.
3) In fact, his sources are some of the best at WDW.
4) He listens to the bus drivers.

tinklover

08-15-2008, 10:27 AM

I would like to see something like a bowling alley added, with midnight bowling and rock and bowl.

"Goofy Lanes":D

they are adding 100 lanes to world of sports. My DBF is exstatic about this , he loves to bowl and it is near our home resort pop century :D

Ian

08-15-2008, 10:29 AM

If you recall Disneyland and Magic Kingdom also weren't big enough or finished enough in the begining. Disneyland didn't have anything paved at first and it was an even smaller version of itself now.I see a distinct difference, though, between the way DL and MK opened and the way some of the more recent parks opened.

First off, it's not true that DL "didn't have anything paved at first." It's true that the tarmac had just been laid right before opening day and was very soft and sticky in the hot CA sun (it's rumored that it pulled shoes off people's feet), but that isn't nearly the same as "not being paved" nor is it in any way the same as opening with too few attractions.

And yeah, MK added attractions after they opened, but they had plenty from the git-go. They just added even more. HKDL opened with just nine attractions. That's something totally different.

I would like to see something like a bowling alley added, with midnight bowling and rock and bowl.

"Goofy Lanes":DDisney just added a 100 lane alley at Wide World of Sports.

Congrats. You got your wish.

azcavalier

08-15-2008, 10:41 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing another park. They've only developed 1/3 of the land they own (another 1/3 is supposedly set aside as a nature preserve to never be developed). So, if all the resorts, Downtown Disney, four parks, two water parks, Wide World of Sports, etc, is only 1/3 of what they have....WOW. That's a lot of land. Especially as they build more hotels/resort areas. The more resorts they add, they will get filled. So that's more people in the existing parks. Another park would thin that crowd out some. Of course, I understand JessicaSparrow when she asks how they would staff something like that. I've no idea.

However, I've also read that it take TEN years for them to get the park from the drawing board to up and running. So if one isn't already in the works, I don't think that there's much to worry about. If they haven't already started, it would be at least 2018 (ish) before it would open. And if there WERE something on the drawing board (like a Pirate Themed park maybe?) I think that it would have leaked.

In any case, I'd also love to see them add some more countries to Epcot, but where would they put them? They'd have to create another showcase area, wouldn't they? I think that the best thing to do would be to expand AK by adding a South America section. Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Peru, etc have a lot to offer. Heck, the amazon has more animal species in it then just about anywhere in the world. Plus i'd love a real Brazilian Steak House....mmmm....THIS would also be where you could put stuff from the very underrated The Emperor's New Groove. I'd give my two left lug nuts to meet Kronk.

azcavalier

08-15-2008, 10:47 AM

I personally would not be interested in a new park. They built Animal Kingdom and for us it's a big let down. We only spend 1 day there at best out of 8 and we are happy with that. Yes, there are some great things there but nothing I would want to go back for. No offense to those who enjoy AK. I could not imagine what the parks theme would be? Don't know if we would have enough time to do another park. We concentrate on 3 and can do it in 8 days comfortably. Anything more and I would need a vacation from our vacation, LOL!

Like others have said I would love to see more countries in Epcot! That would be awesome!

No offense taken. It's probably my least favorite of the parks as well, but next time you go, take a minute to think about the engineering that went on in that park. You might not like the attractions, or think that it's lacking something, but I think that it's the most awesome of the four parks when it comes to what was put into it. I mean, the Tree of Life itself is quite possibly the coolest bit of imagineering at any of the parks. It's huge, intricate, and really, really, cool. Now, it would be cooler if you could "climb" it like the Swiss Family Robinson (or Tarzan's) treehouse.

Also remember that all the stuff in the Oasis (the part after the front gates, before you get to the park) and along the park paths were all planted and designed to feed the permanent "cast members" as well. This thing is as close to Jurassic Park as we can get. It's a zoo that has all the problems of a theme park. And every day the cast members are eating the sets! Plus, it's designed so that the sets can grow, so it will change over time. Stuff will die, new stuff added, etc, etc.

It's just a different experience than the other parks. Next time any of you are there, slow down, look around, and think about what actually went into this park.

GrumpyFan

08-15-2008, 12:28 PM

In any case, I'd also love to see them add some more countries to Epcot, but where would they put them? They'd have to create another showcase area, wouldn't they?

Actually, if you look at aerial views of Epcot World Showcase, there are several areas where they could add new countries. Between France and Morocco, Morocco and Japan, Japan and US, a really big spot where the Outpost currently is, also between Norway and Mexico. There are a few others too, but these are the major ones. So, they have room. Plus, there are large empty buildings behind Japan and Germany that were originally meant to house rides, but they were never built. According to other sources, they are mainly used for storage now.

I think that the best thing to do would be to expand AK by adding a South America section. Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Peru, etc have a lot to offer. Heck, the amazon has more animal species in it then just about anywhere in the world. Plus i'd love a real Brazilian Steak House....mmmm....THIS would also be where you could put stuff from the very underrated The Emperor's New Groove. I'd give my two left lug nuts to meet Kronk.
Some very good ideas! I especially like the Brazillian Steak house idea!

bruin1344

08-15-2008, 01:05 PM

no fifth park, all 4 parks could use more attractions especially AK and maybe DHS

AK is only a one half day visit on a week long vacation for me, they need more rides

ransam

08-15-2008, 01:36 PM

i have no idea who Jim is, and have no idea about his reputation. But i have heard the Night Kingdom story from numerous people. in fact there was a whole ipod story related to it.
I don't think it's that far fetched though. I would think Disney would love to tap in to the market that Sea World has w/ discovery cove. Also in the article it says the entrance would be close to where pleasure island is. since PI is closing soon and redsigning, maybe part of the reason it's closing is to get ready for night kingdom?

Villains0501

08-15-2008, 01:56 PM

I think a villains park would be cool for some but not for others, obviously. I think a new villains land should be added to magic kingdom. I also think they should add an area at MGM that focuses on Villains and heroes throughout movie history not just disney it could be behind GMR. just a thought. it could be more embellished

arsenal3

08-15-2008, 03:09 PM

Azcavalier- I like your ideas as well aout the AK. Those would be cool to see.

As far as the places to put new countries. The first one that stands out is were that outpost is, they should get rid of that and put Brazil or Argentina there. Then on both sides right as you enter the showcase plaza they could put Greece on one side and Australia on the other, on the ends right as you enter Mexico and Canada. Just think about those two countries over the water. That would be awsome. On top of that you could prolly put one or two on the showcase plaza. They would need to make it a bit bigger but on the walk way in between the UK and France they could put a country.

I think there is plenty of room to add more countries, I think the bigger question is witch countries to add. I personally would like to see (in no particular order) Greece, Brazil, Australia, Spain, Argentina, Russia, Egypt, Chile, Dominican Republic, and Sweded.

MichaelMouse

08-15-2008, 06:48 PM

Well, for one Walt purchased soo much land for future generations to grow into. A luxury Disneyland in Cali lacks...LAND. Walt Disney World then started building many hotels to attract guests to stay on their property. Also, by catergorizing certain resorts by Value, Moderate, Luxury, and Home away from home attracted many different budgets. It isonly what Walt would want...use the land, Just don't cramp it. One more park should be ok, Anything more then that might be too much, maybe not. The big question: What would be the theme?? How could they make it as classy as the other parks, but with different twists and feels? BIG thrill rides is a start but please keep away from what America is use to....Six Flags, Busch Gardens, etc... Imagine BIG THRILL RIDES but with themes like Monsters Inc or Pooh. That would be an experience....DISNEY should definitely move on :mickey:this.......Strictly BIG thrill rides with a Main Street, just not MAIN Street USA......

CaptainJessicaSparrow

08-17-2008, 03:02 AM

Actually, if you look at aerial views of Epcot World Showcase, there are several areas where they could add new countries. Between France and Morocco, Morocco and Japan, Japan and US, a really big spot where the Outpost currently is, also between Norway and Mexico. There are a few others too, but these are the major ones. So, they have room. Plus, there are large empty buildings behind Japan and Germany that were originally meant to house rides, but they were never built. According to other sources, they are mainly used for storage now.

No, there really isn't enough room.

I'll explain. You'd have to have space between the countries. If you tried to put something between US and Japan, it would be on top of both pavilions, and it would so cramped in there that no one would want to go in. France and Morocco do have more room, but again, it would be on top of each other.

The buildings behind Japan and other countries house the vehicles that were used for the morning ceremonies, the huts for Food and Wine, some buildings are meeting space, catering rooms, etc.

Behind Outpost, is the old Millenium Village, which is used for private events and parties.

caryrae

08-17-2008, 10:54 AM

I like the way WS is now. I wouldn't want to add more between the other counties I like the space inbetween. I wouldn't want it to like a solid loop of buildings.

azcavalier

08-17-2008, 01:31 PM

Seasonscraps

08-17-2008, 03:54 PM

I would like to see a marine world type park.

I think that the best thing to do would be to expand AK by adding a South America section. Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Peru, etc have a lot to offer. Heck, the amazon has more animal species in it then just about anywhere in the world. Plus i'd love a real Brazilian Steak House....mmmm....THIS would also be where you could put stuff from the very underrated The Emperor's New Groove. I'd give my two left lug nuts to meet Kronk.

I LOVE this idea!!

GrumpyFan

08-17-2008, 04:25 PM

No, there really isn't enough room.

I'll explain. You'd have to have space between the countries. If you tried to put something between US and Japan, it would be on top of both pavilions, and it would so cramped in there that no one would want to go in. France and Morocco do have more room, but again, it would be on top of each other.

Not necessarily. The imagineers could do it in such a way as to make the buildings and countries smoothly flow from one to the next. The techniques used to do this sort of thing are used extensively in MK amd other areas at WDW. Besides, the original plans called for using all of the spaces for countries. There were plans for Russia, Spain, Venezuela, United Arab Emirates, and Israel that never made it past the planning phase for various reasons. An Equatorial Africa pavilion was also planned but never built.

The buildings behind Japan and other countries house the vehicles that were used for the morning ceremonies, the huts for Food and Wine, some buildings are meeting space, catering rooms, etc.

Yes, they do now. But, originally, there were plans to use some of them for part of the attraction. It was only after the park opened, and the plans to use them never materialized that they started being used for other things. Fact is, they could still be utilized as part of the attraction, but they would have to relocate some backstage services, or build new facilities.

Behind Outpost, is the old Millenium Village, which is used for private events and parties.
Actually, Millenium Village is between Canada and the UK. And, in my opinion this attraction was very interesting when it was Millenium Village, I was sad to see it close. The outpost area is right before the bridge going to Canada from Germany and is one of the biggest spots available that could be used.

mac badger

08-18-2008, 05:16 PM

i dont think we'll see a 5th park-or should see a 5th park-for all the reasons others have stated-not enough return on investment, difficulty staffing, existing parks need more tlc first, etc.
but, i could see a new waterpark. the waterparks do bang up business, seem to require less staff and have a steady stream of local visitors as well. i think eventually TL and BB will not be enough to hold all the folks who want to go to the waterparks:mickey:

mermaidmarian

08-18-2008, 08:43 PM

I don't see the need for a 5th gate. It kind of suggests that there isn't enough already to keep people engaged and coming back year after year, and I would say that really isn't the case.

I agree with the recommendation that Disney continue to invest in maintaining, updating or adding to its existing properties. I have always been very keen on expansion of the World Showcase and I am truly stymied as to why more nations are not interested in having their own pavilions.

I am waiting patiently for Beastly Kingdom to become more than the stuff of legend. I think if they really must tie into a film (not that I think they do, but that seems to be what is currently in vogue) they could certainly incorporate Narnia into the Beastly Kingdom.

I have heard many conflicting rumors about the future of the Annheuser Busch properties. I can see why SeaWorld would be attractive to Disney, but I dont' know how it would really fit into their "everything within the World" model.

CaptainSad

08-19-2008, 08:54 AM

NO NEW PARKS!!!!! Fix and add to the 4 that WDW already have. More rides at all the parks. More countries at EPCOT. Bring back what EPCOT was meant to be. (Experimental Prototype Community Of Tomorrow). Expand DHS (more movie type rides and such) and AK (God, add anything to this and it will be a 100 times better) Everest was a good start. There is plenty of land to expand at all 4 parks. You can start by moving back all the support buildings and roads. If you look on Google Earth you can see what can be moved and where they can add. I can think of a million things that they could do and keep it with the Disney flare. I wish I could be a Disney Imagineer... I find that the Imagneer's of today have hit a wall. Dupilcating rides, knock off of shows on TV.(American Idol) Come on.. It's on TV, why do I have to sit though a show and hear the shrieks of people who think they can sing.. I'm not a rocket scientist, but I could come up with better things for the whole family.

Daisy'sMom

08-19-2008, 09:02 AM

I don't want new parks. I would love to see Disney put the money and time into overhauling some things in the parks they have. New bathrooms would be a place to start! Keeping things clean, keeping them ahead of other theme parks.

sneezyone

08-20-2008, 11:38 AM

I would like to see new hotels connecting to EPCOT themed after the countries represented there. They've done such a great job recreating each country, IMO, I think themed hotels would be awesome. :mickey:

I think you could even do this in one large hotel...set up in a wheel sort of shape with a hub in the center where the restaurants/checkin would be and then each spoke of the wheel could be a different "themed" country.